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Do you need support after RB allegations?

32 replies

Lwrenagain · 17/09/2023 07:56

Hello pals,

If you're upset/triggered by the RB allegations being everywhere and will be for the foreseeable future, if you need some support, a virtual hug, you want to discuss what's happened to you to people who "get it" or you just want to give a hand hold to those who need it, I thought I'd start a thread. I hope we can support those who need it.

This isn't about RB as a person, there is enough of those threads already.

Lots of numbers here if an emergency -
https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/crisis-services/helplines-listening-services/

https://www.samaritans.org/how-we-can-help/contact-samaritan/

https://www.cps.gov.uk/rasso-guide/what-support-available-help-you-0

https://www.victimsupport.org.uk/crime-info/types-crime/rape-and-sexual-assault/

https://rapecrisis.org.uk/

https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-help/supporting-a-survivor/

https://www.sarsas.org.uk/

https://www.thesurvivorstrust.org/

https://www.supportline.org.uk/problems/rape-and-sexual-assault/

https://247sexualabusesupport.org.uk/

https://www.helpguide.org/articles/ptsd-trauma/recovering-from-rape-and-sexual-trauma.htm

Tips for talking through SA with survivors - https://www.rainn.org/articles/tips-talking-survivors-sexual-assault

They're just a few sites I've googled but they're there if you need them.

I hope everyone is okay and of course I don't mean this specifically for victims of celebrities etc, it's for anyone who needs it. Be it your trauma, or a secondary (such as being support network for a survivors.)

Sending love and support to anyone who needs it.

💐💐💐

Rape and sexual assault - Victim Support

Rape and sexual assaults are traumatic experiences that can affect you both physically and emotionally - everyone reacts differently.

https://www.victimsupport.org.uk/crime-info/types-crime/rape-and-sexual-assault

OP posts:
boomoohoo · 17/09/2023 21:28

Thank you so much @Lwrenagain . Trying to stay away from threads and news about it, but its hard.. I'm grateful for this safe corner.

Lex345 · 17/09/2023 21:33

Thank you so much for starting this thread.

I think many people are triggered by both the allegations and the responses to them-the links are really helpful and an example of what we should be doing when these types of cases are made public-supporting each other.

Thank you again OP x

Lwrenagain · 18/09/2023 02:35

Hope today has been gentle for you all!

I would absolutely recommend not reading comments sections for paper articles on the subject.

I've not hexed this many people since I was in secondary school 😁

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Unfortunatelyyes · 21/09/2023 19:46

Thank you for this thread. I've been struggling quite a lot the past few days with this. I know it's important to discuss it to help dispel ignorance and misogynistic rape myths but it's so, so crushing to hear the same awful crap spewed over and over again every time a famous abuser is exposed.

Whenever someone irl mentions it to me I freeze a little, bracing myself for severe disappointment and a very difficult conversation, but thankfully they have so far been supportive of the victims. But still I fear I'm gonna eventually hear some shit opinions on this, ones that make me question my trust and emotional safety around someone I care about. Online however there has been a deluge of rape apology, even on here. It's truly disturbing.

I think I might finally have to get some counselling tbh.

Lwrenagain · 21/09/2023 20:15

Unfortunatelyyes · 21/09/2023 19:46

Thank you for this thread. I've been struggling quite a lot the past few days with this. I know it's important to discuss it to help dispel ignorance and misogynistic rape myths but it's so, so crushing to hear the same awful crap spewed over and over again every time a famous abuser is exposed.

Whenever someone irl mentions it to me I freeze a little, bracing myself for severe disappointment and a very difficult conversation, but thankfully they have so far been supportive of the victims. But still I fear I'm gonna eventually hear some shit opinions on this, ones that make me question my trust and emotional safety around someone I care about. Online however there has been a deluge of rape apology, even on here. It's truly disturbing.

I think I might finally have to get some counselling tbh.

Ah my friend I want to send you a massive hug, of the most unmumsnetty nature, as they say.

I often wonder about the apologists, are they scared they've been abused, enabled abuser or the abuser? Because the reasons they give are really scraping the barrel.

If you seek counselling I wish you all the luck in the world. 💐

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LizzieSiddal · 21/09/2023 20:17

Thank you for this thread Flowers

Unfortunatelyyes · 21/09/2023 20:43

Lwrenagain · 21/09/2023 20:15

Ah my friend I want to send you a massive hug, of the most unmumsnetty nature, as they say.

I often wonder about the apologists, are they scared they've been abused, enabled abuser or the abuser? Because the reasons they give are really scraping the barrel.

If you seek counselling I wish you all the luck in the world. 💐

Thank you, am sending one back x

I think misogyny is so entrenched in our society that the default position is still to try to find ways to deny SA happens, for many people. It's always the woman that must be lying, in their minds, because they just don't trust or value women in the same way they do with men, even serial abusers who tell on themselves, so they insist everyone must rely only on an obviously flawed and incompetent justice system revealing the truth.

Either that or they are abusers themselves and just don't think it's wrong.

And I think the abuse of women and children is a fundamental part of any patriarchal society, because it helps uphold the power imbalance that it requires so effectively.

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