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to say that two crazy women ruined day out

116 replies

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 15:23

I'll probably be told, why did you let them?
But I didn't really have a choice.
And one was one of my oldest friends.

Friend came to stay for two nights, I wasn't guest ready at all as still moving into new home, bit chaotic but she wanted to regardless so we agreed we'd get out of house yesterday

She's always wanted to go to Avebury (somewhere I know very well) so that's
what we decided on. She looked up the weather, said we are due a bit of rain but it's ok, I've got a new waterproof mac...Planned to see quite a few things in the area. I said I'd drive and pay for the petrol, my treat, (she doesn't drive anyway)
I should have realised as soon as got there.. what the day would be like.. she started loading her stuff into my bag, without asking first, as didn't want to carry it (glass bottles of water etc.. I carry a big bag as have a camera.. I really don't want heavy and unsafe bottles in there!)
If you know the village you'll know where the 'rooty' trees are, and one way to reach them is on an exposed ridge around the field edge. This is when it decided to rain...didn't bother me at all, in a flimsy strappy dress it felt great after weeks of heat. Friend gets her mac out... and instantly discovers it's just a windcheater, not in the slightest water repellant.
She literally stood on the ridge, screaming and shouting to the skies like a mad woman, cursing and yelling that she was going to get a cold, she'd be guaranteed to catch a cold...she'd go home ill or get ill once back.. I was just trying to usher her
to the trees which are pretty dense and sheltered under them. She didn't budge.. just stood there shouting, getting more and more wet. Quite the spectacle and not seen her throw a tantrum like this since childhood..
I told her, you can't catch a cold from rain alone.. this angered her, she said 'well I DO' and I remembered that, well, if anyone can, she will.. (we both have
compromised immune systems but hers is, in theory, more serious than mine..)and I knew if she got cold and sat around after in wet clothes, she would start feeling unwell.
Eventually (too late) she gets under the trees with me.. I'm trying to find the driest spot for her... and this woman appears out from one of the trees..
Doing this passive aggressive, pleading /prayer thing with her hands, saying
we've ruined her meditation, it's a quiet place, it's a sacred place, we have to be quiet. I told her I wasn't the one who had been raising my voice, I've been visiting there for over 30 yrs, it's a public place and I was merely trying to help
friend find a dry spot as was worried about her (I was at no point yelling but do talk louder to friend as she is partially deaf and also has tinnitus)
I ended up between two yelling woman.. one cursing the weather and the other ranting about needing peace and to be alone for her meditation . (NOT that they were siding with each other, thankfully!)
Friend and me ended up having hot meals at pub, she dried out quick but cancelled all the rest of the day's plans saying she needs to get back, needs to buy some echinacea etc.. all this for 20 minutes of rain and not having the right clothing. She just couldn't turn the situation around...I also had dry clothing in car which she refused saying she was warm and dry again
We bumped into praying woman again who shot us filthy looks and stomped past. All I can say is, I felt a bit of glee when two very loud coach parties of teenagers arrived! (as a pagan I'm extremely respectful of outdoor places.. so to be accused of otherwise is pretty low...)
So I drove over two hours back to mine, ran friend a bath, gave her some luxury bath products and handed her a glass of wine.
But today mulling it over that we weren't even there for long (for five hours driving), and it really seemed I WAS blamed for the weather/ her getting wet/ also her watch got damp and stopped working. etc etc. Because she chose a 'fashion mac' . She lives in a wet country so it's quite puzzling really! and has a dog she walks..
She is flying home today (an hour's flight) and always catches a bug in the cabin, but of course she'll blame this on yesterday and yours truly will get the blame for that.
Her interfering nosey mother will also blame me (I've had a lifetime of her ) and it will be 'Alltoo, why did you let Sally get wet yesterday? ' (not real name)
And she'll address me like I'm sort of weather goddess who can control the elements but chose not to...
Bear in mind friend is 53 ! (she lives with her parents)

I suppose this should really read, AIBU to expect mentally sound adults to accept self responsibility??
As in, you try out rain coat before a trip. You have on you, what you can't live without, etc. You don't say you are fine with the weather forecast and then
throw a huge tantrum on a hillside when it does what it said it would.

I have other friends similar to this and this is why I end up doing everything alone :(
I guess I need to keep these friends for more gentle, indoor activities and get hardier friends, but so hard at my age and I also work antisocial hours.

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alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 15:26

Also.. friend doesn't work.. but for me.. I've worked solidly all summer inc weekends and bank hols.. it was my first day of holiday!

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cocksstrideintheevening · 13/09/2023 15:29

Sounds like hard work. Think you are both making mountains out of nothing.

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 15:31

Well, I wanted it to blow over, 20 mins of rain, so I thought the day could carry on.. but she insisted we drive back even though she'd dried out..I really thought after the meal we'd just carry on and not mention it..but she said she wasn't chancing more rain so I had to take her back

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Hellsbellsandspidersankles · 13/09/2023 15:35

All I can say is, I felt a bit of glee when two very loud coach parties of teenagers arrived!
Really? After your friend behaved like an absolute tit?
You don’t sound any better than she does.

NinaGeiger · 13/09/2023 15:37

It sounds like a nightmare but was quite fun to read.
I would've got annoyed at my bag being overloaded without asking.
Is your friend always like this?

Startyabastard · 13/09/2023 15:38

I suppose this should really read, AIBU to expect mentally sound adults to accept self responsibility??
As in, you try out rain coat before a trip. You have on you, what you can't live without, etc. You don't say you are fine with the weather forecast and then
throw a huge tantrum on a hillside when it does what it said it would.
YANBU.
Her parents sound crazy. Why the hell would they blame you????
It's obvious where your friend's lack of self responsibility comes from.

ditalini · 13/09/2023 15:41

I had a very old friend kind of like this. Then she fell out with me over something.

And I was sad... until I realised that actually my life was just that bit better now - win for me!

So weird how we put up with these people - like a very mild Stockholm Syndrome.

ssd · 13/09/2023 15:44

Good lord. Sometimes i think my life is a bit samey and routine and boring. Then i come onto mn and read quite frankly total gibberish, like this, and i thank god for my mundane life.

VeridicalVagabond · 13/09/2023 15:45

You're a better friend than me, I'd have left her screaming on the hillside like a bloody fruitbat and gone and enjoyed my day out alone.

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 15:47

Friend v v sheltered as often in hospital as a child. Unfortunately the sheltering went on and she's now middle aged. She's actually very capable and used to be tough as old boots, but health issues do have to be considered
Her mother was ringing constantly while friend stayed ie 'has alltoo collected you yet' 'is alltoo taking you to airport' etc etc..
I also remember before they (parents and friend) moved to another country within the UK) her mother actually reprimanded me.. I was in my 40s! that I needed to see my friend more as she was lonely and didn't see friends enough... She spoke like we were ten. We lived in different parts of the country and I was working 6-7 days a week..

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Reddog1 · 13/09/2023 15:47

“Mentally sound?” You’re having a laugh 😂

LakeTiticaca · 13/09/2023 15:47

With friends like her who needs enemies?
😆😅

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 15:49

Ditalini... loyalty I suppose, been friends 48 yrs... had good times.. but...
also a lifetime of her interfering, suffocating mother often came with that

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Sparkletastic · 13/09/2023 15:50

What's the story with an unemployed 53 year old living with her parents?

She does not sound like great friend material. I'd be leaving that one to wither on the vine.

FOJN · 13/09/2023 15:51

I have other friends similar to this...

Really? Fully grown women who make a habit of toddler worthy temper tantrums? You must have the patience of a saint. I'd have left her standing there and buggered off. I could not respect a friend who behaves like that.

Why do you need to these friends for indoor activities? Get rid and find some same, grown up friends. Let the tantrum throwers keep each other company.

As for the meditating lady.... FFS, I wouldn't have engaged, you were not the person making a racket.

It's quite depressing to think of a 53 year old woman behaving with so little self control or dignity.

FictionalCharacter · 13/09/2023 15:51

Hopefully you’ve learned from this! Mistake #1 was allowing her to stay at her insistence when you weren’t ready for guests. Why did you put her wishes above yours?

Mistake #2 was letting her put her stuff in your bag (and who takes a glass bottle on a walk?). Just say no, you’ll need to take your own bag.

Then you reward her for her ridiculous tantrum with a hot pub meals, actually running a bath for her (is she too special to turn taps herself?), giving her your nice bath products and handing her wine.

So she will feel that she’s entirely correct and entitled to be waited on by you.
The next mistake would be letting her do it ever again.
She deserves a proper bollocking for the tantrum.

ArcaneWireless · 13/09/2023 15:52

I’d no longer be arsed enough to have her visit.

She can shout at weather at home.

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 15:52

Sparkletastic... working is exhausting for her, she does do a bit of volunteering.
I have an exhausting condition and also an exhausting job but, she is a heart patient and her parents enable her to take life at a slower pace.
I think she's actually bored shitless..

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SundayCherry · 13/09/2023 15:53

It does sound like she’s annoying but I think delving into her childhood history of illnesses and saying she lives with her parents etc is a bit cruel and irrelevant! Just sounds like you’re airing her dirty laundry now

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 15:55

I'm not criticising living with parents.. she'd be happier with independant living though, I'm sure...
I mentioned childhood as to why they are protective. And friends have been protective of her because of that..just the role we fell into

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Upsizer · 13/09/2023 15:56

Hahaha I’m sorry OP but this story made me laugh! It sounds like a menopausal sitcom.

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 15:56

Fictional, I was just trying to be a caring friend, and rise above it.
Kinda bit me on the arse, though...
Also because I hadn't seen her for ages.. making effort

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WhatWhereWho · 13/09/2023 15:56

She does not sound too well and you do not sound too pleasant either.

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 15:57

Upsizer true, and I'm not even vaguely menopausal yet! She came through the other side ages ago though.. yes it does read as that

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Everanewbie · 13/09/2023 15:57

Sounds like a sitcom to me. A, woman having a tantrum, a hippy having their meditation disturbed, woman playing the everywoman getting shouted at from both sides? I'm surprised the bath didn't fall through the ceiling and slide down the street or something. I'd have loved to have witnessed this spectacle, sounds very Vicar of Dibley or Last of the summer wine