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to say that two crazy women ruined day out

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alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 15:23

I'll probably be told, why did you let them?
But I didn't really have a choice.
And one was one of my oldest friends.

Friend came to stay for two nights, I wasn't guest ready at all as still moving into new home, bit chaotic but she wanted to regardless so we agreed we'd get out of house yesterday

She's always wanted to go to Avebury (somewhere I know very well) so that's
what we decided on. She looked up the weather, said we are due a bit of rain but it's ok, I've got a new waterproof mac...Planned to see quite a few things in the area. I said I'd drive and pay for the petrol, my treat, (she doesn't drive anyway)
I should have realised as soon as got there.. what the day would be like.. she started loading her stuff into my bag, without asking first, as didn't want to carry it (glass bottles of water etc.. I carry a big bag as have a camera.. I really don't want heavy and unsafe bottles in there!)
If you know the village you'll know where the 'rooty' trees are, and one way to reach them is on an exposed ridge around the field edge. This is when it decided to rain...didn't bother me at all, in a flimsy strappy dress it felt great after weeks of heat. Friend gets her mac out... and instantly discovers it's just a windcheater, not in the slightest water repellant.
She literally stood on the ridge, screaming and shouting to the skies like a mad woman, cursing and yelling that she was going to get a cold, she'd be guaranteed to catch a cold...she'd go home ill or get ill once back.. I was just trying to usher her
to the trees which are pretty dense and sheltered under them. She didn't budge.. just stood there shouting, getting more and more wet. Quite the spectacle and not seen her throw a tantrum like this since childhood..
I told her, you can't catch a cold from rain alone.. this angered her, she said 'well I DO' and I remembered that, well, if anyone can, she will.. (we both have
compromised immune systems but hers is, in theory, more serious than mine..)and I knew if she got cold and sat around after in wet clothes, she would start feeling unwell.
Eventually (too late) she gets under the trees with me.. I'm trying to find the driest spot for her... and this woman appears out from one of the trees..
Doing this passive aggressive, pleading /prayer thing with her hands, saying
we've ruined her meditation, it's a quiet place, it's a sacred place, we have to be quiet. I told her I wasn't the one who had been raising my voice, I've been visiting there for over 30 yrs, it's a public place and I was merely trying to help
friend find a dry spot as was worried about her (I was at no point yelling but do talk louder to friend as she is partially deaf and also has tinnitus)
I ended up between two yelling woman.. one cursing the weather and the other ranting about needing peace and to be alone for her meditation . (NOT that they were siding with each other, thankfully!)
Friend and me ended up having hot meals at pub, she dried out quick but cancelled all the rest of the day's plans saying she needs to get back, needs to buy some echinacea etc.. all this for 20 minutes of rain and not having the right clothing. She just couldn't turn the situation around...I also had dry clothing in car which she refused saying she was warm and dry again
We bumped into praying woman again who shot us filthy looks and stomped past. All I can say is, I felt a bit of glee when two very loud coach parties of teenagers arrived! (as a pagan I'm extremely respectful of outdoor places.. so to be accused of otherwise is pretty low...)
So I drove over two hours back to mine, ran friend a bath, gave her some luxury bath products and handed her a glass of wine.
But today mulling it over that we weren't even there for long (for five hours driving), and it really seemed I WAS blamed for the weather/ her getting wet/ also her watch got damp and stopped working. etc etc. Because she chose a 'fashion mac' . She lives in a wet country so it's quite puzzling really! and has a dog she walks..
She is flying home today (an hour's flight) and always catches a bug in the cabin, but of course she'll blame this on yesterday and yours truly will get the blame for that.
Her interfering nosey mother will also blame me (I've had a lifetime of her ) and it will be 'Alltoo, why did you let Sally get wet yesterday? ' (not real name)
And she'll address me like I'm sort of weather goddess who can control the elements but chose not to...
Bear in mind friend is 53 ! (she lives with her parents)

I suppose this should really read, AIBU to expect mentally sound adults to accept self responsibility??
As in, you try out rain coat before a trip. You have on you, what you can't live without, etc. You don't say you are fine with the weather forecast and then
throw a huge tantrum on a hillside when it does what it said it would.

I have other friends similar to this and this is why I end up doing everything alone :(
I guess I need to keep these friends for more gentle, indoor activities and get hardier friends, but so hard at my age and I also work antisocial hours.

OP posts:
alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 17:04

I adore Nuts In May!

Fuckthat, you'd be welcome!

Topnoddy, very very true indeed..

Lentil, I recently left DV and could have moved anywhere. Instead of going to, say, hometown, I have gone to an area where I know no one. ( I could have also stayed put, as ex moved away) For me, it was away from anyone toxic , dramatic, draining.. not just where I lived with him

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OhNoForever · 13/09/2023 17:04

To be fair to the hippy, it is a sacred site and it annoys me when people treat them with so much less respect than they would a church... Unless your pal has visited the sistine chapel?

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 17:05

heheh the Sistine Chapel did spring to mind.
I was going to visit Avebury alone. I do most things alone anyway, and certainly wish I had (I honestly enjoy my own company) I really was trying to be a good friend.. sigh.

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BirdiePlantaganet · 13/09/2023 17:07

What a long and tedious post. Dump the friend. Move on.

WallaceinAnderland · 13/09/2023 17:15

I love Alison Steadman in Nuts in May.

to say that two crazy women ruined day out
alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 17:18

Alison Steadman is amazing in everything but especially in that

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newnamethanks · 13/09/2023 17:18

You need new friends. And so do they.

Lentilweaver · 13/09/2023 17:19

I am sorry to hear of your situation, OP. I have moved around a lot myself, and recently had a thread on making new friends later in life. I am in London, so things that have worked for me are Meetup, walking and other hobby groups, volunteering and starting my own book club ( limping along but still alive) Not sure if any of those work for you. In your situation, you will need peace and non-draining company more than ever.

Stressyfab · 13/09/2023 17:21

OP- I completely sympathise! I had a friend who sounds like she was in a similar position to yours. It’s ooc for me to be a doormat, but I found myself doing loads for her and in some odd situations.
I totally get the frustration, you needed that vent! I feel for now you should maybe keep her arms length for your own sanity. If her family bother you I agree with PP, you’ll have to tell them politely but firmly she’s an adult and none of this was your fault.
I must admit it gave me a giggle - but in your shoes I wouldn’t be laughing! You’re not being cruel as others have suggested, just human.

StoneWitch · 13/09/2023 17:22

Ditch your ridiculous friend, and stop playing the mug.

mondaytosunday · 13/09/2023 17:23

I was once blamed for letting my friends daughter sit in a puddle while her mother was standing right next to her! I mean she literally said 'why did you let her get wet'? I also got blamed for her son (5) wetting the bed because i didn't make sure he'd been to the toilet first (we were on holiday together). I didn't have kids then, she had gone to sleep on the couch so I put her kids to bed and assumed they'd know well enough what to do to get ready at that age (daughter was 7).
I cooled things after that to be honest.

ratspeaker · 13/09/2023 17:25

If her mum starts with why did you let her get wet turn it round, why did you let her go on holiday without an umbrella, a good raincoat…

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 17:26

The tantrum WAS out of character for her otherwise I'd never have made a post. It really was farcical, her standing on a hillside ranting to the skies like
that then minutes later (I DID leave her there and go shelter!) the hippie started her own rant. I mean I'd sought refuge from the rain and from friend suddenly turning mad, for the hippie to pop out of nowhere and launch at me with prayer hands! No escape. Should have fled to pub and left them to it BUT I had expensive camera to consider and keep dry... so there I was stuck in the middle of both of them... under the drips.. knowing I should have just dumped her at Primark or the cinema for the day where she'd no doubt have been happier, and gone out alone...

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tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 13/09/2023 17:27

cocksstrideintheevening · 13/09/2023 15:29

Sounds like hard work. Think you are both making mountains out of nothing.

To be fair to OP she's making a mountain out of friend imposing when she's not long moved in, driving a fair distance in one day (this is tiring) and friend acting like a 5 year old then happily letting OP wait on her at home too

Granted she could have said no to these things but some people are overly assertive, lack awareness and ideas of boundaries so I imagine this would have been very hard work ...

Stephy1886 · 13/09/2023 17:29

Fookin hell

also, who says “I’ll pay for petrol my treat”

FictionalCharacter · 13/09/2023 17:29

Ffs can people NOT blame bizarre behaviour and unhinged shrieking on the menopause? Almost every post in which a woman behaves badly or oddly, or is upset or has a mental health problem, is met with “are you menopausal? Could it be meno?”
Reading MN would make people think that menopause turns women into fuzzy-brained, overemotional, hysterical harpies. It is definitely a difficult time for some of us - not all - but it’s wrong to suggest that menopause turns us all gaga.
It’s equally wrong to dismiss our emotions or feelings of injustice as being caused by raging or plummeting hormones.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 13/09/2023 17:29

Hellsbellsandspidersankles · 13/09/2023 15:35

All I can say is, I felt a bit of glee when two very loud coach parties of teenagers arrived!
Really? After your friend behaved like an absolute tit?
You don’t sound any better than she does.

She's just saying she had an internal "sod you " moment which I think many of us do when we're at the end of our tether Grin

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 13/09/2023 17:30

Upsizer · 13/09/2023 15:56

Hahaha I’m sorry OP but this story made me laugh! It sounds like a menopausal sitcom.

It does Grin

travelogue · 13/09/2023 17:31

Your friend doesn't sound mentally sound to me - at least not in that moment - the whole thing sounds absolutely bonkers! And then a random hippy emerging from the woods to give you another bollocking? And a controlling mother helicopter parenting a 53 year old woman added to the mix? Are you sure you aren't writing a sitcom?!

Hopefully you will all laugh about it in future when friend comes to her senses - although I'm not convinced this is likely. I also hope you find some less alarming people to hang out with v soon!

Dillane · 13/09/2023 17:32

I’m not convinced your friend is particularly ‘mentally sound’ OP.

pictoosh · 13/09/2023 17:33

Lentilweaver · 13/09/2023 16:56

I have said this on another thread- and someone said I sounded very unpleasant- but as I get older, I simply have zero time or energy for high maintenance people. My DC are high maintenance enough. What I want from friendships now is just easy, pleasant conversations and no drama whatsoever.

God yes.

I used to be so accommodating and open-minded about other people's high maintenance foibles but now at the age of 48? NOPE.
Can't be arsed. Behave or fuck off.

FairyPolka · 13/09/2023 17:37

What a pathetic, spoilt drama queen. Don’t be friends with her.

threecupsofteaminimum · 13/09/2023 17:42

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 16:34

Sherbet, that made me laugh as 'what a palaver' were the first words I ever spoke as a baby

Course they were

pictoosh · 13/09/2023 17:47

As an asides, as a hillwalker with decent, functional kit, I notice what some people will buy as a 'waterproof'. I don't say anything because it's not for me to patronise people on what to buy, but I know it's a flimsy fashion item and they're going to get wet.

Tip: Matalan, Next, Primark and H&M do not sell waterproofs. It may say 'showerproof' or 'water resistant' on the label but those vague claims are simple marketing terms...not the same as 'waterproof' which means what it says. These things are not going to keep anyone dry in a downpour or a day outside in the rain. It's for a dash from the car to the front door at Tesco and nothing more.

Bookish88 · 13/09/2023 17:49

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 15:31

Well, I wanted it to blow over, 20 mins of rain, so I thought the day could carry on.. but she insisted we drive back even though she'd dried out..I really thought after the meal we'd just carry on and not mention it..but she said she wasn't chancing more rain so I had to take her back

She couldn't insist on anything. She wasn't driving. Don't be a martyr.

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