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It’s not normal to leave a 2 year old home alone for any length of time, is it?

104 replies

DancinInSeptember · 02/09/2023 22:25

Name changed here.

I went out for drinks with a friend for the evening, and we walked back to her house after. I said I’d get an taxi but she insisted her fiancé would drive me home. Fiancé said because their house is out in the sticks it would be difficult to get a taxi, I gave in and said “thanks, if you’re sure.”

I said I felt bad because I didn’t want to disrupt their 2yo’s sleep. But my friend said “don’t worry about it, it’s fine” and I’m sure she said something about the kid being fine once plonked in the car seat. On getting in the car, the fiancé said “oh, you’re coming?” in surprise to her, she said yes and we all got in the car. All except the kid that is.

At that point I said “what about Amy?” (Not real name) and my friend said “oh she’ll be fine she sleeps through anything, even if the dog barks” and I realised the kid wasn’t in the car and I was shook. We’d had drinks but weren’t drunk and I was in disbelief that this scenario was playing out. I just kind of froze and didn’t say much during the 10 minute journey.

I feel awful that I didn’t kick up a fuss and guilty I let this happen. But I feel the fact they’re both feel it’s OK to leave their kid home alone, is completely negligent and dangerous. What the fuck do I say? I want to bring it up but no idea where the hell I start? We’re really good friends but now I’m questioning everything. AIBU??

OP posts:
Cowlover89 · 02/09/2023 22:50

Definitely report

DancinInSeptember · 02/09/2023 22:50

Thanks all. Going to have a serious talk and as I said, I feel awful and guilty for letting it happen.

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DancinInSeptember · 02/09/2023 22:52

sillyuniforms · 02/09/2023 22:44

It's totally not normal. I don't get why it needed both of them to take you back. That's odd.
But I suspect loads of parents leave babies asleep in cots for 15 min and no one ever knows.
My neighbour used to take her older one to school & leave other at home in cot and same at 3pm. It was 30 min each time. She walked ten min to school, collected & walked back. 5 days a week. No one would have realised and assumed she had childcare. She isn't from the UK and thought that was perfectly normal

My friend isn’t from the UK so this did cross my mind. Still crazy to me.

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bookworm44 · 02/09/2023 22:53

TenThousandSpoons · 02/09/2023 22:28

Crazy, especially as there were two of them so one could have stayed home easily.

I’m guessing the two year old is in a cot so they are thinking she can’t get into any trouble but what if they had a car crash and couldn’t get back for hours, or worse?

Not all 2 year olds are still in cots. My granddaughter has been in a toddler bed since way before 2.

DancinInSeptember · 02/09/2023 22:54

TallerThanAverage · 02/09/2023 22:39

You said nothing, I hate to say it but you’re just as bad as them for keeping quiet.

I agree with you and it’s eating away at me. I will make it right

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ASoapImpressionOfHisWifeWhichHeAte · 02/09/2023 22:55

Is this really a "different cultures" thing that some people in the world are doing routinely? I wouldn't even have nipped to the postbox that's literally at the end of my driveway leaving my two year old in the house, even if they were asleep and in a cot, let alone have left them for 30minsish and done a car journey. Anything could happen. Where in the world is this apparently a normal thing people accept?

DancinInSeptember · 02/09/2023 22:55

bookworm44 · 02/09/2023 22:53

Not all 2 year olds are still in cots. My granddaughter has been in a toddler bed since way before 2.

Nope, in a bed not a cot

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Lovepeaceunderstanding · 02/09/2023 22:56

I would not have got in that car.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 02/09/2023 22:56

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MeAgainPeeps · 02/09/2023 23:00

I can see the shop from my house. Its so close I could be there, shop and be back in 2 minutes. I wouldn't leave my kids to go there. In 2 minutes anything can happen. Absolutely anything. It's very negligent of them. Imagine if that baby woke up imagine how scared they would be.

Anontocomment · 02/09/2023 23:00

Dear god in heaven this is so not in any way right. Anything could have happened. You need to say something. 5 minutes of embarrasment with a good friend is nothing when compared to the safety of a child.

sillyuniforms · 02/09/2023 23:01

I wouldn't have done it but mine were bad sleepers & cot climbers. Two is too young.
But we've done early morning airport drop off runs and left DC age 11 asleep knowing full well they'll not wake until 7am. Yes the house might catch fire but highly unlikely, Yes we could have a crash & both die but I can't life my life like that. They also have a phone.

sillyuniforms · 02/09/2023 23:04

OP don't beat yourself up. We've all done things then immediately thought 'what am I doing'. To me your friend doesn't trust her husband.
Normal would be for her to stay home & he give you a lift

DancinInSeptember · 02/09/2023 23:04

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I know. I was worried about it kicking off because, I wasn’t drunk but wondering if she was and worried about them getting defensive and dumping me on the side of the road late at night.

I know regardless I should have done the right thing and never got in the car, it happened so quickly but I will make it right.

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steelingmyself · 02/09/2023 23:08

Very worrying!

GreyDuck · 02/09/2023 23:08

Madeline McCann's parents thought it was ok. So did the friends they ate out with. So... SOME people think it's ok.
Every parent I know personally would think it completely irresponsible though.

NotGotAClue1 · 02/09/2023 23:09

Not normal no. You could report it but as someone else mentioned, very awkward for your friendship. However a phone call from a SW could be the wakeup call your friend needs to be honest. I would definitely confront them about it though and find out whether this is a regular thing.

WomanHereHear · 02/09/2023 23:09

Which country is this normal? I’m from a ‘foreign’ culture, you don’t leave a live animal alone with your child nevermind leave the house for a car journey. Where is she from?

TenThousandSpoons · 02/09/2023 23:12

bookworm44 · 02/09/2023 22:53

Not all 2 year olds are still in cots. My granddaughter has been in a toddler bed since way before 2.

I know that. My children weren’t in cots at 2 either. But I assumed this 2 year old would be. If she was in a bed it’s even worse.

poetryandwine · 02/09/2023 23:15

OP,

You’re taking me back to high school. I used to babysit for a young, glam couple in my home country. Adorable toddler DD.

But both husband and wife would routinely drive me home, leaving DD asleep in her cot. The round trip was no more than 10 min. I hated it but felt I couldn’t protest if I wanted to keep working for them, which I did. I’ve always been ashamed.

They soon divorced. The wife kept the house and always put her DD in the car to fetch me and bring me home.

sillyuniforms · 02/09/2023 23:15

OP I'd say mention it to your friend and ask why she didn't just stay home. They obviously think leaving a child who is fast asleep and won't wake for 20min is ok.
It's not the norm for sure.
I wouldn't have done it.
But I do see why people might

TallerThanAverage · 02/09/2023 23:16

DancinInSeptember · 02/09/2023 22:54

I agree with you and it’s eating away at me. I will make it right

We’ve all been in a situation where we can’t quite believe what is happening and we don’t know what to say so end up saying nothing. don’t beat yourself up.

Goldflap · 02/09/2023 23:18

It's not even just that something major like a fire or car accident might have happened, if the child had woken and been scared with no one to offer comfort that is emotional abuse and seriously damaging.
What on earth else are they getting up to.

Mariposista · 02/09/2023 23:19

boomtickhouse · 02/09/2023 22:50

Sounds like she didn't trust you with her husband.

No good parent leaves their 2yo at home alone, this wasnt even an emergency!

First thing I thought too.
But poor poor child when the husband’s potential antics take priority over her safety!

Popsicales · 02/09/2023 23:25

Did they have a baby sitter while you were out? Could the baby sitter have still been there? I just can’t believe anyone would leave their toddler alone! 😮