Risk your life, live with taking a life but we will charge you with murder

[sleepyscientist]

Anyone else things police officers should have indemnity from prosecution whilst on duty. This poor officer followed a suspect that was believed to be armed, stepped out of his vehicle and into the line of fire to protect us.

Now because it turns out he was unarmed he's not only up on a disciplinary but facing a murder charge. Rightly other officers are stepping back so now our armed capacity is falling......terror attack risk right there! Hopefully any jury finds him not guilty!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12552965/Met-police-protest-Chris-Kaba-murder-charge.html

So if Wayne Couzens was on duty, you would happily have protected him from prison and fought for his right to be free despite be a murderer and rapist?

I’m quite shocked that the rest of the mob are so unsure they would be able to act legally, they have to go on strike. Terrifying. Hope they’re all sacked.

The last thing anybody needs is Police officers being given total immunity for anything they do with a weapon. They are not beyond the Law, even though some of the actions that have come to light - domestic abuse, sexual assault, rape, murder, for example - clearly demonstrate that this is what they believe is their right.

All those who have handed in their tickets should fuck off. They might like to think that they're Robocop, but they aren't.

Don’t be daft OP. One in a hundred police officers in England and Wales are facing criminal charges of some sort. There some real issues within the police, they are not a collective of heroes. There is also institutional racism within the Met.

It’s reasonable the officer be charged with murder if there doesn’t appear to have been a good reason to think the guy was armed.

It doesn’t mean he’ll be found guilty.

That story certainly gives an interesting angle to the whole thing. So it seems there was a reasonable suspicion that someone in the car may have a firearm due to the car been involved in a firearm incident a few days earlier. I’m sure his family will say it wasn’t him but he’s done time before for firearm offences so on a balance of probability I’d say there’s a good chance he was involved.

he didn’t stop when chased by two police cars, they eventually box him in. He continues to drive at the police officers. A witness said he could have killed someone.

on the other hand I guess there’s an argument could/should the police have stepped back and let him drive off? I’ve no idea what the protocol is here. Or do they say if there is a chance there is a gun he must be stopped? But could it be argues well no gun was seen that day? The cps must have seen the body camera footage. Now normally they won’t prosecute unless there’s a reasonable chance of a conviction, so do they genuinely think there is a reasonable chance or is this a political decision and the cps haven’t wanted to be seen to not be investigating/persuing the death of a black man at the hands of the police?

If I was an armed police officer I would certainly be handing my ticket in. They don’t even get paid any extra, so not worth the risk of a life prison sentence. Just do an ordinary police job. I’d imagine that police officer did think there was a threat to his life, the court case will come down to whether that was a reasonable thought? Well sorry, but I wouldn’t want to run the risk that someone not in my shoes would disagree with me.

I'm not going to comment on the case, because I haven't read enough about it. But giving police officers a get out of jail free card is batshit, bonkers idiocy. Anyone suggesting it, having looked at recent events, can safely be ignored.

The report I read said he was followed by an unmarked car, turned into a road where a marked car block him. The officer who did the shooting was in the marked car.

Don't know which version is true but it does sound like the "unmarked car" could now be being mixed up with the car that stopped him.

No comment on the case, of course I don't think police officers should have any kind of indemnity. BUT I also think it's very easy to sit at home, read the details all laid out nice and clearly and cast judgement on what people should and shouldn't have done without any of the confusion and stress of the actual situation.

Yeah, the Daily Mail. Such a neutral and objective source.
Give fucking over. The Police Already get away with far too much and you want to give them leeway just to kill anyone they fancy?
Bloody hell.

Probably. Because OP is either astoundingly naive or thinks the Police should have the arbitrary power of life and death, in which case her moral compass is bent out of shape big time.

I’ve got loads of police officers in my family /circle of friends . They’re great people, full of integrity and courage, (men and women) and they’re aL most all wanting to leave. Policing in this country is being made so difficult.
You want to see the people they deal with day to day. Criminals who have 40/50 convictions (rapists, drug dealers, peadophiles) but they so much as touch them, they’re all over social media and in the wrong .
When all the police have left and the criminals take over people will be sorry. Look at the US .

From the IOPC investigation

At around 10.07pm, Mr Kaba made a left turn from New Park Road onto Kirkstall Gardens. Already present on Kirkstall Gardens was a marked police armed response vehicle. The marked ARV had parked on Kirkstall Gardens with the intention of joining the other police vehicles behind the Audi once it had passed the junction. One of the officers inside the marked ARV was NX121.

So it was a marked car.

Maybe check your facts before you post. I didn't quote the Daily Mail, I didn't link to the Daily Mail. So maybe you should give fucking over.

Oh dear What a shame. Hope they get to hand their notice in soon.

ps. It’s pAedophile.

Why do you hope they hand in their notice soon?

What I hope is that the grammar police on MN hand in their notice, but hey ho....

So there’s rumours about that the army may have to step in. Seems unlikely but possible I guess if more police officers hand their tickets in. Not sure having some squaddie patrolling the streets with a semi automatic is better than a police officer? I mean they do a good job, but a very different job. 🤷‍♀️.

Sarah Everhard thought like you and look where she is now. No way in f*cking hell I'm stopping for male police officers!

Exactly. The army are already backing away from this thankless task double quick. No one has to do this dangerous unpleasant and thankless job.

He was also a fire arms officer - recruited, despite previous concerns about his conduct, because he had fire arms training - ffs

In answer to the OP NO police should be no more immune from prosecution than anybody else - shooting a man sat in a car is not self defence it's unnecessary force.

Because they all want to leave. Don’t let the door bang your arse etc. cheery bye.

They don't want to leave. They don't feel safe doing their job.

Do you want to feel safe doing your job?

The post I quoted said they want to leave… comprehension not your thing either.

I picked my job, they picked theirs. Whatever their motivation was, now it’s being taken away from them and they can’t abuse their power with impunity, they can’t hack it anymore? Good riddance.

Do you really think they every armed police officer abuses their power?