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Not to give my child Flu jab

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Binjob118 · 30/09/2023 19:55

My son is 6 and has been offered the nasal flu jab at school. He has had it the last 2 years and had no problems, but I now feel reluctant to give it to him. Does a healthy child really need this? I have to admit this change in my thinking has come about since the COVID vaccine rollout and the many vaccine injuries that seem to be being ignored by the MSM.

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Desecratedcoconut · 03/10/2023 19:00

At the risk of being that person, are they going in with or as a result of COVID? Because nobody is testing kids admitted with a broken arm of flu.

RafaistheKingofClay · 03/10/2023 20:26

Desecratedcoconut · 03/10/2023 19:00

At the risk of being that person, are they going in with or as a result of COVID? Because nobody is testing kids admitted with a broken arm of flu.

It comes from SARI surveillance system which tests for both flu and covid and probably other respiratory infections too. Basically standard winter testing but now with covid added too I think. Routine testing on admission doesn’t really happen now. Pretty sure it stopped before last winter. That being said it doesn’t necessarily follow that covid was a primary diagnosis it could have been either a contributing factor or incidental.

That being said, incidental covid infection with broken arms doesn’t really account for the huge discrepancy between rates in 5-14 year olds who have the lowest rates of covid admissions and 0-4 year olds who have one of the highest. The discrepancy between those is bigger if you only take into account HDU/ICU admissions.

At the risk of also being that person, if covid is like flu, then this is exactly the admissions pattern you’d expect. Younger children being higher risk than older ones.

carddino · 03/10/2023 20:26

@Mummyoflittledragon but that's not what the other poster said.

That's terrible for you. And your child. And you have clearly worked closely and taken medical advice.

But they said I'm not doing it because a friends child was distressed, and a toddler.

It's the entire I'm not doing something because a man at the bus stop told me not to thing.

CarefullyAirbrushedPotato · 03/10/2023 20:33

No you're not unreasonable to make informed choices for your family's health

Raizin · 03/10/2023 20:34

My son didn't have it at school today. No need. My choice.

Parker231 · 03/10/2023 20:38

Raizin · 03/10/2023 20:34

My son didn't have it at school today. No need. My choice.

You didn’t want to lessen the impact of flu?

WetBandits · 03/10/2023 20:39

I missed my flu jab last year (kept putting it off because I was busy with XYZ), ended up absolutely floored with flu for three weeks and felt like I could happily just curl up and die. Spent one of those weeks with a temperature of 40.5 degrees that no amount of paracetamol/ibuprofen would bring down. Please don’t put your little one at risk of that! Flu kills.

HongKongGarden · 03/10/2023 21:13

CeriB82 · 03/10/2023 17:50

No. My DC developed issues after covid jabs so no one in our house is having the flu jab

Post hoc ergo proper hoc…

HongKongGarden · 03/10/2023 21:17

CarefullyAirbrushedPotato · 03/10/2023 20:33

No you're not unreasonable to make informed choices for your family's health

It’s not tenable to claim that not vaccinating a child (who doesn’t have known or suspected issues with the vaccine) against flu comes as a result of informed consent.

It comes as a result of reading something on Facebook rather than doing even the most basic research into the actual data.

PinkPlantCase · 04/10/2023 08:39

@HongKongGarden I know you’re only responding to the PP who wrote about informed consent. But legally people can decline anything medical they don’t want for any reason. Whether their consent is informed or not. They could be told the risks and benefits of something with their fingers in their ears and still decline it.

I think it’s something we forget sometimes with all the talk of informed consent. Informed consent is something medical professionals should obtain before they do anything to us or for us, it doesn’t necessarily work both ways in terms of declining treatment.

Wolvesart · 04/10/2023 08:47

It’s a simple and straightforward vaccine given in a manner that’s not upsetting to the child. No I would not decline it.

Its more of a puzzle that we don’t roll this out to all kids at school and more of the adult population

Alltheyearround · 04/10/2023 21:47

Not that new, I think DS has had it every year at school and he's 13.

Mumsthewordd · 17/10/2023 22:17

Don't these vunerable grandparents and sick people not get the flu Jag to protect themselves?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 17/10/2023 22:59

Mumsthewordd · 17/10/2023 22:17

Don't these vunerable grandparents and sick people not get the flu Jag to protect themselves?

Still waiting for an available appointment. Have tried multiple locations but they either haven't got them (and don't have the shingles one either) or they only offer appointments for an hour and a half or so when I'm at work.

PosterBoy · 17/10/2023 23:02

NeverDropYourMooncup · 17/10/2023 22:59

Still waiting for an available appointment. Have tried multiple locations but they either haven't got them (and don't have the shingles one either) or they only offer appointments for an hour and a half or so when I'm at work.

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That's awful! It's just walk in at any pharmacy near us Sad that there's such regional differences

FunnysInLaJardin · 17/10/2023 23:03

why would you not?

thelengthspeoplegoto · 17/10/2023 23:21

Our kids had the nasal spray. Myself and DH had the jab.
We had flu a few years ago and it was nothing short of horrendous. Floored for 3 weeks and then a couple of weeks to get back up to full speed. I'm all for the flu vaccine.

Justifiedcheese · 17/10/2023 23:57

There have NOT been "many vaccine injuries ignored by the MSM"

That's conspiracy theory bollocks, and if you allow it to influence you then you're a fool.

Read some history about what things were like before mass vaccination. Summary: it involved a lot of people dying before their time.

CurlewKate · 18/10/2023 00:04

Have you read the information sheet for Calpol?

Milarky · 18/10/2023 03:57

Nope. Why would I? Healthy kids don't die of flu.

StaunchMomma · 18/10/2023 04:27

FFS, it's a nasal spray with a teeny bit of flu virus to build up a bit of resistance.

Children can be really poorly with the flu. Why wouldn't you want to avoid that?!

Parker231 · 18/10/2023 06:41

Milarky · 18/10/2023 03:57

Nope. Why would I? Healthy kids don't die of flu.

They do die and they can also become very unwell.

electriclight · 18/10/2023 06:47

I'm a teacher and flu did the rounds in my class last year where the take up for the vaccination was less than 50% - very, very poorly children including trips to hospital. I got it but minor as had my jab. Felt sorry for my TA who has a disabled, vulnerable child and was scared to death of taking it home.

electriclight · 18/10/2023 06:49

Oh but take up among that same cohort is nearly 100% this year - lesson learnt I think. Watching your child suffer avoidably because of your choice must be awful. I don't understand it myself but respect the fact it's parental choice of course.

electriclight · 18/10/2023 06:52

Milarky · 18/10/2023 03:57

Nope. Why would I? Healthy kids don't die of flu.

I think that's a silly thing to say. Rarely die but very, very poorly when they didn't need to be.