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Mothers preference of SIL

59 replies

CarrotsPlease · 18/08/2023 15:41

A little background first, I have one brother we are both in our 40s he is older. Our lives have been very different, I’ve been with my DH for 22 years, married 16, 2 kids, 12 and 10. Ive worked my whole life as has my DH, my parents helped us fund Indy schools for our kids.
My brother has been in and and out of relationships most of his life, generally he never wanted to commit, as soon as the moving in/marriage convo came up he was out the door quicker than you could say boo. Until he met his now wife, he was 40 she is 20 years younger. He went from mr ew not marriage to engaged in 18 months, married 18 months after that and his wife was pregnant with twins soon after. They’ve been together 8 years now. She is a stay at home mum, he makes a ridiculous amount each year.
My mother is quite shallow, thinks looks and money are the be all and end all. I never met up to her wishes for a daughter, I’m not conventionally attractive, could really give two hoots about make-up and clothes and was thrilled to have two boys who would rather be out with the dogs in the forest than anything else. I earn a good amount as does my DH but my brother alone earns more than us combined. I’d say we try to live a modest life, I can’t be bothered with anything flashy.
On the flip, my SIL is young, very attractive, blonde (this is a big thing for my mother she seems to think blondes are the most beautiful people on earth), always well groomed (frankly why wouldn’t she be, she’s a SAHM, kids in nursery/school, they have a cleaner etc.), hair and nails always done, you get the picture, she’s a bit of a ‘Range Rover mummy’.
My mother is obsessed with my SIL, they meet up for lunch once a week, she’s forever telling people how beautiful her daughter in law and granddaughters are (two blonde little girls, just what my mother always wanted). I take my mother shopping once a week and it is all I hear, SIL this and SIL that. She hardly asks about my boys now, frankly they don’t fit her image. She is on my back about me not putting the effort in, buying ‘cheap’ clothes (M&S).
My DH thinks I should ignore it, she’s probably just happy my brother has settled down, but they have been married 5 years!
I know that in reality she’s finally got the daughter and granddaughters she always wanted, and can’t help the excitement but it is beginning to cause me some upset. I feel resentful that my mother has a better relationship with SIL than me and seems to care about my nieces more than my son.
I want to say something but I don’t know how to go about it without causing a fall out. WIBU to bring it up to her? What should I say?

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Why is accepting grandparents help with schooling costs an issue? The state schools around us are all oversubscribed, massive class sizes etc. if the state schools weren’t like that we would have sent our children there.
Meanwhile my brother lives in an area with some of the best state schools but sends his girls to an all girls Indy prep school that very much has a vibe of not wanting the wrong type of family. Chosen more for status than education.

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I think he is pretentious and shallow in all honesty but that isn’t the point is it.

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thinkofablinkingnamewoman · 18/08/2023 15:54

Bloody hell. Can't imagine why she'd prefer to spend time with someone else!

Devilsmommy · 18/08/2023 15:56

If it was me I'd just not bother with the lot of them. They all sound like fake pretentious twats, no offense. Enjoy your dh and DC and ignore them

Curseofthenation · 18/08/2023 15:58

You can't force your mother to value what you value. You need to accept that you are different people with different priorities and let go of your pent up resentment.

Nagado · 18/08/2023 15:59

CarrotsPlease · 18/08/2023 15:49

Why is accepting grandparents help with schooling costs an issue? The state schools around us are all oversubscribed, massive class sizes etc. if the state schools weren’t like that we would have sent our children there.
Meanwhile my brother lives in an area with some of the best state schools but sends his girls to an all girls Indy prep school that very much has a vibe of not wanting the wrong type of family. Chosen more for status than education.

Because, by accepting her financial help, you’ve made yourself beholden to her. If you say anything critical at all, then you run the risk that she’ll withdraw her help.

So your choices are that you either swallow her criticism about your clothes and just try and let it roll off you, or you talk to her, hope that she understands and prepare for your DC to change schools if she doesn’t.

cruffinsmuffin · 18/08/2023 15:59

Honestly you sound quite jealous + rude in your OP, just a thought but if this is how you're feeling deep down, is it perhaps coming out in how you are acting around them all? Because she might not be wanting to spend more time with you etc if you're coming across how you came across in your post?

You seem disparaging of your brother and his wife + their lifestyle / looks, and seem to think your mum of two boys in the woods life is superior which isn't particularly pleasant and might impact how you're interacting with everyone.

Also, she's hardly going to be raving about you to your face, she'll talk about the other family members surely, and when with them might talk about you?

Motnight · 18/08/2023 16:04

Oh you're one of those people, Op. Your reason for choosing private education for your children is a valid one, but your brother's isn't.

Allsweep · 18/08/2023 16:04

Curseofthenation · 18/08/2023 15:58

You can't force your mother to value what you value. You need to accept that you are different people with different priorities and let go of your pent up resentment.

I agree.

I do have some empathy with how you're feeling. My mum prefers one of my cousins to me for various reasons to do with her values and because she likes quiet pretty girls (my cousin's DD fits this) over boisterous boys (mine).

But talking to her won't change her.

Businessflake · 18/08/2023 16:04

You sound awful OP. And incredibly jealous.

For what it’s worth, I send my kids to private school/nursery and have a full time nanny and a cleaner. I also have a Range Rover and get my nails done. Doesn’t make me a horrible person and I’m pretty sure neither of my sisters in law despise me because of that.

Nagado · 18/08/2023 16:05

I just wanted to add that, for what it’s worth, I don’t blame you for being hurt and constantly compared to your SIL. But it’s not her fault, or your brother’s fault. They are who they are and their choices aren’t harming you or yours. Try and put a bit of space between you and your mum. Maybe message your SiL and ask her to take your mum shopping a few times. Try to remember that your boys would much rather be out playing than stuck indoors with their grandmother.

Ffsmakeitstop · 18/08/2023 16:10

Devilsmommy · 18/08/2023 15:56

If it was me I'd just not bother with the lot of them. They all sound like fake pretentious twats, no offense. Enjoy your dh and DC and ignore them

I agree with this. It's very hurtful when you're unfavourably compared to a relative especially by your mum.
Ignore the nasty comments you are allowed to feel the way you do. I don't think saying anything to your mum will help she will just pretend she wants the best for you eg: expensive clothes etc.
Low contact may be the way to go. If she asks why you may have to tell her how undervalued she sometimes makes you feel.

movintothecountry · 18/08/2023 16:13

I identify with this. My mother is also a little pre-occupied with looks, weight, clothes etc. As I get older, fatter etc i can see that she would rather I was still young and attractive so she could still be proud of how I look. Its not her fault its the way she was brought up - a woman's value is tied up with her attractiveness in her eyes. She very much admires women who are good looking, well groomed etc and i can tell it comes from her own low self esteem.
No advice really - it is hurtful, just try to rise above.

Also - rule no.1 on mumsnet - don't mention private school or grandparent contributions. People will jump on you now about what a horrible entitled snob you are and it will derail the thread. Its a bit of red herring anyway - this comes down to wanting unconditional love from your mum - something we all want surely?

MysteryBelle · 18/08/2023 16:40

You could try to disentangle yourself from caring about what your mother thinks, says, and does. You are a grownup now and can look at your relationship with your mother and brother with clear eyes. The past does not have to ruin your present. Your resentful feelings are natural considering how callously your mother has treated you. To now have her fawn over sil so blatantly has caused fresh hurt.

I would distance myself a bit from them all. Accept that nothing you can say or do would make them nice and caring peiple

MysteryBelle · 18/08/2023 16:43

Sorry, pushed button too soon. People typo.

Focus on you and your wonderful boys. Cultivate friendships with people who share your values. Your mother’s behavior and your brother’s, are not indicative of your worth, it shows their lack of care, sensitivity, and familial love. 🌸

MysteryBelle · 18/08/2023 16:47

Keep in mind that your mother is flawed, and lacking in judgement. Hold your head high and continue to be yourself and above their petty shallow behavior.

Spirallingdownwards · 18/08/2023 16:49

It seems you don't like your brother, you don't like his wife, you don't like your Mum, you don't like SAHMs in general, you don't like people who spend the money they earn on things they want to buy.

Its a good job you like your DH and your boys so I would just concentrate on them and be thankful that your parents clearly value education in that they are happy to fund your kids' education for them (and unlike others I have no problem with that). But you can't take that money but then criticise DB for spending his own money how he wishes.

emizay · 18/08/2023 16:57

Woah why is everybody giving Op a hard time.

She's a human, and it's okay to be jealous, she isn't harming anyone, sabotaging their life, she's allowed to feel jealous, and I suppose anyone would be when all your mother does is talk about how gorgeous their daughter in law and granddaughters are with no mention to her grandsons. It would be jarring.

MumApril1990 · 18/08/2023 16:59

If my Mum paid for my children to go to private school, she could talk SIL as much as she liked. What a generous grandma.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 18/08/2023 17:07

@CarrotsPlease I get it. I really do. I'm an only child , and still not my mum's favourite.Grin

That's my cousin. Tall,gorgeous, skinny, beautiful hair, well behaved, into clothes and makeup, the wealthy husband, the house, the gorgeous girl , the car,the holidays etc. My cousin might've grown out of it at 45, but for 20/30 years she called mum mummy. You get the gist.

At least DD kinda meets up mum's expectations of what a child should be , but that only means I get lots of warning of how it could all go wrong/ I'll mess DD up because she's terrified DD will get fat, get into boys,not be academic etc.

You just have to accept ,suck it up and live your life in a way that suits you rather than what would please her , because you'll never be good enough. After all, she's not the mum you want/need , but she's not bending over backwards to gain your approval is she?

AdoraBell · 18/08/2023 17:18

I voted YANBU, but I would leave it. Given what you’ve written I think that raising it and trying to get your mum to talk about will make you the bad guy/jealous etc.

Just concentrate on your own family and when she coos about her perfect DIL either change the subject or do mental bingo.

Also, you say that you are not conventionally attractive, well you got half your DNA from your mum. And I’d be willing to bet that your DH finds you attractive.

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