To think that home education should mean one parent has no requirement to work under UC?

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I home educate but I’m in receipt of carers allowance so I don’t have to worry but many of the parents in the groups we attend have children with difficulties who couldn’t manage school and because they don’t get dla or are waiting for a dla claim (it takes months) they are under extreme pressure.

I know that some people plan to home educate and yes if its a choice for NT dc from age 4 then I can see why they’d be expected to fund that/work alongside but there’s a huge groups of parents struggling to home educate children with difficulties and it seems as if they aren’t recognised and supported ?

AIBU to think that if you’ve had to de register for a child who can’t manage school and you are engaging with your LA home education department (a lot of home educators refuse to engage so there should be something in place where UC have it verified ?) that you should be able to get UC with no requirement to work?

No you didn't, are you honestly expecting me to believe you work in privacy/data protection and know what you are talking about, if that is the case you can explain the situation in depth to those that are asking me to do it, all the actions they need to take and what the due diligence involves. You might want to separately go about that though as the thread may not be big enough for that level of information to be posted.

I am not sure why you have carried out some covert investigation to get me to reveal my true intentions as I have openly said from the outset the idea in the OP is flawed. This is not some great conspiracy where people are out to get the homeschoolers - I don't give a toss if you homeschool, I do care that children have a right to an education, which would be a substandard one in some cases if homeschooling was a choice just because it is nice to do!

Not sharing your life story isn’t lying.
It’s like a school, maybe there is a mum who an advisor at the job centre. She probably won’t mention it to everyone, kids can still be friends. Another parent might vote for the Tories, she doesn’t tell everyone. No one usually even cares what you do, until you tell them. 99% of the time‘I’m busy’ is just fine.
I bet if your son tells another child he saw a tutor that kid won’t remember it 30 seconds later, let alone report back.
stop imposing adult values and disagreements on kids. You aren’t in it to make friends. Your kids can be friends with kids whose parents share other values.
Some of my home Ed friends are hippy types, some unschool, some tutor, some will go back to school. So what? It’s just like school in that respect.
You’ll not find many people to socialise with if you keep having silly rows over nothing. And that means the kids won’t either. The only time I ever struggle with home Ed is when they bore on about philosophy, whether Steiner, Charlotte Mason, the national curriculum or unschooling…. Just that inflexible drone of ‘can’t do different’.

😂good grief is this you demonstrating you know about data protection as what you are alluding to yet again is e-safety, for what seems like the 100th time there is not some categorical list of companies or other organisations that process your personal data that is available out there on the internet, if you want anything akin to that for Ed tech you need to pay for it, a PP is right the government doesn't provide a pre approved list so outside of that it will to be paid for- mainly because it is reflecting the hard work and knowledge needed to approve that compliancy.

You can always ask Studswagger though as they appear to have all the knowledge of this area of work.

Hilarious, when you are trying to convince me that I am wrong about a point that I have never asserted i.e it is complete fiction on your part.

I am not talking about e-safety, I am talking about personal data. I asked for examples of the types of companies EHE families may give their data to that others don’t, not specific companies, not about e-safety. I don’t need to pay for anything, you are the one stating something which I asked you to provide an example of.

I don't understand your question, you want examples but you don't want specific company names. It is not that personal data of children will be shared by homeschoolers but not by schools, I mean it may be the case that there are organisations, companies that home schoolers have shared their data with and a school wouldn't touch with a barge pole but who knows. It is not relevant to my point, which is about the ability and resources to carry out due diligence, to put in place technical and organisational measures to reduce the risk to the personal data. It is sometimes a risk assessment process, the action taken is on a case by case basis. The outcome of this is that the risk to the homeschoolers sharing their personal data is higher than in an organisational context.

Some such list and service is for organisations, not private individuals and they cost thousands.

@Goldenbear my original question - Can you provide an example of the type of companies EHE families give their personal data to that schooled families don’t? So, no I’m not asking for specific company names, you clearly didn’t want to post any, but the type of companies you mean. It is relevant to your point because you are incorrectly assuming schooled families don’t share their personal data with companies themselves separate to school. So I was asking what companies do EHE families use that others don’t.

Wow, you are rather defensive. I’m not desperate to make friends with home Ed people particularly, I have both mum friends and pre baby friends. My home Ed kid has friends who aren’t home Ed- but sometimes we also go to home Ed stuff.

I’m only bothered about turning up and making polite small talk for an hour here or there while he joins in with an activity. I don’t have the luxury of enough time to try to be bezzy mates with every home Ed parent I meet.

This never seems to be an issue with the families with children with SEN who have been forced out of the school system- they all seem to be concentrating on caring for their children as best they can- not picking apart everyone else’s families and methods of home educating.

If responding to a question about what my career is by saying… what my career is (they always love that one!) or a question about my husband by referring to my wife, is an unnecessary telling of my life story then fair enough. I guess some people would lie and gloss over things to fit into a group but that isn’t me.

And I’ll certainly never tell my children to lie about their family in case some bigot gets upset- and none of us would want to be friends with ‘people who hold other values’ if those other values are homophobic.

Be a new age unschooling hippy, be a high court judge with a governess and 4 tutors- I’m somewhere in the middle myself- that doesn’t affect being able to be friendly and polite- just don’t pretend that your way is the correct way and everyone else is doing it wrong!

The unsuccessful nature of lockdown home schooling for many families was not due to parental incompetence or lack of financial resources!

First, many schools were demanding parents follow an inappropriate, inflexible school-at-home model. That's difficult and unnecessary, and yes, it is beyond the ability of many nonprofessionals. (By the same token, if I'd been required to look after my babies exactly as a professional working in a day nursery would, I would have failed at that, but luckily there was no such requirement. Parenting is worlds apart from paid childcare in a group setting, just as home education is worlds apart from schooling.)

Second, Covid restrictions deprived families of the opportunities most of us rely on heavily: going out for a change of scene, discussing challenges with other parents, participating in the larger community, getting kids together with friends, doing sports and art and scouts in groups with other kids.

Third, many parents were under immense stress at this time because they were thrown into a situation where they were expected to work from home at the same time as educating their kids.

I totally disagree that "not many" parents can offer a good home ed experience, or that those who turn to home education in desperation after their kids have been harmed by school are more likely to deliver poor quality home education. This isn't what I've seen at all. It is no more true than the prediction that people whose pregnancies were unplanned are destined to be crap parents.

Religious wingnuts? How dare you!! There's all manner of reasons people might not want their child to attent school, most who keep their children home for religious reasons don't need universal credit! They don't waste their money on false nails, eyelashes fancy hair dos, fags booze, nights out, take aways, designer clothes n shoes, endless days out, foreign boozy holidays,flash cars, and can often afford to live on one salary because of this!! Why can't you just talk to op without being extremely rude about people with religious beliefs who rarely take anything from the state