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To be a bit disappointed I wasn't informed of results?

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Pizzahut345 · 28/08/2023 14:08

I worked as a sessional A level teacher in a 6th form college until May 2023, for one academic year. Due to low subject intake for September 2023 I wouldn't be needed (but would be kept on the books). I handed in my notice in May as I ended up finding a permanent salaried job (this one was a 0 hours contract)
They understood and I left after the students' final day before exams.
My email account was deactivated a few days after, but I still had the teachers' address on my personal email.
Obviously results day has been and gone but I've no way of knowing how my former students did. I emailed the teachers but sadly they never replied.
It did hurt a bit, but that's how it is sometimes. Maybe it's a safeguarding thing? But I'm a recent member of staff not some random stranger, they couldn't even send a generic 'students did well' polite email.
Anyway, not sure if I'm being unreasonable, it would have been nice to know since I taught them for a year, but never mind.

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MatildaTheCat · 28/08/2023 14:10

Have the school not published their results? Obviously you wouldn’t know which students had scored what but if uptake was low you’d get a good idea. I agree it’s sad nobody has bothered to reply.

Pizzahut345 · 28/08/2023 14:14

Can't seem to find it anywhere, the school just published a generic 'high number of our students got A*-B' article but nothing else! When I was at school in the 90s they published your name in the paper with the number of passes you got, not sure if that still happens.
I get schools are very big on safeguarding, mainly for very valid reasons but stuff like this is stupid, what exactly would I do with the information?

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Houseplantmad · 28/08/2023 14:14

I imagine staff who were in were busy dealing with helping students through clearing etc. and then resumed their holiday. You are more likely to receive a reply when the school reopens properly.

Pizzahut345 · 28/08/2023 14:15

Maybe that will happen and I've got it wrong. I'll see!

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AnnieMay55 · 28/08/2023 14:19

Can you email the exams officer when they go back? It doesn't seem right for you not to know after all the work you put in teaching the students.

Pizzahut345 · 28/08/2023 14:20

Thank you, the exams officer is a good idea.

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GCAcademic · 28/08/2023 14:21

It would presumably breach GDPR to send this information to your personal email address, and when you no longer work at the school.

GCAcademic · 28/08/2023 14:22

GCAcademic · 28/08/2023 14:21

It would presumably breach GDPR to send this information to your personal email address, and when you no longer work at the school.

With the details of specific students’ results, that is.

NillyNoMates · 28/08/2023 14:22

I think that’s standard when you leave a school or college.

ZeusandClio · 28/08/2023 14:26

You absolutely can't be told students' results if you don't work at the school. Parents can't collect results for their own children or be told the results, the results belong to the students and it is up to them who they tell. The school, teachers or exams' officer won't tell you.

chopc · 28/08/2023 14:26

@Pizzahut345 I hope all teachers care as much as you do!
I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask the school how your students did. Unsure of the best way of contacting them but you can ask the exam officer and they can guide you about seeing your student's results. In fact the fact you were not informed is worrying - eg if a student had done worse than expected, wouldn't your opinion be sought about any appeal?

Pizzahut345 · 28/08/2023 14:30

I didn't think about the gdpr issue. It's a shame you can teach a class for a year then have nothing to do with the results but I guess that's how it is! I suppose it is a breach.

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Whatswhatwhichiswhich · 28/08/2023 14:32

You’ve no right to students information after you leave the school. It’s the same as a teacher can’t just call up the office and ask about students they’ve taught too.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 28/08/2023 14:35

ZeusandClio · 28/08/2023 14:26

You absolutely can't be told students' results if you don't work at the school. Parents can't collect results for their own children or be told the results, the results belong to the students and it is up to them who they tell. The school, teachers or exams' officer won't tell you.

I remember a nightmare a few years ago when some students had gone away for a DofE practice when the AS results came out. They forgot to arrange consent for parents to collect the results.

MatildaTheCat · 28/08/2023 14:49

Perhaps the exam officer will be able to give generic answers such as ‘in your subject there were 2xA, 3xB and 6xC? That doesn’t break GDRP surely?

Bellyblueboy · 28/08/2023 14:51

Surely teachers are made aware of GDPR and how it impacts their access to student details?

in my work we have mandatory training every year.

the people you emailed are maybe unsure how to reply and have a lot on their plates.

yes it would be polite to acknowledge your email and just say they aren’t sure what information they are allowed to release as you are no longer an employee. But it’s a busy time and I am sure they are dealing with a lot.

I would be surprised if the examinations office gave you more than is published. How would they know which pupils you taught? Did you teach all students in your school who did a certain subject?

Bellyblueboy · 28/08/2023 14:54

MatildaTheCat · 28/08/2023 14:49

Perhaps the exam officer will be able to give generic answers such as ‘in your subject there were 2xA, 3xB and 6xC? That doesn’t break GDRP surely?

But how would they isolate the students OP taught? Unless it is a niche subject for the school and OP is the only teacher?

OP would, I assume, have to wait a long time for someone to run the data for her in any case. Bespoke stat requests for curiosity sake will not be top of the examination boards priorities.

Pizzahut345 · 28/08/2023 14:56

Yes, I taught every pupil who did that subject.
Maybe they would be able to say something along the lines of there were 3 As, 2 Bs etc.
However I won't get my hopes up.
It's not just curiosity, it would be nice to know since you taught them, wouldn't you want to know?

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JudgeRudy · 28/08/2023 15:00

GCAcademic · 28/08/2023 14:21

It would presumably breach GDPR to send this information to your personal email address, and when you no longer work at the school.

Yes, I agree. I think that goes for the school and the exam board.

DrunkenHandstand · 28/08/2023 15:04

Yes, I’d assume it’s a data protection thing. A polite email back would have been nice though but maybe that will still happen in the new term. It’s lovely that you care and have thought of your past students. 💐

Pizzahut345 · 28/08/2023 15:09

Thank you :)

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Moredarkchocolateplease · 28/08/2023 15:13

Breach of GDPR.

I'm an exams officer in an 11-18 school.

On students results day I published all results to a shared internal folder. Absolutely no way should a former member of staff see that.

It wouldn't occur to me to email the two members of staff who left at Easter. And all I could say would be the headline results anyway.

Bellyblueboy · 28/08/2023 15:15

Pizzahut345 · 28/08/2023 14:56

Yes, I taught every pupil who did that subject.
Maybe they would be able to say something along the lines of there were 3 As, 2 Bs etc.
However I won't get my hopes up.
It's not just curiosity, it would be nice to know since you taught them, wouldn't you want to know?

But that is curiosity😂.

OccupantofInterplanetaryCraft · 28/08/2023 15:17

I worked for a year in a primary school that had lost its yr 6 teacher suddenly. I led that class nearly every day for a year. The last week of term they said they didn’t need me in as it was just rehearsals for end of year play. I turned up on the afternoon of the play to support the students who all asked me to be there ( 2 days after my last lesson). Receptionist wouldn’t let me in until she had cleared it with Head.

I have never felt so used and redundant ( until my next school). It was a real kick in the teeth.

Bellyblueboy · 28/08/2023 15:24

OccupantofInterplanetaryCraft · 28/08/2023 15:17

I worked for a year in a primary school that had lost its yr 6 teacher suddenly. I led that class nearly every day for a year. The last week of term they said they didn’t need me in as it was just rehearsals for end of year play. I turned up on the afternoon of the play to support the students who all asked me to be there ( 2 days after my last lesson). Receptionist wouldn’t let me in until she had cleared it with Head.

I have never felt so used and redundant ( until my next school). It was a real kick in the teeth.

But I think that is standard. I have turned up at my old work for retirement events etc and have had to get a visitors pass. I can’t just walk in. Doesn’t bother me in the slightest.

i am relieved that school don’t let ex employees have free access. In the majority of cases it would be fine but it bound to be against safeguarding policy to let ex staff members walk in anytime they want.

But if it was a play and open to the public did you not buy a ticket?

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