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Not to give my child Flu jab

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Binjob118 · 30/09/2023 19:55

My son is 6 and has been offered the nasal flu jab at school. He has had it the last 2 years and had no problems, but I now feel reluctant to give it to him. Does a healthy child really need this? I have to admit this change in my thinking has come about since the COVID vaccine rollout and the many vaccine injuries that seem to be being ignored by the MSM.

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KickHimInTheCrotch · 27/10/2023 09:37

My DD had the vaccine a few weeks ago and I don't know how but some of it got in her eye! She woke up with a bad cold 24 hours later. She'll still be having it next year.

bippityboppity87 · 27/10/2023 09:40

I've had the flu probably 3 times in my life time if that, but each time was horrific. My temp spiked so high I nearly ended up in hospital and I'm relatively healthy/young. I was really really poorly. I wouldn't even compare it to a bad cold. When I was in secondary school, one of my teachers DC's died from it. She was only 9. So yes, I gave my son the flu jab and I get it too every year now

bippityboppity87 · 27/10/2023 09:43

Well it's not the jab as he's only 7. The nasal one

MigGirl · 27/10/2023 09:43

I've made the opersit choice to quite a few of you on here. I get DS and myself the flu jab every year DD has had it a couple of times but hasn't ever fitted into the age group at school who have it free (she's 16). DS has server asthma and any cold he has ever had always makes him much worse.

We however only gave DD one covid jab and despite being in a venerable group DS has never had it. It took so long to offer the covid vaccine to children that DS had already had covid twice and very mildly and DD had it after her first vaccine and I sore no point in her having another vaccine as after reading all the evidence it suggested having had covid they would have a better immune response to it again and the vaccine seemed to not be worth any possible risks. Also unlike the flu the covid vaccine proved not to prevent the spread of it so seemed pointless from that point of view also.

I also didn't get that last covid vaccine I was offered for the same reasons. In fact I had quite bad coivd before any vaccine was available, but still had two vaccinations afterwards. Hoping to prevent me getting it that badly again. But after get covid a second time, I felt it wasn't worth another vaccine for me.

I'm am very surprised at the health professional who would gets covid vaccine and not flu. As from my understanding the flu vaccine is an inactive virus vaccine, this technician has been around for a long time and proven to work. (Yes they put different flu strains in it each year but it's still the same technique). Where as the coivd vaccine it totally different (in fact 3 different types) that before covid had hardly been used. So had much more unknowns for side effects.

LucyK2725 · 18/11/2023 13:15

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Nanny0gg · 18/11/2023 13:21

gemloving · 30/09/2023 20:01

Is everyone who says she's being unreasonable having the flu vaccine themselves then?

I never had the flu vaccine as an adult, nor did I have it as a child, so I wouldn't give it to mine either.

I think she's unreasonable and yes I have it.

My SiL is vulnerable and I think the fewer people poorly with something that can be prevented or lessened is a good thing.

Nanny0gg · 18/11/2023 13:24

Bingbangboo64 · 03/10/2023 05:48

All my kids are completely unvaxed, beside first she had hers up to 4th month suffering each time side effects and getting hospitalized. Never again.

Good job that hopefully they're being protected by all the children that have been vaccinated.

If you've had serious side effects then I understand your stance.

Other people - no I don't get it.

Nanny0gg · 18/11/2023 13:28

Mrsjayy · 01/10/2023 09:50

I had a family member who had a brain injury caused by German measles, I think people forget how dangerous these viruses can be and how privileged we are to have the "option " of vaccinations.

^^ Very much this.

I'm a child of the 50s. None of you remember diphtheria, TB, polio etc and the high mortality rates. I was at school with a boy who wore calipers because of polio

The relief when these vaccines were widely available!

NotReadyForAutumnYet · 19/11/2023 04:36

Want to get mine the flu jab, but was cancelled due to staff sickness. Daughter has now been ill for a couple of weeks with some rotten virus. Want to make sure she's clear of it first. Hope she doesn't get ill waiting for vaccination in the waiting room. There are always messages when you call up about being short staffed due to sickness, but no ventilation, hepas or masks. Stupid.

electriclight · 19/11/2023 07:27

When I had flu as a child I was hospitalised. Everyone thought it was meningitis. I can still remember how ill I felt. I consider it a privilege to live in a country where a vaccination is offered at school, free of charge, and my children have them. This is because I want to protect them from pain, illness and complications arising from this. I think anyone capable of reading and understanding what is in them would be happy to give them to their child. I'm also a teacher and have seen illness rip through a class where many did not accept the vaccination, and spoken to many repentant parents.

Maray1967 · 19/11/2023 07:35

Binjob118 · 30/09/2023 19:59

I don't know.

Immunisations are there to provide herd immunity. We protect the vulnerable who have conditions that meant they can’t be immunised by everybody else being immunised. It’s not difficult to understand.

In the case of the flu vaccine and the benefit of it for your DC, at some point your DC will probably get flu. Mine got it at 11. Two weeks off school with illness. He got it every year for 4 years. At 15 with GCSEs coming I begged the GP surgery for him to have the jab and he agreed. That was the first year he didn’t get it and stayed healthy. I am probably the first parent to sign DS2 up for the spray every year. Why on earth wouldn’t you?

Alondra · 19/11/2023 07:50

Binjob118 · 30/09/2023 20:41

I just gave an example where the NHS changed their minds on vaccinating young children. So where they wrong to begin with? I admit I no longer just accept without questioning. I thought MN may have some deeper insights perhaps.

There are serious data available showing how the influenza vaccine reduces the chance of getting the flu in school age children from 33% to 11%. As other posters have said, you should be talking about this issue with your child GP.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6491174/#:~:text=Compared%20with%20placebo%20or%20no,0.79%3B%2019%2C044%20children%3B%20moderate%E2%80%90

Vaccines for preventing influenza in healthy children

The consequences of influenza in children and adults are mainly absenteeism from school and work. However, the risk of complications is greatest in children and people over 65 years of age. This is an update of a review published in 2011. Future update...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6491174#:~:text=Compared%20with%20placebo%20or%20no,0.79%3B%2019%2C044%20children%3B%20moderate%E2%80%90

Londonrach1 · 19/11/2023 08:01

It's a flu sniff. Up to you. Personally I'm glad I live in a country that offers it to my dd. Flu is nasty

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 19/11/2023 08:02

The aim for flu vaccine is not to provide herd immunity - that's why it's not offered to the whole hers.

It's to stop hospitals being filled, so its offered to the most vulnerable - those with certain medical conditions, the elderly, the pregnant, infants and children (which is roughly the risk order, arguably as older DC aren't at as great a risk as the u8s they should perhaps not be included, but parental pressure on the government so siblings regardless of age should have same level of protection led to that extension)

Same is happening for covid now, signalling abandonment off the aim of herd immunity, and the vaccination groups are pretty much the same, except for children aren't included.

Laszlomydarling · 19/11/2023 08:09

Two otherwise healthy children from the primary school I work in are currently in hospital with the flu. Yes it should be given.

Tryingmybestadhd · 19/11/2023 11:22

Our school is small only 90 students in 7 years , 10 people I know do not give the flu jab or let their kids be around it on the day is given due to shedding fir a variety of reasons . I’m sure others don’t allow it either . If you are unsure then don’t feel you must . It’s not mandatory for a reason

Parker231 · 19/11/2023 11:39

Tryingmybestadhd · 19/11/2023 11:22

Our school is small only 90 students in 7 years , 10 people I know do not give the flu jab or let their kids be around it on the day is given due to shedding fir a variety of reasons . I’m sure others don’t allow it either . If you are unsure then don’t feel you must . It’s not mandatory for a reason

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a80c9f0ed915d74e33fc69d/PHE_factsheet_for_HCW_and_headteachers_on_LAIV_-_concerns_about_viral_shedding.pdf

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a80c9f0ed915d74e33fc69d/PHE_factsheet_for_HCW_and_headteachers_on_LAIV_-_concerns_about_viral_shedding.pdf

Tryingmybestadhd · 19/11/2023 11:52

our headteacher had cancer herself , are know too well it sheds as her children couldn’t have it while are had treatment . I know it sheds as my oldest is alergic and can’t be near his brother or anyone who just had it ( he is immuno compromised) . Others will have their reasons . Thankfully we have a good school that puts safety first instead of attendance rates . Our Gp requests us to stay away too for at least 2 days .

NorthernMonkey2 · 08/06/2024 19:27

The vaccine doesn't stop you from getting a virus or prevent you from transmitting it to someone else. All it does is lessen symptoms. A healthy child does not need a flu vaccine & DEFINATELY not the COVID vaccine!

NorthernMonkey2 · 08/06/2024 19:30

Does your logic suggest we put a child in potential harm from taking an unnecessary vaccine for the benefit of Granny?

gamerchick · 08/06/2024 19:31

My time machine works Grin

Bonjovispjs · 08/06/2024 19:32

gamerchick · 08/06/2024 19:31

My time machine works Grin

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