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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Or is this an overreaction to kid getting injured?

120 replies

Goldfishonabike · 12/09/2023 07:21

DS just started reception (disclaimer - am in Europe so this means kids are 5/6 yrs).
he has been settling well and have bonded with several boys, one of whom we invited over for a playdate on Sunday afternoon. I invited the parents to stay for coffee as first time so thought they may want to get acquainted a bit, but they politely refused and said they’d just drop the boy off. I already met the mum twice at school and had a friendly chat. The dad dropped the boy off and seemed to be in a hurry to leave. The boy played well for about 2 hours (play date was meant to be 2.5 hours), both in the garden and inside, with me keeping an eye on them but not being next to them every single minute. Just 20 mins before the boys pick up
time I was in the loo when I hear a shout and cry and DS comes running and tells me the friend got hurt. I rush to him and see he has banged his head against the radiator which is behind the sofa, bleeding and there is cut. I cuddle him and clean the wound and call the parents immediately and explain and apologize profusely. I can tell the cut will likely need gluing but no stitching, as it’s a bit gaping but not very deep or big. The dad arrives shortly after and seems ok although understandably not happy and worried, together we inspect the wound and DH offers to take them to emergency, but as the dad is on his bike and the live not too far away he says it’s okay and he’ll go home and then take the boy to emergency. All through this both DH and I are being polite, very apologetic and kind to the boy. In my panic I tell the dad that DS once heard his head on the same radiator and I’ve been meaning to move the sofa but haven’t got around to it. (DS hurt his head on it three years ago, we have since hosted hundreds of playdates and no child ever got hurt at our house ever before or even went near the radiator, so I had forgotten about it entirely). Later that evening I text the dad and ask how the boy is and apologize again. No response. The next day there’s a coffee morning in DS’s class, my husband attends and the boy and his parents are there, DH says the dad is chatty and seems ok and tell
him the boy indeed went to A&E and got his wound clued, but the mum is avoiding DH. I then sent her a message last night asking how the boy is and saying I understand his head was glued and I hope he will recover soon and that I’m so sorry her got injured at our house. She only responds hours later with a thumbs up. No words. Now, I’m certain that’s an expression she’s angry with us, and I feel so terrible and worried. I mainly feel really bad a child got injured in my care, but Im not sure there was much I could’ve done different. While it’s true that radiator by the sofa isn’t very safe, I’ve literally hosted 100 of playdates over the years and no kid ever went near it as they usually play in DS’ room. I suppose I could have been more vigilant and ensured that they didn’t go in the living room, but as I was in the loo, I hadn’t noticed that they went in there. I think likely they’re angry because it’s just generally upsetting when your child Gets hurt, especially in someone else’s care, and that perhaps because in my panic I told them that DS also once got hurt there, they think I should’ve thought about keeping the boys away from the sofa, and I do feel terribly guilty that I didn’t think of it, but as mentioned, we have hosted hundreds of playdates and never has anyone got near that radiator, so it just don’t occur to me at all, which is suppose is my fault at some level. However I did apologize several times and do all I could to help, so I don’t understand the mum’s behavior, and am very stressed out about it, especially at the beginning of a new school, when we will have to be in the same class with these parents for years to come, it feels really stressful to start off with an incident like this. Wondering what else I can do at this stage?

OP posts:
Goldfishonabike · 12/09/2023 08:05

Yea you’re right I guess I do, I’m a quite anxious person and very careful with my own kids and especially other people’s kids so feeL mortified at what’s happened, and probably too eager for a sense of all is okay from them, especially as it’s the start of a new school. We usually host a lot of play dates, many kids like coming to our house and on average host 2 play dates probably a week, plus neighbours kids pretty much treat our flat like it’s their second home, so guess I maybe also got a bit too relaxed around play dates

OP posts:
FUPAgirl · 12/09/2023 08:06

Maybe there are other walls in the room that don't have a radiator? I definitely think you are massively overthinking this. They just need a few days to calm down, it will have been horrible for them to hear you admit that you knew the room was dangerous and had intended to do something about it for 3 years but never got round to it.

Just leave them alone and give them time.

Nopenopenopenopenopenope · 12/09/2023 08:06

An overreaction on your part I'm afraid. They haven't even reacted. They're managing their emotions (whatever they are) by creating some distance. If they aren't replying maybe just leave it for a bit?

saraclara · 12/09/2023 08:12

ZadocPDederick · 12/09/2023 08:00

I may be missing something, but I wouldn't take a thumbs up as an expression of annoyance.

I thought it was just me!

I was waiting for the incident that was the over reaction, and it turns out to be a thumbs up?!

Whatswhatwhichiswhich · 12/09/2023 08:14

I don’t think she’s over reacted, shes remained a damn sight calmer than I would have. Yes accidents happen but as this one had already happened to your DS you should have addressed it years ago and this one would have been prevented.

Sayitaintso33 · 12/09/2023 08:29

I think the mother is being rude and precious.

But then I broke my arm on a playdate. Looking back I can't imagine how terrible my friend's mum must have felt - it wasn't her fault though.

LakeTiticaca · 12/09/2023 08:29

I'm a bit confused. If the radiator is BEHIND the sofa, how did the child hit his head? What was he doing?

Quiverer · 12/09/2023 08:31

Sayitaintso33 · 12/09/2023 08:29

I think the mother is being rude and precious.

But then I broke my arm on a playdate. Looking back I can't imagine how terrible my friend's mum must have felt - it wasn't her fault though.

Huh? How is a thumbs up rude or precious?

Whatswhatwhichiswhich · 12/09/2023 08:38

@LakeTiticaca the OP meant to move the sofa in front of the radiator when the first accident occurred 3 years ago but ended up not bothering. There was nothing covering the radiator to prevent a second accident.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 12/09/2023 08:44

"I tell the dad that DS once heard his head on the same radiator and I’ve been meaning to move the sofa but haven’t got around to it. "

This is why she is pissed off. You knew it was a hazard to the point where your own son was injured and you have done nothing to address this. Your follow up post shows its not possible due to rented house, layout etc but this sounds like you just couldn't be arsed.

User3735 · 12/09/2023 08:46

A thumbs up on its own is absolutely a well known passive aggressive reaction. I never use the thumbs up emoji now incase it is taken the wrong way. I think the mum is being rude, accidents happen. The were rude not to come in and have a coffee. I don't tend to bond well worn parents who don't care about getting to know other parents and who are overly precious about accidents so at least you know now these are not the kind of people you want as best friends.

Quartz2208 · 12/09/2023 08:50

Op not everyone has to like you and be your friend. From the beginning of not staying the parents set out their boundaries of being happy the boys are friends but not wanting to stay.

move on, it was an accident and not everyone is going to be your friend

Goldfishonabike · 12/09/2023 08:52

The sofa is against the wall. Behind the sofa is the radiator. The sofa’s back is lower than the radiator. We usually move the sofa away from the radiator a bit so there is a gap but as time goes on it moves back against the radiator which is what had happened. The issue can be easily solved by moving the sofa away from the radiator so there is a small gap and then telling kids not to play on the sofa. In this instance, I forgot to move the sofa and forgot to tell them not to play on it, due to being busy and tired as I’m sure many of us are at times. I realize that was an oversight which certainly will never happen again. There is no where else for this sofa to be due to the layout of the room which has many doors and windows.

I guess that I am also reading too much into the thumbs up and thank you for pointing that out to me! There is also I think an issue of culture at okay here, as DH, me, and the boy’s parents are all different nationalities/cultures (mixed couples) and all communicating in English which is none of our native language and I guess I’m not certain what’s expected in the mum’s culture, it’s not a culture I know so well. The kids are in international school, so the class is very multicultural and Iberians I think it adds an extra layer of complications to interactions.

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AnneLovesGilbert · 12/09/2023 08:53

How is she rude?! She’s acknowledged the message. OP wants them to tell her they’re not unhappy at all, it’s fine, she’s not to blame etc etc. That’s very understandably probably not how they feel. They’re not threatening to sue her, that would be an overreaction. They’ve barely reacted at all!

maddening · 12/09/2023 08:54

Ffs no radiator is more dangerous than another - don't overthink it imo, you have responded and dealt with the situation appropriately and apologised.

Toonali8 · 12/09/2023 08:55

I would interpret the thumbs up as a sign that she doesn’t want to talk to you right now. She isn’t going to say oh don’t worry it’s fine, because it isn’t, her child needed his head gluing, it’s not easily forgotten. Yes it was a mistake and yes it could happen in their care, but it didn’t, so she will just need time. I wouldn’t carry on apologising and chasing her, that would piss me off.

ZadocPDederick · 12/09/2023 08:58

User3735 · 12/09/2023 08:46

A thumbs up on its own is absolutely a well known passive aggressive reaction. I never use the thumbs up emoji now incase it is taken the wrong way. I think the mum is being rude, accidents happen. The were rude not to come in and have a coffee. I don't tend to bond well worn parents who don't care about getting to know other parents and who are overly precious about accidents so at least you know now these are not the kind of people you want as best friends.

Certainly not for everyone. On my various WhatsApp groups etc, thumbs up emojis are used to signal things like a proposed date or time for a meet-up being fine. If we want to be shitty or passive aggressive, I guess we would just use our words.

Goldfishonabike · 12/09/2023 09:01

@User3735 and @Quartz2208 yes not everyone has to be your friend I agree and get that. I’m happy for kids to have friends where I’m not friendly with the parents. But I think it’s better if you are - this incident just proves it! Accidents can happen, conflicts between kids can happen, misunderstandings etc. if you’re on friendly terms with the parents - don’t need to be best friends but just friendly to the extent that you come in for a coffee on the very first play date and spend five mins chatting at pick up and drop
off, that’s a way to create community around your kids and help to
solve things if incidents occur. I totally get it not everyone is like that, and of course I’m not going to stop
imvitkg kids over on account if their reserved parents, or accepting play date invites by parents who don’t want to be friendly (I’m taking one coffee at first play date and friendly chit chat, no more) but this incident has reminded me why I usually prefer parents who are more open. At the end of the day, the kids I feel
comfortable to eg have for a sleep over are the ones where I have a sense of their home and parents so I know what’s expected from the parents side and if - God forbid - something should go wrong, as it did this time, and truly, for the first time ever in experience of hosting playdates for my now 9 year old DD and 6 years old DS, then you know the lanterns well enough to sort it out.

well I think I learned some lessons
1- move the sofa away from the walls and ban kids from playing on it
2-don’t expect others to soothe my anxiety and accept people are different
3-don’t accept kids into my home without knowing the parents better

OP posts:
zozueme · 12/09/2023 09:04

Just move on. Stop apologising. You made the mistake of suggesting the accident was foreseeable and preventable, but that you didn't get round to moving the sofa. I suspect the parents would feel happier without that information! (Or, of course, you could have just moved the sofa if you did seemingly think it was dangerous.)

Sayitaintso33 · 12/09/2023 09:08

AnneLovesGilbert · 12/09/2023 08:53

How is she rude?! She’s acknowledged the message. OP wants them to tell her they’re not unhappy at all, it’s fine, she’s not to blame etc etc. That’s very understandably probably not how they feel. They’re not threatening to sue her, that would be an overreaction. They’ve barely reacted at all!

What a cold word acknowledge is. That in itself suggest rudeness.

The other mother (OM) is being rude because she knows the OP feels bad and OM is neither answering the questions asked nor telling OP all will be fine and not to worry.

It would be so easy for the OM to text something short but reassuring, thereby informing the OP but also making her feel better.

boromu222 · 12/09/2023 09:09

How is the mother over reacting when she has not actually reacted? She hasn't said anything to you, she hasn't been rude, she hasn't done a thing at all. Sometimes a thumbs up just means...thumbs up.

You feel bad and are looking to her to make you feel better, and you are upset that she has not done that for you. She doesn't have to. It's not her job.

andrainwillmaketheflowersgrow · 12/09/2023 09:10

Look at it from her viewpoint:

The first time she trusts you to care for her child, he ends up in hospital needing his head glued back together. You then admit you knew the risk because your own DS has already injured himself in exactly the same way and (in her eyes) you did nothing to mitigate the risk.

Yes, accidents happen and once her DS is healed I'm sure she'll accept that, but for now she's still upset and her son is injured - she just needs some time to come to terms with it without needing to pacify your anxieties.

ittakes2 · 12/09/2023 09:15

A child only hits their head on a radiator near a sofa if they are not behaving in a safe way. The sofa did not leave the wall and deliberately attack him. I would not expect you to be supervising 100% of the time at that age. I think you need to leave it now as time will heal.

Tlolljs · 12/09/2023 09:16

I’m still not sure how he managed to bang his head. We’re they jumping on the sofa? Larking about and he banged it? Doesn’t sound like an inherently dangerous situation. It’s just a radiator.
Leave it now see what happens.

andrainwillmaketheflowersgrow · 12/09/2023 09:18

A child only hits their head on a radiator near a sofa if they are not behaving in a safe way.

Not necessarily, he could have slipped or tripped.

But even so, these are six year old boys, they can't be trusted to behave safely because they're six.

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