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AIBU to think that my inlaws could recycle if theyactually tried?

137 replies

ska · 03/03/2008 12:43

they are rich (13 bed house) and have 2 full time members of staff. Plus others. They told my milaw 'it's such a shame that we can't recycle because we just don't have the facilities' when pressed they said because they don't have kerbside collection (mind you maybe its the mile long drive that's the problem...)

aaarh!!!!!

OP posts:
SueBaroo · 03/03/2008 14:59

ah, but Lyra... we know you do recycle.. because you just told us...

LyraSilvertongue · 03/03/2008 15:00

Ah but, suebaroo, you don't know who I am

SueBaroo · 03/03/2008 15:01

true.. you could be me for all anyone knows, and I could be talking to myself..

hello..hello..is there anybody there?...

Lulumama · 03/03/2008 15:02

ahem, my temple fund needs adding to!!

musicgirl · 03/03/2008 15:03

My rant was directed at the OP and anyone else who thinks they are God's gift to the planet.

SueBaroo · 03/03/2008 15:04

Lulu, will we get little bits of wrist string for our healthy donations? Like the Kabbala ones, but green?

LyraSilvertongue · 03/03/2008 15:04

Lulu, I have 58p to contribute. Where should I send it?

SueBaroo · 03/03/2008 15:05

oo, they could be made out of garden twine!

Lulumama · 03/03/2008 15:05

i can do purple??

Lulumama · 03/03/2008 15:05

i'll take a postal order, payable to

goddess lulu

if you can add a few zeros on ,that would be great

LieselVonTrapp · 03/03/2008 15:06

or they can be made out of lentils

SueBaroo · 03/03/2008 15:07

Or organic yogurt.

Lulumama · 03/03/2008 15:10

or organic pasta shapes on natural string

musicgirl · 03/03/2008 15:11

I'm thinking of starting a thread titled "Am I Being Unreasonable to really, really want a 13 bedroom house with 2 staff".

Madamez, a chelsea tractor and a fur coat wouln't go astray either.

Lulumama · 03/03/2008 15:11

that would be a bit sticky, soo!

blueshoes · 03/03/2008 18:10

"they have 5 cars (i think) 2 each, i each for 2 driving children and 1 for housekeeper. plus another truck thing."

I am amazed these are GPs. The bosses where I work who must clear more than £1m a year are not half as 'privileged'. It is terribly ostentatious though.

Side issue, of course.

lol, at recyclers looking for approval for their good deeds. Perhaps non-recyclers are a bit touchy.

ska · 03/03/2008 19:05

well i am now also astonished at the vitriol i have discovered here on nice old liberal mumsnet. i am astonished that anybody doesn't recycle - why on earth not? but then i am also astonished at people who smoke, get drunk regularly, kick their dogs, drive too fast and are rude, shout at their kids, hit their partners. i wasn't looking for brownie points thanks as i know it simply makes sense to recycle. the planet is getting full of crap. packaging and rubbish adds to it. i refuse, reuse and recycle (and freecycle too).
my relatives can be as rich as they wish to be that is not my beef - if they can afford it and it doesn't encroach on anybody else, lucky them. i am happy to take their hospitality when it is offered and wish i had the room to put all of them up in our slightly smaller place. they are nice people but i am surprised they feel they cannot recycle because they 'don't have the facilities'. that 's all.

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LyraSilvertongue · 03/03/2008 19:34

Only on Mumsnet will you get flamed for recycling.

TheDuchessOfNorksBride · 03/03/2008 19:36

arf @ lyra

I'm not astonished but I am always rather saddened at how many people say "what's it got to do with you?" about issues that need the community at large to take part. Should we also turn a blind eye to people dropping litter or letting their dogs crap on pavements? Do we always have to wait for Nanny State to tell us how to play nicely? (Apparently we do).

expatinscotland · 03/03/2008 19:39

Let's just all turn a blind eye, that's a terrific plan.

After all, it's our world, it's only our children who have to live in it after we're gone.

OverMyDeadBody · 03/03/2008 19:54

Unfortunately at the moment recycling isn't always the most environmentally friendly option, with a lot of energy being used in some cases to recycle. However, I do think the more people recycle, the more research will be put into finding more environmentally friendly and energy-efficient ways of recycling, so that hopefully in years to come it will be the norm rather than an option, and will help make this planet a better place for our children and their children...

DaphneHarvey · 03/03/2008 19:54

And this thread is the final push I need to leave Mumsnet for good.

I'm not well known and am not a frequent poster and I don't expect anyone to miss me. But the thought that I am spending my time with the likes of Madamez and Musicgirl and theBod just makes me hate myself -

So am off to do more productive things with my life! Hooray!!!!

By the way YANBU (imho) Ska.

ska · 03/03/2008 19:58

don't go daphne, then they win and i don't want people like them running my world. (nor yours) we can be an alternative nice kind of knitted mumsnet rewinding all our oldjumpers to knit our wooly hats.
and this is why i always vote, emmaline and sylvia and the rest stood up for me and i have to stand up for those who come after me.

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QuintessentialShadow · 03/03/2008 20:02

Some people just cant see beyond riches. It clouds their vision, and the actual issue, whether we should recycle and save the planet while we can, seem to just evaporate. How sad.

catsmother · 03/03/2008 20:27

Recycling is one of those things which, for want of a better phrase, is for the "greater good".

Let's be honest though, for many of us recycling is a pain in the arse .... not least because the facilities available (or not) don't always make it very easy, and of course, the larger your family, the more waste you need to sort out and the more of a pain it becomes. Our council does all waste every other week, and kerbside "recycling" stuff in the weeks in between. However, it doesn't collect ALL recycled stuff. It professed - somehow - can't remember its exact words, that it would be more "cost effective" and more "convenient" for residents to dispose of plastics (bottles, yoghurt pots etc) at a number of "dedicated" points placed "conveniently" around the town. Except that depending where you live, these places aren't convenient, are usually stuffed to the gills and often necessitate a car journey (very environmentally friendly - not - but, so far as the council are concerned, I do wonder how much all this is about being environmentally aware, and how much it's about saving money. Hmmmmmm).

(They generously suggest you can put plastic in the bin, but of course it's incredibly space-consuming when it gets collected fortnightly and would take up all the bin).

Anyway ....... these arrangements mean that many households now have all sorts of recycling receptacles hanging about. A large black bin bag now lives in the corner of my kitchen (and looks bloody horrible, and I'm always falling over it, and it blocks access to my pan cupboard) precisely for plastic stuff - this is filled in a week with milk bottles, fizz bottles, bleach bottles, yoghurt pots, shower gel etc etc). I don't have a garage, and only have a tiny shed which is already chocka so can't put it there. The recycling boxes for paper & glass live outside the front door, again, looking bloody horrid, 'cos we have nowhere else to put them. I know I'm not the only person to find that finding space to do recycling is damn near impossible. I feel sorry for anyone living in a terrace or flat who have to lug all sorts of rubbish in and out of their house because of the requirement to sort it out into different boxes and so on.

BUT I still do it, as I mentioned before, for the "greater good" and all that. I don't expect any thanks or praise for anyone but it's a good job we don't all take the attitude that we "can't be bothered" (not only about this issue, but regarding all sorts of other community issues) or else where would we then be ?

In view of everything I've just said, I don't personally think Ska is being unreasonable to criticise her inlaws for being so blinking lazy and uncaring (yes, uncaring). And her mentioning 13 bedrooms and outhouses is therefore relevant because they can hardly claim they don't have the space to organise themselves (unlike most households for whom space is at a premium), and indeed having "staff" to organise this on their behalf also negates the "haven't got the time" argument as well.

With their eye on the opportunity to raise extra revenue raise awareness of recycling issues, I believe councils are going to get stricter about how we dispose of our household waste, and there'll be more fines for failing to separate it as dictated. Suppose though, that like so much else, there will be some (rich) folk who'll take the "hit" of a small fine if it means they don't have to put themselves out slightly like the rest of us plebs.

Rant over. YANBU, but quite how you can persuade them to stop being irresponsible I don't know.