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Mother making her child's mother tongue a language she herself hardly knows

114 replies

AdoraLovesCake · 13/08/2023 09:34

I have never done an AIBU before.

This morning I went to a cafe in the UK (where I live) with my 5 year old daughter.
A woman in front of me in the long queue turns around and asks my daughter how old she is. DD replies that she is five then goes to look at the cakes.
I then crouch down to the boy holding the woman's hand (he looked age 2 or 3) and I say "Hello little one, how old are you?"
He stares blankly at me and his mother says, "Oh no. He doesn't speak English." And I think "Ok, he doesn't speak at all."
But then his mother says, "He doesn't speak ENGLISH. He speaks Spanish. Even though my partner and I don't speak Spanish very well, and we intend to live in England forever. Our friend said Spanish was easy so we taught our son that. Then when he's older, he can learn English. He'll have a bigger brain by then.
She then was about to order and I saw her type into google translate for her son, "Do you want a cookie?"

Poor boy. Why would you teach your child as their first language a language that you don't know? He's going to turn into a five year old, not understanding anything anyone is saying, having to learn English, a very hard language. Babies will pick up their first language much easier won't they.

YABU: This is normal and a good approach to parenting
YANBU: Agree with OP, this is weird

xxxx Cora

OP posts:
BarbaraV · 13/08/2023 10:50

Oh I really really wanted the kid to say no comprende, amigo

Clymene · 13/08/2023 10:52

@80sMum Grin

WirKindervomBahnhofZoo · 13/08/2023 10:54

Que?

Thatboymum · 13/08/2023 10:57

What time in the bloody morning were you at a cafe on a Sunday when you posted this just after 9am and said you had been to a cafe this morning 🥱

YouAreBeingUnbearable · 13/08/2023 10:58

Course she did, Cora (the explora) 😂

Genevieva · 13/08/2023 11:01

He’ll understand English just be living in an English speaking environment. He may have language difficulties as well, which they are not noticing. Or he may have learnt that his parents don’t want him to speak in English.

Genevieva · 13/08/2023 11:02

It indeed this is a fiction…

PonyPatter44 · 13/08/2023 11:07

If you think about it, Officer Crabtree was phenomenally brave. He was living in Nazi-occupied France, he had infiltrated the local police, so was at risk of betrayal every single day, he was wearing an enemy uniform, and he didn't speak French very well. He was amazing (or amozing, if you prefer!).

JaukiVexnoydi · 13/08/2023 11:10

Children learn to speak by listening to fluent speakers, the learning starts a long time before they try to speak. In order for him to not learn english they would have to never speak english in his presence which clearly they aren't doing. If they never speak to him except n poorly-pronounced unfluent spanish he will also have some vocabulary in poorly-pronounced unfluent spanish but that won't make him a spanish speaker.

Ghosttofu99 · 13/08/2023 11:13

This sounds made up. Or you misunderstood. Or they were teasing you. If the kid goes to places like cafes and is spoken to by people like you then they would learn some basic words like ‘hello’ or when someone was asking their name even if the parents only spoke a different language in front of them. (Assuming not learning difficulties)

Wouldyouguess · 13/08/2023 11:13

Sugargliderwombat · 13/08/2023 09:51

I have seen an instrgrammer who sends their child to a Spanish speaking nursery for no real reason. Very odd.

The reason being having a bilingual child?

At least the kid will be taught by native speakers and speak to other children whose mother tongue it is. If it was not prohibitively expensive Id sent my kids to one too.

JanieEyre · 13/08/2023 11:14

Either she was pulling your leg, or you are pulling ours. This plan so obviously clearly wouldn't work, unless the parents have no friends or relatives and never leave their child with a baby-sitter - because how could they force everyone else to speak Spanish? To say nothing of the fact that he hears English whenever he goes out, and probably for most of the time on TV. And if the parents have really been speaking nothing but Spanish at home since this child was born, they would certainly be able to say "Do you want a cookie" without using an online translator.

It's just possible, I suppose, that this child is non-verbal and this is the mother's way of deflecting inquiries.

Hobnobswantshernameback · 13/08/2023 11:15

This place used to be funny and clever

Clymene · 13/08/2023 11:15

@Wouldyouguess - maybe all the other kids at the nursery are also English and hoping to learn Spanish Grin

bellac11 · 13/08/2023 11:16

abqkep · 13/08/2023 10:02

I think you need to be a bit embarrassed you spent time writing that OP 😂

This

Although also applies to me trying to make sense of it and slowly realising its rubbish

Maaate · 13/08/2023 11:23

Worra load of cojones

DinnaeFashYersel · 13/08/2023 11:24

That's a very detailed conversation to have with a stranger in a coffee shop.

She old you her life story and life plan in the queue.

Meatus · 13/08/2023 11:26
Sure Jan GIF

Sí

DinnaeFashYersel · 13/08/2023 11:28

Cherrysoup · 13/08/2023 09:49

Madness, if true (checks date, not April 1st!)

A colleague of mine taught herself Welsh, she is Welsh, lives in Wales, but didn’t grow up speaking Welsh. Fair enough, although her city is not known for being a Welsh speaking enclave. She exclusively spoke to her children in Welsh. I think that’s different and justified, but the OP’s example is bonkers. I’d find it hard and I’m fluent! What kind of mangled google translate Spanish is that poor child going to learn.

The Spanish nursery is actually a great idea.

The younger you learn a second language the better.

It helps with brain development and mss as makes it easier to learn more languages.

DinnaeFashYersel · 13/08/2023 11:29

@Cherrysoup

Sorry quotes wrong person.
Meant to quote he person talking about the Spanish nursery school.

EggOverEasy · 13/08/2023 11:29

If you believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'm trying to sell.

GreenKimono · 13/08/2023 11:31

DinnaeFashYersel · 13/08/2023 11:24

That's a very detailed conversation to have with a stranger in a coffee shop.

She old you her life story and life plan in the queue.

You mean you don’t buttonhole strangers in queues, telling them your parenting quirks, your friend’s opinion of the difficulty of Spanish, and exclaiming ‘We plan to live in England forever!’, possibly while raising a small St George’s flag up a tiny, portable flagpole?

Poivresel · 13/08/2023 11:33

Sugargliderwombat · 13/08/2023 09:51

I have seen an instrgrammer who sends their child to a Spanish speaking nursery for no real reason. Very odd.

My dgs lives in Wales and went to a welsh speaking nursery. He speaks welsh and English fluently.

IncompleteSenten · 13/08/2023 11:34

Really?
That's what she said?

Sorry. Not buying it.

CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo · 13/08/2023 11:38

Daily Mail getting desperate? Deadline looming?

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