to think that 4x4 drivers are the most selfish w@*&(*&s ever???

[redrobin]

It makes my blood boil! They drive their big childcrushers whilst on the phone, they tailgate other smaller cars, they use enormous amounts of petrol, they block up roads, they look threatening...how can people choose to drive something like that? Do they have ha a selfish gene, do they think they are just better than other people so rules don't apply to them, or are they just thick?

(NOTE this is only about town drivers, i appreciate that they are useful in the countryside).

Sometimes, I think Jeremy Clarkson is winning.

I have ds (virtually 4) and ds 2 17 weeks. It will only fit the quinny zap buggy in the boot. Will keep the big truck for days out, motorway + travelling with the 2 dogs (1 has to travel in his cage)

My ex's mum towed a horsebox with her landy and strong winds flipped it over..

I went over the lovely Thelwall Viaduct in Warrington a few weeks ago in strong winds and thought I was going to tip over

Am v about muppetgirls new mini !!

But as DD is 6 and DS is 3 and no real need for buggy etc anymore maybe a mini can be put on my list!!!

FOUR PAGES debating the self evident point that a 4x4 is completely pointless and possibly dangerous in town?

Anyone who owns a 4x4 in town and even attempts to argue against that is deluded.

And I speak as a 4x4 driver (a very muddy one, regularly containing my 4 kids and 2 dogs and towing a horsebox... but living in the country)

whoops I mean FIVE

Recent research shows 4x4 drivers are 30% LESS likely to be involved in an accident.Better visibility and can see much further down the road so anticipate hazards better - so they are not all a bad thing.

Worse outcome for others involved in any accident in the first place obviously.

link to the research, please.

and seriously, in towns it's more likely to be kids running out between parked cars, no one has good visibility for that, it's just life. the good thing is that if you're not driving a childcrusher you are less likely to have a death on your conscience.

in towns they are just f*ING STUPID (pls excuse swearing/yelling, I have just been stuck behind several this morning as they 'manoeuvred' their hideous juggernaut vehicles around cars parked on either side of suburban streets)

I think they exist just so that the drivers can feel as if they are above the rest of us. And for that reason alone I would not be at all bothered if they were banned

my 4x4 beeps if there is anything behind it, I think it would be almost impossible for me to reverse over a small child

and I must say I don't see why a vast people carrier like one of those tin can Chrysler Voyagers is meant to be any safer for anyone...

Now there is a bloke at my dc's school (very rural, long thin winding drive up to drop-off) who drives a HUMMER. A LEFT HAND DRIVE FIRE ENGINE RED HUMMER. Every time I see him I want to go up to him and ask him if he realises that every sane person in England thinks he is a selfish stupid arsehole for driving such a wanky child-killing idiotic machine. But I don't. I just shoot him daggers.

It takes up the WHOLE width of the drive, he can't see anything over the bonnet, it is 2ce as high as anything else, it has BULLBARS fgs, and the lhd means if he pulls out he can see even less because he is on the wrong side of the bloody tank.

GRRRRRRRRRR

lol. arsehole.
there's a guy on our street with one of those trucks that makes cartoon characters piss their pants. he's an architect, wears a suit, takes the underground to the office because they don't have parking.
so it just sits there, waiting for people to scratch it. i do pmsl when i see it. it's so wide that the wing mirror is constantly broken by other 4x4s zooming up the street, oh irony of ironies.

"When your car determines the extent of the injury suffered then that responsibility lies with you."

As DuchessOfNorksBride pointed out, there are plenty of non 4x4 cars which perform badly in terms of pedestrian safety. There are even some which come out worse.

His tyres are practically bigger than me.
I want the headmaster to ban him from using the drive but I don't suppose that's going to happen.

Actually I just REALLY want to ask him if his cock is as tiny as we all assume it is, looking at his car, but I can't.

The headmaster is probably scared the hummer will flatten his own car.

(Is it coincidence that Hummer rhymes with Dumber?)

I'm a bit confuddled. What is specifically about a vehicle having 4WDrive that makes it more unacceptable than a big Volvo estate?

oh you must.

it's that you don't look like an arsehole driving a volvo in the city.

to answert the OP, no 4x4 drivers are not the most selfish w@&(&s ever. That would be my drink driving, drug taking exP of a few years ago. He drove an old Rolls but I think that was coincidental, he would have been a selfish w@&(& whatever he had driven.

"you don't look like an arsehole driving a volvo in the city"

Yes you do.

No, seriously. Do 4x4s have bigger engines than Volvo estates? Are they more dangerous? Bigger polluters?

Height of bumper and child's head, mainly I think.

Or is this really just about how it looks to drive an off-road vehicle on-road, cos that's a bit of an odd thing to call selfish...

most 4x4s are much more gas-guzzling than something like a volvo estate too. i have to concur with the opening post.