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Due to my incompetence, AIBU

36 replies

perfumeperuser · 21/08/2023 10:58

We are being affected by ULEZ. We have a non compliant van and a compliant car.

We need to swap vehicles, but the van is boarded so that there is no middle mirror only side mirrors.

I get heart palpitations just thinking about driving a vehicle with no mirror in the middle.

This means that we will have huge costs probably to buy a compliant car. We are already having a huge cost to change insurance over.

AIBU should I suck it up and learn to cope without the mirror, you're costing the family perhaps a great expense.

OR AINBU to value the safety of myself and all other Road users.

Any tips on buying a car in a ULEZ climate would also be greatly appreciated!

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perfumeperuser · 21/08/2023 10:59

Oh and there is no back window!

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towriteyoumustlive · 21/08/2023 11:11

The no mirror or back window thing is fine. You get used to using just side mirrors. They're the important ones, and when you go back to driving a car you'll realise that you don't actually need the rear mirror so much.

I only hated driving our van because it was so huge compared to my tiny car!

miraveille · 21/08/2023 11:21

You can see who's behind you in the side mirrors. What's most important is who's in front of you and who's to either side. You'll be fine!!

perfumeperuser · 21/08/2023 11:23

Yes but the side mirrors always need the angles changing don't they, to see different things!
I know I'm a big wuss!

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Enthusedeggplant · 21/08/2023 11:23

Get driving - there is no need for a window to be safe it’s just different. Get a lesson with an instructor so you understand the best approach

perfumeperuser · 21/08/2023 11:24

I mean how in the hell do you reverse 🤣?

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perfumeperuser · 21/08/2023 11:25

By the way - I HATE YOU ULEZ!

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Zingy123 · 21/08/2023 11:26

Why would you need to move the side mirrors? You just need to get on with it. I drive a transit for work. It's easy peasy.

Nopenopenopenopenopenope · 21/08/2023 11:29

perfumeperuser · 21/08/2023 11:24

I mean how in the hell do you reverse 🤣?

Carefully!

ChrisPPancake · 21/08/2023 11:29

Book yourself some van driving lessons maybe?

Bax765 · 21/08/2023 11:29

You'll be fine without the rearview mirror! I drive a truck and only have side mirrors and it's never been a problem. In fact I don't tend to use the middle mirror in a smaller vehicle now.

If you're really worried, you could install a reversing camera? Would be cheaper than a new vehicle.

perfumeperuser · 21/08/2023 11:33

Bax765 · 21/08/2023 11:29

You'll be fine without the rearview mirror! I drive a truck and only have side mirrors and it's never been a problem. In fact I don't tend to use the middle mirror in a smaller vehicle now.

If you're really worried, you could install a reversing camera? Would be cheaper than a new vehicle.

Good idea. Could I keep it running and use it as my back window?!

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OneHornedFlyingPurplePeopleEater · 21/08/2023 11:34

If the van is non compliant anyway, just sell it and buy a non compliant car - cheaper than a compliant one

Balloonhearts · 21/08/2023 11:37

Honestly you're bigging it up in your head. It's piss easy to drive a van, you really don't need a rear mirror.

Haretest · 21/08/2023 11:41

Why not get the back panelling replaced with a window so you can have a mirror?

Or by something compliant with the grant.

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 21/08/2023 11:49

Take up cycling!
Why do you need to drive a van anyway? Unless you're carrying lots of cargo, replace it with something smaller and less polluting (the entire point of introducing ULE zones - to protect people's health)
If you really must continue with the van, fit a rear-facing camera and you'll always be able to see directly behind it.

Heybertay · 21/08/2023 11:50

OneHornedFlyingPurplePeopleEater · 21/08/2023 11:34

If the van is non compliant anyway, just sell it and buy a non compliant car - cheaper than a compliant one

I never thought of that! I suppose as long as they didn't roll it out everywhere this could get me a bargain!

Thanks

Heybertay · 21/08/2023 11:50

Whoops fail!

perfumeperuser · 21/08/2023 11:51

Ok I'm back!

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Beachbodyready · 21/08/2023 11:51

Retro fit reversing sensors or a camera.

CrotchetyQuaver · 21/08/2023 11:54

Just get in the van take it to a quiet car park and get practising reversing into spaces. It shouldn't take you long to get the hang of it and you could always open the drivers door a little and look backwards out of that. You are being a wuss

perfumeperuser · 21/08/2023 11:54

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 21/08/2023 11:49

Take up cycling!
Why do you need to drive a van anyway? Unless you're carrying lots of cargo, replace it with something smaller and less polluting (the entire point of introducing ULE zones - to protect people's health)
If you really must continue with the van, fit a rear-facing camera and you'll always be able to see directly behind it.

I'm sorry, but I can't cycle for many reasons. The van is a car size and has had its uses. I would love to get rid, I'm just worried about the costs.

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Todaywego · 21/08/2023 11:54

Sell the van. Buy a hugely economical but non compliant diesel Citroen C3. The price of non-compliant cars has fallen through the floor in areas near and in the expansion zone.
Worry about further expansions when/if the time comes.

perfumeperuser · 21/08/2023 11:55

@CrotchetyQuaver I know I am lol!

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perfumeperuser · 21/08/2023 11:57

@Todaywego I'm think this is the best option. Really good ideas here.

Where would be the best places to get a bargain?

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