Does being married to a doctor make you middle class?

[GirlGeorgina]

Like if you got married to a doctor (who is male) and you’re not a doctor yourself, does it make you middle class now?

I am not married but someone who is marrying a doctor but not a doctor herself said it makes you middle class too.

Yes it does - YANBU

No it doesn’t - YABU

My gran thought the doctors wife was an upper class lady. She was always referred to as Mrs Smith never by her first name and gran felt very privileged the few times she was invited for tea.
My gran however was born in 1900.

Pop onto the Letby threads. See the outrage that doctor DH's SHARE a secretary. The fucking outrage of the age where all humans can type.

Which thread is that? (There are lots of Letby threads). Consultants have shared secretaries for 30-odd years, bizarre anyone is upset by it.

You might've been raised by a father who had a manual labour job and a mother who was a SAHM, but once you go to university and become a medic or have some other middle class career then you're no longer working class. Also, if you don't work and aren't actively looking
(unless you're a SAHP and your DP works) then you're not working class either. If you have a low paying job and either own or rent a fairly inexpensive house (I know neither of these is particularly inexpensive), have an inexpensive car etc then you are working class (or a child/spouse in a working class family). Social class is categorised by money and lifestyle as well as job.

🤣🤣🤣 I love a joke thread lol

@Mercibuckets you win the replies for me!

As for OP’s ‘friend’ …
I think if you have to try and justify your way into a class, then you’re probably not in it.

My advice? Value people regardless of their perceived social standing and give up with the class obsession.

Trust me, I married a Dr, daaaahling!

It's not just about occupation. The doctor himself may not be middle class.

he's more likely to be than not what with the cost of med school

No idea what is the obsession with class?

I'd be happy if I never saw another thread about class. Just be yourself for heavens sake !

It’s absolute possible for a doctor to be completely working class!

A medical doctor can be raised in a working class family but they cannot be working class once they are a doctor. They earn too much to be considered working class. This includes new doctors in foundation training. This means they can afford things and experiences that aren't easily available for working class people.

Doctor is a middle class profession

“Middle Class” is a state of mind 😉

Medical Dr's are well educated. I'm not so sure how middle class they are nowadays. More usually they seem to be a bunch of whinging, striking ingrates who appear unable to keep their personal politics outside the workplace.

Sadly their conduct is losing them respect.

I think it depends on the doctor. The doctors I've known who are GPs are very much ordinary every day people in terms of lifestyle and how they find affordability. Specialists, on the other hand, have a much higher income I believe.

The first rule of being middle class is you don’t talk about being middle class.
The second rule of being middle class is you don’t talk about being middle class.

Your average plumber, builder or any other trade will likely earn more than a newly qualified doctor.

Plus there's a lot more to whether 'things and experiences' are affordable than income and profession, such as age and where people live.

A 50 YO digger driver in Leeds will likely have far more disposable income than a 30 year old doctor in London, especially if the doctor has young children.

What are these 'things and experiences' to which you refer?

These threads always go the same way, with comments that make no sense unless you are incorrectly mistaking the working classes for people who wouldn't look out of place on the Jeremy Kyle show instead of people with very similar incomes, outlooks and interests to those described as middle class but without the snobbery and long established access to education.

They earn too much to be considered working class??
Plenty of trades people earn far more than your average doctor.

Do people think being middle class is superior?

You sound Pretty whiny to be honest. Let’s hope you don’t need a Dr soon.

@HarrietJet I agree about the earnings in the bank or pocket but the difference between trades and doctors (and other professions/public sector vocations) is: generous pension scheme (with generous death in service benefits), paid annual leave/compassionate leave/bereavement leave, sick pay (often 6 months full/6 months half), and for NHS HCPs in particular significant job security.

I’m from what people would probably describe as a (lower) middle class background. I’m a university lecturer, have a PhD etc. I’m ‘well-spoken’ (I’m often told), like art, literature, opera etc and I’ve often been described as middle class.

DH was brought up on a council estate, has a strong Liverpool accent, like football and boxing and the pub. He has a first class RG degree, works in banking in a very senior role and earns 200k. No-one ever describes him as middle class and he often describes being looked down on by the old boys in work. People constantly underestimate him and assume he’s a bit of an oik (other people’s words there, not mine).

The perception of class is complex, and isn’t just about occupation or salary but a whole host of interrelated factors.

For those saying class is outdated, it should be, yet we’re still talking about it so in that sense it’s still very much relevant.

I was raised in a working class family and had/have young parents. Dad worked full time, mum was a SAHM before going into part time employment. Neither are in a 'middle class' jobs. I wasn't raised on a council estate surrounded by 'Jeremy Kyle' types as you mention in your comment.

However, I went to university and have a career that isn't working class. Doctors are most definitely not working class as even brand new graduates doing their foundation training earn over £32k. If a tradesman earns lots of money and lives in a 4 bed detached house etc then yes, he is middle class too. Social class depends on your job, education, and lifestyle. There's so many factors that determine social class.