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to say that two crazy women ruined day out

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alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 15:23

I'll probably be told, why did you let them?
But I didn't really have a choice.
And one was one of my oldest friends.

Friend came to stay for two nights, I wasn't guest ready at all as still moving into new home, bit chaotic but she wanted to regardless so we agreed we'd get out of house yesterday

She's always wanted to go to Avebury (somewhere I know very well) so that's
what we decided on. She looked up the weather, said we are due a bit of rain but it's ok, I've got a new waterproof mac...Planned to see quite a few things in the area. I said I'd drive and pay for the petrol, my treat, (she doesn't drive anyway)
I should have realised as soon as got there.. what the day would be like.. she started loading her stuff into my bag, without asking first, as didn't want to carry it (glass bottles of water etc.. I carry a big bag as have a camera.. I really don't want heavy and unsafe bottles in there!)
If you know the village you'll know where the 'rooty' trees are, and one way to reach them is on an exposed ridge around the field edge. This is when it decided to rain...didn't bother me at all, in a flimsy strappy dress it felt great after weeks of heat. Friend gets her mac out... and instantly discovers it's just a windcheater, not in the slightest water repellant.
She literally stood on the ridge, screaming and shouting to the skies like a mad woman, cursing and yelling that she was going to get a cold, she'd be guaranteed to catch a cold...she'd go home ill or get ill once back.. I was just trying to usher her
to the trees which are pretty dense and sheltered under them. She didn't budge.. just stood there shouting, getting more and more wet. Quite the spectacle and not seen her throw a tantrum like this since childhood..
I told her, you can't catch a cold from rain alone.. this angered her, she said 'well I DO' and I remembered that, well, if anyone can, she will.. (we both have
compromised immune systems but hers is, in theory, more serious than mine..)and I knew if she got cold and sat around after in wet clothes, she would start feeling unwell.
Eventually (too late) she gets under the trees with me.. I'm trying to find the driest spot for her... and this woman appears out from one of the trees..
Doing this passive aggressive, pleading /prayer thing with her hands, saying
we've ruined her meditation, it's a quiet place, it's a sacred place, we have to be quiet. I told her I wasn't the one who had been raising my voice, I've been visiting there for over 30 yrs, it's a public place and I was merely trying to help
friend find a dry spot as was worried about her (I was at no point yelling but do talk louder to friend as she is partially deaf and also has tinnitus)
I ended up between two yelling woman.. one cursing the weather and the other ranting about needing peace and to be alone for her meditation . (NOT that they were siding with each other, thankfully!)
Friend and me ended up having hot meals at pub, she dried out quick but cancelled all the rest of the day's plans saying she needs to get back, needs to buy some echinacea etc.. all this for 20 minutes of rain and not having the right clothing. She just couldn't turn the situation around...I also had dry clothing in car which she refused saying she was warm and dry again
We bumped into praying woman again who shot us filthy looks and stomped past. All I can say is, I felt a bit of glee when two very loud coach parties of teenagers arrived! (as a pagan I'm extremely respectful of outdoor places.. so to be accused of otherwise is pretty low...)
So I drove over two hours back to mine, ran friend a bath, gave her some luxury bath products and handed her a glass of wine.
But today mulling it over that we weren't even there for long (for five hours driving), and it really seemed I WAS blamed for the weather/ her getting wet/ also her watch got damp and stopped working. etc etc. Because she chose a 'fashion mac' . She lives in a wet country so it's quite puzzling really! and has a dog she walks..
She is flying home today (an hour's flight) and always catches a bug in the cabin, but of course she'll blame this on yesterday and yours truly will get the blame for that.
Her interfering nosey mother will also blame me (I've had a lifetime of her ) and it will be 'Alltoo, why did you let Sally get wet yesterday? ' (not real name)
And she'll address me like I'm sort of weather goddess who can control the elements but chose not to...
Bear in mind friend is 53 ! (she lives with her parents)

I suppose this should really read, AIBU to expect mentally sound adults to accept self responsibility??
As in, you try out rain coat before a trip. You have on you, what you can't live without, etc. You don't say you are fine with the weather forecast and then
throw a huge tantrum on a hillside when it does what it said it would.

I have other friends similar to this and this is why I end up doing everything alone :(
I guess I need to keep these friends for more gentle, indoor activities and get hardier friends, but so hard at my age and I also work antisocial hours.

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drinkuptheezider · 13/09/2023 16:25

Sounds really funny, comedy, stuff although Avebury always reminds me of Children of the Stones. I needto go there again!

Densol57 · 13/09/2023 16:30

Image reply 😂

to say that two crazy women ruined day out
SherbetLemonn · 13/09/2023 16:31

What an absolute palaver about fuck all… all three of you 🤣

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 16:34

Sherbet, that made me laugh as 'what a palaver' were the first words I ever spoke as a baby

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WallaceinAnderland · 13/09/2023 16:37

I'll probably be told, why did you let them?
But I didn't really have a choice.

You did though. No one be putting their heavy stuff in my bag or making me go home early.

SomeCatFromJapan · 13/09/2023 16:38

You all sound bonkers, but quite funny.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 13/09/2023 16:39

OP.
I agree with @Joolsin - you do sound like a very kind friend - in fact too kind and I felt sorry when you said you have other friends like this and end up doing things alone. You need to think of ways to change that, because you do deserve better.

You thought you were doing everything you could to make Sally happy and it backfired. I think it sounds like it is very very hard to make Sally happy.

You were trying to be kind, but it reads as if you were also continuously indulging her and pandering to her time after time as much as her parents do, and not only that you were so nervous that you were walking on eggshells in case she exploded. Which she did. Over nothing. Before the Meditation lady even came along. Screaming and blaming you for the weather and her own lack of proper clothing.

She is an absolute child and most people wouldn't even indulge their primary school kids like that. Sally has got you all terrified of her temper.

It's not surprising that this happens when her indulgent mother rings up and ropes you in, telling you off for not spending enough time with her. It sounds like she's been doing this for years. You do not work for Sally or her mother.

The most telling phrase for me was you were worried about her mother's reaction and anticipating a call saying "'Alltoo, why did you let Sally get wet yesterday? "

You didn't let her get wet! Both she and her mother regard you as some sort of caretaker. For that, you don't seem to get much gratitude from either and the friend isn't even polite to you, and you anticipate a ticking off from her Mum for not doing your "job" properly. She has been infantilised.

Clearly, your friend has issues, so it's hard to know how far you can go in discussing this with her, or whether you want to continue a very difficult relationship, but you should resolve not to allow her DM to talk to you as if she's your head teacher reprimanding you for a badly done task! Her mum should try and get her some therapy - what future does your friend have otherwise? What if her parents start to need care as they age and she has no independence to look after herself or abilities to help them. Those days might not be that far off.

I hope you manage to make some new friendships in your new area which are more of a two-way street.

10HailMarys · 13/09/2023 16:39

Your friend is, basically, mad.

The meditation woman is also mad if she thinks she can expect silence at Avebury. The stone circle literally has a road running through the middle of it, and the stones encircle half the village. It’s not an isolated place of worship; it’s a historic monument that coexists with modern daily life.

Topseyt123 · 13/09/2023 16:42

Upsizer · 13/09/2023 15:56

Hahaha I’m sorry OP but this story made me laugh! It sounds like a menopausal sitcom.

Me too, and at 57 I am certainly menopausal. I just have a mental image of the praying woman and the shrieking friend in my head now.

Oh, and stop pandering to this idiotic "friend" who sounds so much like hard work.

EdgeK · 13/09/2023 16:44

You both sound awful. Sue Townsend characters.

boromu222 · 13/09/2023 16:44

EdgeK · 13/09/2023 16:44

You both sound awful. Sue Townsend characters.

OP does not in the slightest sound awful. What are you talking about?

Fuckthatguy · 13/09/2023 16:49

Brilliant, can I come along on the next day out please.

GoryBory · 13/09/2023 16:49

The maddest part of this is you being so passive and treating her like a child.

You didn’t want any guests to stay because you’d just moved in - but you let her anyway.

You didn’t want anything heavy or liquids in your bag - put you let her put it in anyway.

I don’t understand why wouldn’t have just said no.

And if my friend started screaming I would have told her to calm down and get under the shelter and if she didn’t listen I would have walked off and stood in the dry without her.

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 16:50

Thankyou, Boromu, it really was my intention to give her a lovely day out as she'd always wanted to go
She doesn't really have a temper...that's why it was so startling! but then the last decade I've not been around her.. maybe something has really changed..

1ohailmarys, it's an incredibly busy road isn't it!

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Illtakethatnowalan · 13/09/2023 16:50

What is it with the made up nutty friend posts today?? 😂😂

Topseyt123 · 13/09/2023 16:50

EdgeK · 13/09/2023 16:44

You both sound awful. Sue Townsend characters.

OP certainly doesn't sound awful! Amusing and put upon maybe, but not awful!

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 16:50

I removed the items from my bag...she had put them in while I was sorting out parking

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Lentilweaver · 13/09/2023 16:51

You don't have to put up with friends like these. Join a walking group. Make new, less hypochondriac friends.

alltoomuchrightnow · 13/09/2023 16:53

Lentil.. every intention of this.

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Lentilweaver · 13/09/2023 16:56

I have said this on another thread- and someone said I sounded very unpleasant- but as I get older, I simply have zero time or energy for high maintenance people. My DC are high maintenance enough. What I want from friendships now is just easy, pleasant conversations and no drama whatsoever.

SummerDawn2000 · 13/09/2023 16:57

@alltoomuchrightnow op you sound like a really lovely friend. I’d love to have a friend like you. Hope your DF is ok. Yeh she over reacted horrendously. Really she should apologise for being a tool and paid a bit toward petrol.

topnoddy · 13/09/2023 16:57

I'd let her be in future , sounds way too much like hard work

It's the the lay lines at Avebury , does funny things to ya melon

oakleaffy · 13/09/2023 17:00

Nuts in May

Watch it!
197O’s film

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 13/09/2023 17:03

Oh ‘Nuts In May’ is just glorious!

‘Kiss Pwudence, Keith’.

Rejected12 · 13/09/2023 17:03

Mirabai · 13/09/2023 16:07

Sounds like Victoria Wood meets League of Gentlemen.

I was thinking of King Lear.

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