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To think this is shitty and snobbish

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Thelaughingtonepoliceman · 30/09/2023 10:57

I have two close friends, A and B. I have known A for decades (since we were teenagers). Have known B for less time, but she's a solid friend and we all get on well and go out sometimes.

A has been in a LTR with a bloke for decades (20+ years): they have three kids, very settled. He's nice enough, a great dad but I've always thought he's a bit of a snob and that may be colouring my judgement. B is in a relatively new relationship (coming up to two years) after a horrible divorce.

A's other half has developed an intense and apparently irrational dislike of B's other half. As far as I can tell this is purely based on snobbery. B's other half is not the world's most charismatic person, not a sparkling conversationalist. He's quiet and kind of awkward and struggles to read a room but is always polite and respectful and is as far as we can tell kind, decent and generous. B seems happy with him.

A has been having an issue with some work stuff and B's partner (they work in the same industry) was helping her with it, at A's request. B's partner was doing this unpaid and has gone round to help her with it a couple of weekends running (never alone, other people and family have always been there so no suggestion any cheating or flirting has occurred).

A has said she is hugely grateful to B's boyfriend and asked B if she could him a gift to thank him. B suggested buying him dinner and drinks and tried to find a date for us all to go out (including me and my DP and our kids). A flapped for a bit and changed the subject.

A told me later in private after B and her partner had gone that she couldn't do that to her partner because her partner finds B's partner "hilariously dull" and couldn't sit in a pub or a restaurant with him for an hour without "exploding with boredom".

I thought that was really shitty. B's partner can be a bit dull sometimes but it costs nothing to sit and have a drink with him. Particularly as he's done a favour for A. Unless I'm missing some private issue between these two blokes (I'm pretty sure I'm not because they've only met about four times), I think this is just A's partner being a nasty snob.

Everyone's entitled to choose their friends and there's no reason A's partner and B's partner need to be great mates, but not being able to be superficially friendly to someone who's done your family a favour over a drink just seems so rude.

Of course A can just buy a present and give it to B's partner (which is probably what will happen). But the idea that A's partner thinks he can just walk out of rooms every time B's partner is present and completely avoid him, causing embarrassment to his family, just because he finds the bloke a bit boring, seems so entitled to me.

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Shinyandnew1 · 30/09/2023 17:16

B suggested buying him dinner and drinks

I’d think that would end up being a lot more expensive than a normal gift!

Itsnamechange · 30/09/2023 17:29

A sounds worse to me. It sounds like she was trying to involve op in a good old Giggle about how dull B's boyfriend is after all the unpaid help he provided her.
It sounds like you've outgrown these particular friends op.

Fahbeep · 30/09/2023 17:35

I would place money on A's partner being neither as witty, cultured or intelligent as he believes he is. Sounds smug to me. It's not that difficult to pass off smugness for charisma as both based in confidence. It's just that the confidence is often misplaced in people like A's partner. I'd take an hour in the pub with B's partner any day of the week over the same with A's partner. I wonder if A's partner would give up his weekends for free to help B. I suspect not.

LakieLady · 30/09/2023 17:36

A's partner is a knob as well as a snob. A should take B and her partner out to say "thank you" and leave her partner home alone, where he can enjoy his own, oh so superior company.

Thelaughingtonepoliceman · 30/09/2023 17:42

Itsnamechange · 30/09/2023 17:29

A sounds worse to me. It sounds like she was trying to involve op in a good old Giggle about how dull B's boyfriend is after all the unpaid help he provided her.
It sounds like you've outgrown these particular friends op.

Yeah tbh that was my interpretation of it. I can quite understand how they might privately roll their eyes at one another about him after spending a whole day with him.

But the way she was sort of trying to make me complicit in this in joke about how awful he was nudge nudge wink wink just seemed really unkind.

It was like: “we all know how boring he is, I can take one for the team but I couldn’t ask Mr A. God forbid I would subject my superior partner to this.

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mathanxiety · 30/09/2023 17:46

I'd be concerned that A's partner who has 'strong feelings' is a controlling man.

It's not 'snobbery' therefore, but something more serious.

Thelaughingtonepoliceman · 30/09/2023 17:52

mathanxiety · 30/09/2023 17:46

I'd be concerned that A's partner who has 'strong feelings' is a controlling man.

It's not 'snobbery' therefore, but something more serious.

I have wondered about this.

He’s never been obviously controlling on a way which has worried me. She’s never given any indication that he’s tried to stop her doing anything.

I just think he’s quite (small c) conservative, set in his ways and a bit pleased with himself and likes to hang out with other people exactly like him who reinforce his worldview. And doesn’t like being outside his comfort zone.

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Millybob · 30/09/2023 17:52

A's partner is being perfectly reasonable. Why does he have to be dragged into it? Surely A can book a dinner to thank a friend for a favour without needing a male prop by her side?

Thelaughingtonepoliceman · 30/09/2023 17:57

Millybob · 30/09/2023 17:52

A's partner is being perfectly reasonable. Why does he have to be dragged into it? Surely A can book a dinner to thank a friend for a favour without needing a male prop by her side?

I’ve explained this several times but again; I don’t think he has to be a “prop” and I don’t don’t think they have to become firm friends or hang out as a foursome or anything like that.

But A has indicated that he basically refuses to socialise with him in any way, shape or form even with other people around and even for a brief period in recognition of him having done the family a big favour.

I just think any kind of blanket refusal to associate with someone who is in your broader circle (unless they have done something wrong to you personally) is arrogant and disrespectful.

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