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To think that people should use their manners when I'm out walking my dog

215 replies

politenesspooch · 29/09/2023 18:25

I've changed name for this due to the dog haters on here.

I walk my dog on lead of an early evening (he has a long off lead walk in the morning). I'm training him to walk properly by my side on a loose leash, but it's a work in progress and will take some time. He's a spaniel and very high energy, so I use lots of treats and encouragement. I've used and paid for a trainer to be able to do this correctly and I'm following her instruction and technique.

So why then do I have to contend with joggers, people on bikes and walkers coming up right behind me and my dog, spooking us both? Why don't they say "Excuse me!" because I would quite happily move to one side and make room for them?

Tonight it was a woman who exclaimed as she walked right up behind me and surprised both me and my dog and so my dog jumped towards her because he was taken by surprise?

AIBU to think people should just use some basic manners?

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CakeInAJar · 29/09/2023 18:53

@Sistedtwister i just googled GSD what a sad little sound! Also came across a TikTok of some nob whose greyhound got stuck in the driver’s seat of her car and she films it and sort of puts her hands on him. Stop getting social clout you bellend and move the seat back, the dog was crying!

CakeInAJar · 29/09/2023 18:55

HappiestSleeping · 29/09/2023 18:53

I think this is unreasonable but not for the reasons you might think. I have experienced this while walking my dog and it startles me and the dog. In an ideal world, there would be a little bit of warning. After all, they are essentially creeping up on an animal (2 animals if you include me). These are the same people who would complain about being growled at / bitten (and I know they shouldnt have to worry about this while going about their business, but it is an animal). They wouldn't creep up on a horse in a field, or any other animal, so why it's OK to do it to a dog is beyond me.

However, people are stupid, self absorbed, and don't think about what they are doing. Do they need to give notice / warning? No. Would it be sensible to do so? Yes. So my unreasonable verdict is because you are expecting people to be sensible when they are inherently not so.

I have my flame proof helmet on now, so bring on the debate MN 🤪

Edited

When you say ‘creep up’ what do you mean? I’m just trying to picture the scene and I just have an image of the Pink Panther 🤣

Kissmas · 29/09/2023 18:58

Pmsl. It's not the other people who are self absorbed here OP.

firef1y · 29/09/2023 19:04

Are you not aware of your surroundings?
Got to say that there is a certain type of dog walker that seems to have no idea what is going on around them. If your dog is that reactive then surely you're spending time looking what's going on.
As for runners, we're generally not silent, if you're aware of your surroundings then you should be able to hear us coming. After all according to a certain type of poster during lockdown, we're all heavy breathing, foot stompers

firef1y · 29/09/2023 19:05

CakeInAJar · 29/09/2023 18:55

When you say ‘creep up’ what do you mean? I’m just trying to picture the scene and I just have an image of the Pink Panther 🤣

I'm gonna try creeping next time I go out for a run, it's gotta be easier than actually running.

Poppysmom22 · 29/09/2023 19:09

I've got dogs and people run at me and ride at me like they are daring me to leap off the path. They rarely give me enough time or space to get my dog under control before they are shouting or ringing the bell at us to move out of their way.

Sunshinenrain · 29/09/2023 19:10

Tonight it was a woman who exclaimed

So did she say excuse me?

As that’s what you said you wanted.

If it’s wide enough to get around you then there’s no need to announce it.

If they have to squeeze past you or want to overtake you (especially cyclists) then they should say excuse me.

MysteryBelle · 29/09/2023 19:28

I totally get you feeling startled, so would I, but there’s really no way for someone to call out ‘excuse me’ or ‘make way’ ‘wide load’ ‘incoming’ ‘watch out’ ‘someone behind you’ LOL, without sounding aggressive and startling in itself. Usually a jogger or biker will just try to give a wide berth around you as they go past, if possible.

Not sure what the solution is. I try to stay on the far right side of whatever path I’m on so that someone (silently) overtaking me can go round me easily.

MysteryBelle · 29/09/2023 19:32

Poppysmom22 · 29/09/2023 19:09

I've got dogs and people run at me and ride at me like they are daring me to leap off the path. They rarely give me enough time or space to get my dog under control before they are shouting or ringing the bell at us to move out of their way.

A bunch of these posts are hilarious with people cutting others off. @Poppysmom22, I’m not laughing at you, those actions are so rude and despicable, but you’ve painted a visual that’s it’s hard not to see exactly what you’re describing. I do hate rude people! I was once struck down while walking by a teen on a bicycle barreling past me on a university campus. He didn’t even bother to stop to see if I was ok.

Sistedtwister · 29/09/2023 19:33

@CakeInAJar it is an awful heart stopping sound. But as she voiced her most impressive Yell when a leaf landed on her head I can hand on heart say it does not necessarily result from significant trauma

HappiestSleeping · 29/09/2023 19:34

CakeInAJar · 29/09/2023 18:55

When you say ‘creep up’ what do you mean? I’m just trying to picture the scene and I just have an image of the Pink Panther 🤣

Approach relatively quickly without much noise, like when cycling or running.

HappiestSleeping · 29/09/2023 19:35

firef1y · 29/09/2023 19:05

I'm gonna try creeping next time I go out for a run, it's gotta be easier than actually running.

Can't beat a good bit of creeping 🤪

Poppysmom22 · 29/09/2023 19:38

The reason he's afraid is because a cyclist clipped him a nice because he 'didn't want to lose his rhythm' now I've got a very scared dog with 42 teeth on the end of a piece of string I just need people to have some respect for that fact and give me time and space to make encounters positive to try to reverse the damage

Cupcakekiller · 29/09/2023 19:39

Unless a dog off the lead is something like a bully xl, I'll just pass without fuss if there's room. I only say excuse me if I need to move. I don't really think about whether dogs are training or not just as I don't really think about anyone else when they're out and about minding their own business, unless they're threatening or vulnerable in some way.

CakeInAJar · 29/09/2023 19:39

HappiestSleeping · 29/09/2023 19:34

Approach relatively quickly without much noise, like when cycling or running.

That’s just walking though! Sorry but it’s ludicrous to expect people to alert you of their presence

hennaoj · 29/09/2023 19:42

Poppysmom22 · 29/09/2023 19:09

I've got dogs and people run at me and ride at me like they are daring me to leap off the path. They rarely give me enough time or space to get my dog under control before they are shouting or ringing the bell at us to move out of their way.

This, exactly. It's especially not great when I have glue ear (so I can be quite deaf) and I need a bit of extra time to process things (aspergers). They don't slow down! Why can't joggers slow down a bit when passing people? I barely get enough time to tell my rather slow at times dog (he meanders, despite his young age) to move the side, never mind put him on the lead/get hold of his collar.

madeinmanc · 29/09/2023 19:44

If you're on a shared path with cyclists your dog must be kept on a short lead by your side, and you should both keep to the left of the path.

AmazingSnakeHead · 29/09/2023 19:46

Yeah, I do expect to be able to overtake people who are going slower than I am without saying excuse me and without a dog jumping on me. I would exclaim as well, I hate dogs jumping up at me with a passion.

Saverage · 29/09/2023 19:48

I get tired of dog walkers using a long leash on walking paths. It's like a fricking trip wire. Keep it for open spaces.

politenesspooch · 29/09/2023 19:50

Daffodilwoman · 29/09/2023 18:27

Where are joggers and people walking supposed to go?

They can just say "Excuse me" like I suggested in my first post? As I said, I'm quite happy to move out of the way.

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CakeInAJar · 29/09/2023 19:52

politenesspooch · 29/09/2023 19:50

They can just say "Excuse me" like I suggested in my first post? As I said, I'm quite happy to move out of the way.

But if the path is wide enough for them to pass why do they need to say excuse me?

politenesspooch · 29/09/2023 19:54

yogasaurus · 29/09/2023 18:28

So why then do I have to contend with joggers, people on bikes and walkers coming up right behind me and my dog, spooking us both? Why don't they say "Excuse me!" because I would quite happily move to one side and make room for them?

Who says excuse me every time they walk past someone with a dog? How are they supposed to know he’s excitable? Even if they did, that’s your issue, not theirs.

Yabu, it’s not up to others to adjust their behaviour for your dog

PS - I’m not a dog hater, I have dogs of my own.

Edited

The can't walk past as we're on a pathway and it's not wide enough for both them and me and my dog. Instead they walk right up behind me and squeeze past.

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HappiestSleeping · 29/09/2023 19:54

CakeInAJar · 29/09/2023 19:39

That’s just walking though! Sorry but it’s ludicrous to expect people to alert you of their presence

Yes, I know that was my point. Well, sort of as we were talking about cyclists and runners, not walkers, so they approach more quickly. I don't expect it. It would be a sensible thing to do when an animal is involved though.

Mamette · 29/09/2023 19:55

Eh no. I will not say excuse me to dogs / dog walkers as I have as much right to walk or run on a path as anyone else.

If your dog can’t cope with being in public maybe you need to make better arrangements for him.

politenesspooch · 29/09/2023 19:56

DoooooWhoop · 29/09/2023 18:29

You can't expect the world to stop and for everyone to disappear just because you're doing a bit of dog training. People have a right to use the pavements and sounds like you're in the way.

Go and do your training on a field instead?

He can't learn to walk on a lead on a path in a field. It's a different environment. He has to be able to learn to walk close to me on a path, with traffic passing by.

He does training in the field in the mornings, both on and off lead.

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