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AIBU to think that my inlaws could recycle if theyactually tried?

137 replies

ska · 03/03/2008 12:43

they are rich (13 bed house) and have 2 full time members of staff. Plus others. They told my milaw 'it's such a shame that we can't recycle because we just don't have the facilities' when pressed they said because they don't have kerbside collection (mind you maybe its the mile long drive that's the problem...)

aaarh!!!!!

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DarthVader · 03/03/2008 20:51

"Recycling is for the greater good"
Recycling is not necessarily for the greater good. If you use more energy driving to the recyling depot and recyling stuff than you would use making something from scratch it can be argued as for the greater ill that you recycle.

I find recycle fanatics akin to religious nuts. Assuming they are unquestionably right when their logic is often at fault and preaching to other people to convert them. If I recycle it is in spite of this kind of attitude and certainly not because of it. Holier than thou doesn't help the planet.

LyraSilvertongue · 03/03/2008 21:08

Even if you used the same energy recycling as you would making new, isn't it still better to reuse stuff that stick it all in a landfill where it will just sit there for centuries, not decomposing?

blueshoes · 03/03/2008 21:13

DV, it would Great though if recycling took up as much resources as making from scratch (not that we would ever know in all cases). Saves you the trouble of ever having to recycle, which is really the crux, isn't it?

soopermum1 · 03/03/2008 21:16

i don't think ska thinks she is being god's gift to the planet or holier than thou for recycling and expecting everyone else to do it. come on, it's really not that much of an inconvenience, especially if you have staff and even if you don't and are 'so busy' i really don't think that's an excuse either. i recycle, i don't think i'm single handedly saving the planet, just doing my tiny bit that is within my control.

catsmother · 03/03/2008 21:18

Well, quite obviously DV, recylcling's not for the greater good if you use up more resources driving etc, but as a concept properly organised and efficient recycling is for the greater good because it has less impact on the environment, less landfill, less hazardous waste (think the current anti-plastic bag campaign) and so on.

Where facilities to recycle exist without any great inconvenience to an individual, for example, kerbside collections of specific categories of rubbish, then someone who is too damned lazy to sort out their rubbish is being bloody-minded and selfish, because their decision not to recycle means that there'll be more shite in landfill and so on.

I wouldn't describe myself personally as a "fanatic" far from it, nor "holier than thou" ...... I just feel that we (as in society as a whole) should try to do our individual bits wherever possible in helping to preserve our planet for future generations, as well as make it as pleasant a place as possible for all of us here now. What's so wrong with that ?

There's a world of difference between a pensioner (the 1st example off the top of my head) who might find recycling practically and/or physically difficult to manage and an able-bodied family with lots of space shrugging their shoulders and acting like it's nothing to do with them. IMO, that's just bloody selfish.

ska · 03/03/2008 21:24

my dad will no longer recycle (he is an old bugger) because whereas for the last 60 years the local council have collected salvage (waste paper/cardboard) from the kerbside now you have to take it down to the end of the road. he is 79 and frail and has no-one near to help him. they specially get his bin from the back of his house as he is old so why oh why wont they get his recycling? but he is bloody minded as he does drive to sainsburys once a week and they have facilities there. votes tory too...

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ska · 03/03/2008 21:24

hey CM nice to see you!

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rachaelsara · 03/03/2008 21:38

I'm sorry Ska that you've been ripped apart by the Munmsnet equivalent of the KGB. I'm amazed by how some people can discover, distect and distroy an op's personality on the basis of a few lines of type.

I have to recycle. My Dad has brought me up so that if my hand tries to throw a plastic bottle in a public bin, it is repelled as if by an invisible force. Dad is a silver haired green freak.

I don't care what people think of me, but I am slightly concerned that my daughters houses will be built on smelly piles of waste because England is full.

rachaelsara · 03/03/2008 21:41

I'm amazed by how shit my spelling is. Perhaps I should proof read my posts before I post em!

ska · 03/03/2008 21:47

RS it is astonishing isnt it but dont worry i'm a big girl and can cope with the frankly daft views of a few people who can remain anonymous and abuse others. but now i think i know why the world is in the state its in, 'not my problem' people. hope their grandchildren get to see a dolphin or an eagle or even a tree in the wild.

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Divastrop · 03/03/2008 21:50

ska-please tell me you are american.

i am quite shocked by this thread.is it really that difficult for some people to understand that some of us just dont actually care about recycling?

ska · 03/03/2008 21:52

sorry, west country born and bred.

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Divastrop · 03/03/2008 21:55

oh no.its happening here too.i cant escape.

madamez · 03/03/2008 21:56

Also, that some of us who do recycle think it's counterproductive to lecture other people and go 'Waah, you're eeeeevil! If you don't recycle then this fwuffy panda will DIIIIE' Maybe the people who don't industriously put their recycling out in the special labelled bins don't, er, actually have much stuff to recycle? Maybe they reuse what packaging they do have, or weave all their own food or something.

rachaelsara · 03/03/2008 21:56

How can you not care???????????????

Do you like to see carrier bags in trees? Do you think it's pretty???????????????

rachaelsara · 03/03/2008 22:02

If nobody dares to talk about waste for fear of being branded a lentil weaving hippy (although I'm proud to be one), how can people make an informed choice? Perhaps the op's in laws have been so busy earning loads of money, the issue of landfill has passed them by, so if the op keeps quiet for fear of a reverse psycology reaction, then they will never be able to make an informed choice?

MadamePlatypus · 03/03/2008 22:05

Just bung the recycling in the back of the car from time to time and off load it when you pass a recycling centre.

However, it sounds as though doing this kind of thing wouldn't really be part of their life style.

On the other hand, unless all their bedrooms are filled, maybe they could do more for the planet by moving somewhere smaller?

blueshoes · 03/03/2008 22:06

recycling is pretty mainstream IMO. Get with the programme.

"Maybe the people who don't industriously put their recycling out in the special labelled bins don't, er, actually have much stuff to recycle? Maybe they reuse what packaging they do have, or weave all their own food or something." madamez, you are alright then, so don't see what your problem is.

girlfrommars · 03/03/2008 22:10

Over the years I've come to the conclusion that some people just don't give a shit.

They buy eggs from battery chickens not to save a few pence but because they genuinely don't care what happens to the birds.

They don't recycle because they can't be bothered to.

When I lived in a flat, I carefully split my rubbish into my two bins. Then the neighbours chucked mixed rubbish into them. They couldn't even be bothered to use their own bins, let alone to split their rubbish.

Divastrop · 03/03/2008 22:12

i care about other things,other issues that i consider to be important for my childrens' future.i just dont care about all this 'save the planet' stuff.

MadamePlatypus · 03/03/2008 22:16

I think with recycling, as blueshoes said, people need to get with the programme. Whatever you think about saving the planet, we are running out of spare holes in the ground. I think its not long till we will all be being charged extra for rubbish that goes to landfill.

rachaelsara · 03/03/2008 22:17

Would you like them to be able to play on the beach without wearing tampon applicators on their fingers? Mydn did this, to our horror, he didn't know what it was, but there are so many washed up on the beach...

OrmIrian · 04/03/2008 07:59

ska - your Dad sounds like mine Mine does recycle but he manifestly refuses to beleive any of the 'green myths' that are so mainstream these days. He was really into Gaia theory years ago and used to ruin all our OS maps looking for ley lines but not any more.

recycling may be a pita. So are loads of things that we do because we are part of a community rather than just selfish inviduals.

I've seen what happened to a little valley in the Mendips when it was used as landfill a few decades ago. They closed it down early because it was finally realised that it was unsuitable and it was 'reinstated' but it has been totally ruined. And it wasn't actually in use for very long before it was almost full. Regardless of energy cost and re-use of precious resources, you have to consider the environmental effects of landfill on the landscape.

mrsruffallo · 04/03/2008 10:28

Divastrop-'This save the planet stuff?'

How ignorant. I don't care about people being labelled sanctimonious or holier than thou, I recycle because I care about our environment.

So you don't do it because of sting and chris martin? How ridiculous!!

How lazy- so you all just throw things away- out of sight out of mind-and don't give a shit where it goes?

ska · 04/03/2008 11:27

well hello again. now i'm not going to take personally any of these meanspirited comments about holier than thou recyclers nor those about people lecturing the evil non recyclers. but fgs, chucking stuff into a hole in the ground that could in fact be eaten, used, reused or not bought in the first place is mindless and ignorant. this stuff does matter, our children and their children will not have a planet left worth speaking about. my relatives could do it, should do it, and soon will be compelled by law to do it. and so will all of the feckless ignorant people who think it's someone else's problem or else just haven't ever thought about it. i don't mind if they feed their kids shite, let them watch tv to all hours or don't make them go to school but when what they do impacts on my environment, i shall speak out.

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