Russell Brand - everyone knew

[Mooshamoo]

I was watching the comedian Katherine Ryan say to Louis theroux that a British comedian is a sexual perpetrator. It is now believed that she was talking about Russell brand. She said on the video "when it eventually comes out about these type of people, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, this unmentionable British personality, it turns out that everyone knew. Everyone knew. ".

I was wondering did anyone on here on mumsnet know anything about Russell brand? A lot of us lived in London when her was living there. And many women on here would have been a similar age to Russell brand . I lived in London for a year and I saw Russell brand out on a night out once. That was the extent of it. I was wondering did anyone on here have any experience with him, or know about a friend/acquaintance that had any experiences with him.

These are two totally seperate issues. Idk why you are conflating them?

Re him being litigious, this incident has a whole new complexion now
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/culture/2014/sep/11/russell-brand-jemima-khan-masseuse-court-order-harassing

He won damages after suing the Star for saying he was unfaithful
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/russell-brand-awarded-damages-newspaper-18727422.amp

I dont think he has ever been the same since. He is easily lead and what you might call a 'fashion' brand. I think the tide just went out on his fashionability. I hope in time all those people defending RB will look back and wonder what they were thinking.

Brand says he had a "strange relationship" with his father, whom he saw sporadically and who took him to visit prostitutes during a trip to Thailand when Brand was a teenager.

Source: Wikipedia.

Let's face it, with a "role model" like his father, who wasn't a stable and constant feature of his life, RB didn't stand a chance of having healthy attitudes towards women.

They are both media personalities who are/have been protected by their employer. HE is relevant because he is being treated so entirely differently from RB or Schofield or, indeed, anyone else. It is almost as if the BBC simply can't believe Huw is a wrong 'un. And it is entirely legitimate to ask when he is going to be sacked from the stated-funded broadcaster

@teddyandgypsy I agree, fantastic journalism and without this nothing would ever be exposed.

In my opinion he won’t be the only one named in this process. I’ve a feeling it’s going to be like a dam breaking.

If only.

From a friend who works in TV
Most younger TV workers are self employed. If they work on a programme that has someone doing something wrong or inappropriate they'll work till the end of their contract and leave. They don't complain or report because they won't be offered another job in the industry. They just move on, grin and bear it, and stay for just one series.

Senior management rarely know what's going on, but lower management may do. By the time any inappropriate behaviour is addressed out the staff could have changed two or three times.

If one series of a programme is made and its successful its more profitable to change staff than cancel the programme.
Juniors in the industry just avoid working with people they hear about that are not good to work with.

This is what is wrong with the whole industry. Overpaid 'stars' with inflated egos that think they can get away with anything.

Ok, thank you for explaining.

Anorher factor to consider is not just who knew then, but how come now it is known, most comedians are still silent? Why have none of them said a word? Do they believe and support him? Are they potentially risky themselves? Where are all the comedians who could be sayinG something? The only one I’ve seen is Nish Kumar and he doesn’t really count. (I’m referring to male comedians here, I know lots of females have been outspoken)

I bet all the hangers on (including the people you mention ) are all running scared right now. And rightly so.

RB is only left with the likes of Andrew Tate etc for friends.

I believe it was 4 in the investigation plus ones they didn't feature, 4 more at least have come forward since to channel 4 and 1 has reported to the police. I suspect there are a lot more to come out.

Just here to deny things again, eh? Seems to be your MO.

I was on the fringes of media in London until 2007 and it was widely known that he was a predator then.

I love my job very much. It’s not just a job to me it’s part of my soul and being. It’s part of who I am.

If I had the choice between outing a rapist and losing my career and saying nothing, it would be bye bye career. Without a second thought. The reason why overpaid egos get away with everything is because the people around them let them, facilitate them and allow it to continue. It has to be stopped at the source.

I agree. This is the kind of journalism we need.

RB doesn't even have the excuse of 'it was the norm at the time.' Many moons ago I worked for a certain Egyptian gentleman who has recently died. Since leaving I have several times been offered reasonable money to 'tell my story.' I have always given the same answer: 'Why has nobody ever told their story?'

The potential threat from persons of this ilk is of a lethal kind and I'm not suggesting that RB used such tactics. However, what they have in common is a bottomless cheque book, powerful friends and, in RB's case, the climate of opinion. Any woman who had brought a case against Brand would have been destroyed, particularly if she worked in any industry connnected with the media. And in the extremely unlikely event that she won such a case, it would be a pyric victory as she would never work in that field again.

I hope this ends Ross too. Twat.

Yes.

He got away far too lightly at the time.

I'm hoping he's squirming at the reignited spotlight.

I posted this on the other thread (AMA)

Sean Lock from 2014

Yes I did see your post. I miss Sean Lock.

But where are Jimmy Carr and Co now? They’re all remaining resolutely silent.

Anyone else surprised that after years of relentless digging, of a self confessed sex addict who slept with thousands of women on drugs highs and copious amounts of booze, that this is all they could come up with?
Not saying it's not bad, it was always going to be bad, but I would have expected this many through revenge or anger alone, seeing as he treated so many women like shit.
Maybe it's just me!

I think Carr prefers a low profile since his tax controversy

Totally understand. It's really difficult for those wanting a career in the industry and having worked so hard to get one, to then throw it away by reporting 'inappropriate' behaviour... (obviously not as serious as rape though).
These younger employees often have no other work experience to know what is or isn't deemed right or wrong.
The whole Harvey Weinstein story about how he managed to be so vile for so long just proves it.

Exactly – the law is very incoherent here

Someone upthread mentioned a Romeo & Juliet law to serve the purpose the current age of consent is intended to serve – ie for relationships between young people

Wait, what? You’re saying that he can’t have been that bad if “only” four or five women were prepared to go on the record with their experiences?

Words fail me.