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Prigozhin air crash- suspicious?

102 replies

Theworried2 · 23/08/2023 18:44

Prigozhin is suspected of being on the aircraft that crashed near Moscow today.
He is suspected to have died in it.

surely this seems suspicious and perhaps this was not an accident.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66599733

Yevgeny Prigozhin

Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin feared dead after Russia plane crash

The Russian private military company boss was on the passenger list of the jet which came down near Moscow.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66599733

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tenbob · 23/08/2023 19:33

ClaraThePigeon · 23/08/2023 19:28

The world on average is probably slightly better today than yesterday.

Slightly better? I don't know who the other 6 dead were but I think the family of the three crew members would have a very different opinion. What good resulted from their deaths?

The crew weren’t EasyJet cabin crew on an unlucky rota

They were other Wagner staff/associates who crewed private flights helping to deliver murderers and rapists via private jets, to destabilise African countries and kill, rape and attack anyone who gets in their way

pizzaHeart · 23/08/2023 19:33

Hooferr · 23/08/2023 19:26

I'm confused. I thought we were down to hate all Russians these days but it seems we're now being asked to nothate this one because he fucked Putin off and Putin is worse than anyone in the world ever.

Please tell me how to think.

Nope, nothing like this. We are just following the situation to make sure that we know what’s going on and are prepared for any scenarios. We don’t award Prigozhin medals or cry about him or sending condolences to his family and friends.

howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 23/08/2023 19:36

What's the betting he wasn't actually on board? It takes a cunt to know a cunt. They all play the same dirty games.

DrManhattan · 23/08/2023 19:38

You think??

Lol

DuckyShincracker · 23/08/2023 19:39

Just reading an article on him. Hideous. I wonder if he was actually on board?

Genevieva · 23/08/2023 19:39

If you live that life you don’t expect to grow old.

theDudesmummy · 23/08/2023 19:40

A very bad man wiped out by an even worse man (possibly).

Oakbeam · 23/08/2023 19:43

If he had fallen out of an hotel window, it’s unlikely that nine other people would have followed him down.

Seems a bit excessive.

MotherOfGodWeeFella · 23/08/2023 19:45

Interesting variation on falling out of a window.

I'm more surprised that MN finally has an edit button.

PermanentTemporary · 23/08/2023 19:46

Gang leaders wiping each other out. I just wish he'd got to Putin, but what comes after Putin may be even worse.

Chersfrozenface · 23/08/2023 19:49

The plot thickens.

According to the BBC

"Earlier, Wagner-linked Telegram channel Grey Zone reported the Embraer aircraft was shot down by air defences in the Tver region, north of Moscow"

but also

"Grey Zone reports that a second business jet owned by Prigozhin landed safely in the Moscow region."

NeverDropYourMooncup · 23/08/2023 19:50

Did it ever so accidentally trip over an innocent little SAM pootling through the skies?

And after all the care he took to avoid windows.

Raquelos · 23/08/2023 19:51

Oakbeam · 23/08/2023 19:43

If he had fallen out of an hotel window, it’s unlikely that nine other people would have followed him down.

Seems a bit excessive.

I don't know about excessive tbh, there's some logic to taking him and as many of his inner circle out at the same time as you can - his 2nd in command was on the plane too after all, handy really. There's no point trying to apply morality to the method chosen, they are all thugs who would shoot their own grannies if there was any advantage to it.

mauvish · 23/08/2023 19:53

I've a vision of Putin receiving the news andhis response being,

Oh dear, how sad, nevermind.

Sergeant Major Williams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4uivPpzCGo

Oakbeam · 23/08/2023 19:54

I don't know about excessive tbh, there's some logic to taking him and as many of his inner circle out at the same time as you can

Including the flight crew?

Chersfrozenface · 23/08/2023 19:54

Oakbeam · 23/08/2023 19:43

If he had fallen out of an hotel window, it’s unlikely that nine other people would have followed him down.

Seems a bit excessive.

I'm not sure 'excessive' is a concept many Russian leaders grasp..

TheCyclingGorilla · 23/08/2023 19:56

Pure coincidence.😶

Raquelos · 23/08/2023 19:57

Oakbeam · 23/08/2023 19:54

I don't know about excessive tbh, there's some logic to taking him and as many of his inner circle out at the same time as you can

Including the flight crew?

Well yeah, hence my comment about not trying to apply morality to the decision. I don't imagine any shits were given about the flight crew, who anyway will have been Prigozhin loyalists - I mean he's not letting anyone he's not certain of fly him around is he?

Kirova · 23/08/2023 20:06

It does seem like a bit of a coincidence but surely Putin wouldn't do anything like that - probably an unfortunate accident..

mauvish · 23/08/2023 20:07

Kirova · 23/08/2023 20:06

It does seem like a bit of a coincidence but surely Putin wouldn't do anything like that - probably an unfortunate accident..

Hahahahaha

You're being ironic, right?

mycoffeecup · 23/08/2023 20:10

"With huge regret we announce that Mr Prigozhin died in a plane crash next week"

Kirova · 23/08/2023 20:13

Hooferr · 23/08/2023 19:26

I'm confused. I thought we were down to hate all Russians these days but it seems we're now being asked to nothate this one because he fucked Putin off and Putin is worse than anyone in the world ever.

Please tell me how to think.

"Hate all Russians"? Really?

When ISIS were in power, were "we" down to hate all Sunni Muslims?

Aposterhasnoname · 23/08/2023 20:14

Oakbeam · 23/08/2023 19:54

I don't know about excessive tbh, there's some logic to taking him and as many of his inner circle out at the same time as you can

Including the flight crew?

As others have said, you can’t possibly think that flight crew flying prigozhin and his goons around are just regular pilots who got an unlucky shift? They will be ex military pilots and serving wagnerites.

monpetitlapin · 23/08/2023 20:14

Chersfrozenface · 23/08/2023 19:49

The plot thickens.

According to the BBC

"Earlier, Wagner-linked Telegram channel Grey Zone reported the Embraer aircraft was shot down by air defences in the Tver region, north of Moscow"

but also

"Grey Zone reports that a second business jet owned by Prigozhin landed safely in the Moscow region."

I saw that too. Reminds me of that rooftop fight in Night Watch when Vimes thinks he's disarmed the criminal.
"I got another knife, Vimes."

Sickofchangingmyfuckingusername · 23/08/2023 20:21

i am sure he wasn’t on that plane, but on the second one that landed safely.

I just don’t know: a coup that wasn’t a coup, an assassination that wasn’t an assassination, a friend that wasn’t a friend and an enemy that wasn’t an enemy?

Vile men bringing hell on earth to those unfortunate enough to cross their paths, through unthinkable acts of violence. So many good people die early, and yet creatures like this live to a great old age- or hopefully not.

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