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GonnaGetGoingReturns · 28/08/2023 13:47

Not sure if have done similar but…

About 4-5 years ago my half Siamese cat who was nosey and prone to wandering disappeared for 5 days in summer. I leafleted, knocked on doors, went into gardens in the neighbouring streets but nothing.

On the 5th/6th day I was outside at 6.30am calling him when I heard a yowling miaow and heard a cat come running and hitting the fences as he jumped over them. What I think happened is he’d been exploring a shed/garage and got locked in by owners who then went away (he wasn’t great with strangers) and didn’t realise he was there until they returned. I’m guessing he survived on insects, spiders, mice and any drops of water around.

orangegato · 28/08/2023 13:55

OP UPDATE US PLEASE how is the cat?!

I’m so invested.

oneleggedspider · 28/08/2023 13:57

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 28/08/2023 13:47

it's not me that's being ridiculous, you can't compare a criminal act such as someone posting a firework through a letterbox to a car using a cat flap ffs 🤣.

Owners are responsible for keeping their property secure against animals who aren't aware of the societal norms and laws...

Granted it wasn't the best analogy, but the comment I was responding to was self-righteously effectively blaming the owners for having their home invaded and damaged, with the poor helpless owner of the cat that has a reputation for intruding completely blameless.

One common way that home owners keep their properties secure from animal intrusion/infestation is by putting down traps or poison that kill them. As you say, wild animals - and those who are pets but not supervised or controlled by their human owners - can't be reasoned with as to what is somebody else's private property. Is that the kind of responsibility that you'd prefer to see them do to keep out invading cats as well?

My comment earlier was just pointing out that UK laws on cats are different to those for dogs. They have a right to roam. If you leave your front door open and you get burgled, your insurance might not pay out. If you leave your cat flap open, you may not legally be able to claim for damages caused by a cat. That's if the cat even got in that way. If the builders accidentally locked the cat in, then arguably they could be held liable.

I'm not suggesting that there isn't a moral obligation to contribute to damage costs. But I don't think there's a legal one. It's a grey area. If the neighbours are reasonable they won't take the piss. If they start asking for full re-carpeting costs of the entire house then I think it's important the OP knows where she stands legally.

Titfortat78 · 28/08/2023 13:57

I'm guessing they put it in the wall so that it's more secure. Putting a cat flap in a door makes it easier for people to break in.

Titfortat78 · 28/08/2023 14:01

What a beautiful cat hope he's rescued ASAP..

HideousKinky · 28/08/2023 14:01

Please post a photo of liberated cat tucking into some food!

MavisMcMinty · 28/08/2023 14:04

You just KNOW the cat will not learn any lessons from this episode.

NewLifeHappyLife · 28/08/2023 14:15

aaah so pleased it might work out.

A few years ago our nervy but curious girl snuck into a second homer's home just down the road. They left on the Sunday and we had no idea if they would be back on the Friday as they often went weeks. It was dire but we also managed to poke bits of food through a slightly ajar window. I was desperately worried about water. We treid everything we could think of.
Thankfully they came down on the Friday, opened the door and our cat shot out. leaving behind her a disgustingly revoltingly pissed and shat on carpet.

DH went around with the vax machine and the owners left us with their numbers and a spare key just in case. Thankfully one of their bathroom taps had been dripping,

Bloody cats with their fast-running-out-of-9-lives.

PS- your cat is a stunner.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 28/08/2023 14:15

My comment earlier was just pointing out that UK laws on cats are different to those for dogs. They have a right to roam. If you leave your front door open and you get burgled, your insurance might not pay out. If you leave your cat flap open, you may not legally be able to claim for damages caused by a cat. That's if the cat even got in that way. If the builders accidentally locked the cat in, then arguably they could be held liable.

I'm not suggesting that there isn't amoral obligation to contribute to damage costs. But I don't think there's a legal one. It's a grey area. If the neighbours are reasonable they won't take the piss. If they start asking for full re-carpeting costs of the entire house then I think it's important the OP knows where she stands legally.

OK, fair enough - apologies for my misunderstanding.

But either way, I don't see how cats can legally be considered both free-roaming, uncontrollable wild creatures when it suits, but also precious loved pets that the police/fire brigade/RSPCA are allowed/urged to break into people's private property to free them.

Fair's fair: how can it be just for a home owner to be liable for all damage that a cat might do to their house, but also liable to have their property broken into so as to rescue that same cat?

Cosycardigans · 28/08/2023 14:22

Just glad you've avoided a cat-astrophe. I bet you're feline relieved now.

EasyPeelersAreNotSatsumas · 28/08/2023 14:23

That's SUCH good news OP 😊
Ignore the thread wankers 😼

TrainedByCats · 28/08/2023 14:25

Catsos · 28/08/2023 11:48

🥹🥹MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH 🥹🥹

The builders (their number was on the renovation sign outside) have finally answered their phone after 48 hours of me calling and texting, an extremely kind Irish man who has found the whole thing hilarious. He said he will be come over to liberate my cat 😭😭😭😭

I’m soooooo bloody happy. THANK YOU SO SO SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THE KIND AND SYMPATHETIC REPLIES 💗💗💗 I’ve been reading them all and it’s really helped me feel less alone.

To those trolling me, I really hope you never have an emergency and need help, as karma will be waiting for you 😊

Oh fantastic news, hope you get him back soon

Yujismum · 28/08/2023 14:26

Whooooo OP! Builders coming, or maybe have already been, just about to catch up.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 28/08/2023 14:29

MavisMcMinty · 28/08/2023 14:04

You just KNOW the cat will not learn any lessons from this episode.

Goes without saying Wink

I haven't RTFT but very please your Cat is on his way to freedom

Our old girl and the NDN Cat were in and out of each others houses , catflaps back then weren't microchip operated and a clever cat could slide the door up (even if it was clicked into place )

We sometimes saw her peering out of their house and NDN cat used to visit us for supper .

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 28/08/2023 14:34

The builders (their number was on the renovation sign outside) have finally answered their phone after 48 hours of me calling and texting, an extremely kind Irish man who has found the whole thing hilarious. He said he will be come over to liberate my cat

Of course , if the Extremely Kind Irish Man has watched any TV Poice Dramas he is not going to take your word for it that DCat is yours . DCat looks like a fine expensive specimum. He could be the owners cat , maybe they're letting him settle in (they have the catdoor afterr all )

Don;t rely on DCat to come streaking over to you in a glorious reunion. He's more likely to yell
Never seen her before IN MY LIFE.- Unhand me Hooman

JenWillsiam · 28/08/2023 14:34

TheBarbieEffect · 28/08/2023 11:50

I’m glad he’s safe, for his sake.

Now are you going to be a responsible pet owner and keep him safe in future by cat proofing your garden?

Doubtful.

How do you cat proof a garden?

littlefireseverywhere · 28/08/2023 14:35

Fabulous news!

Weedoormatnomore · 28/08/2023 14:36

Good to hear calling the builders worked. Shocked how unhelpful the estate agents where.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 28/08/2023 14:36

JenWillsiam · 28/08/2023 14:34

How do you cat proof a garden?

You can get roller things to go on top of a fence so they cannot jump on them.
Or build a Catio

Or just tell them "Not To " ( like that works <Pah!> )

andbreathenormally · 28/08/2023 14:38

So relieved for you that the builders are coming! We want pictures of your lovely cat back home after rescue. But only if you want to!

greyhairnomore · 28/08/2023 14:38

I'm glad you've sorted it , you'd better go round and block the outside of the cat flap or he'll do it again.

Yujismum · 28/08/2023 14:39

rosao · Today 13:37. Would love to see some of you at a party.

That’s a great idea, we could have crab sticks to celebrate.

Oysterbabe · 28/08/2023 14:39

Have you got him.yet?!
How will you stop him repeating this nonsense? I bet he'll be back in there 10 minutes after he's freed 😂

Catsos · 28/08/2023 14:44

My boy has been liberated 🙌 thanks to the kind builder.

He’s had a good drink/meal and is now relaxing in MY garden :)

Unfortunately he has done some damage inside the house…lots of muddy paw marks on the walls were he was scratching to get out, broken catflap and unfortunately he had a wee on a white rubbish bag which was on the floor. The white bag captured some of the wee but some has gone onto the wooden floors and the rug beside it. It’s a huge rug (about 2 x 3 meters) and I’m guessing expensive :/ Apparently the new owners are coming tomorrow - I’ll offer to have it cleaned, hopefully that will be enough as I don’t have much money right now. 😩

To break into my new neighbours house *THREAD 2*
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HotWaxToTheMax · 28/08/2023 14:45

Beautiful eyes

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