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Who was unreasonable - kicking my dog.

98 replies

Cocomelon2023 · 10/08/2023 22:16

I have a big dog -often people become quite - well medium sized technically scared of her just by the way she looks.
she is however not reactive and very friendly !
she is always 100 percent on lead unless is in an designated enclosed dog area.

on our way to the park yesterday, we crossed a road and had to walk down the pavement where there is a few shops and a coffee shop. it wasn’t a wide pavement, I also had 2 kids with me. My dog loves other dogs but I do understand why many around here don’t like their dog interacting with mine so I always ensure she only goes over ( on lead ) if the owner says it’s ok.
as we were walking past the coffee shop I did not see that a women who was say on the outside table has a dog under the table with no lead on. As we went to past the table the dog reacted to my dog and leaped out from under the table yapping. Tbh I knew my dog wouldn’t react And I had her on lead and there was no where else for me to go other than in to the main road That I just went to carry on walking. Immediately though the women picked up her dog in a panic and boots my dog with quite some force.
I was a bit taken back to be honest and said what did she think she was doing, she said my dog shouldn’t be near hers.

who was unreasonable here ?!

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Devilinthedeet · 11/08/2023 10:50

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Cocomelon2023 · 11/08/2023 11:36

Yes in public places she is always on a lead as I think all dogs should be.
she has off the lead time in specific areas like dog parks.

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PugInTheHouse · 11/08/2023 11:39

This is awful, I have a similar breed (alaskan malamute) and have had a couple of unpleasant run ins for absolutely no reason.

I know my dog is scared of groups of men (no idea why) so I will cross the road to avoid, he isn't aggressive towards them but will try and hid from them and gets quite anxious. If I knew my dog would react to a specific breed then I would cross the road to avoid also, I wouldn't put my dog or the other dog (who has essentially done nothing wrong) in a difficult position. It absolutely amazes me how many people who walk past my dog knowing they are scared of the big fluffy dogs then their dog reacts to him just being there but then shout at me because my dog then tried to go over to them, FFS your dog has jumped in mines face so your lucky mine is calm and doesn't really react other than wanting to play.

No way should that lady have had her dog unsecured if there was a chance it was reactive in any way. That is why I don't take my pug to cafes, we tried and tried to train him but he just reacts to every person and dog, not aggressively but because he wants to say hi. He doesn't if we tell him not to but obv in a cafe I'd have to sit watching him to tell him not to react so it's better to leave him at home as he ends up so stressed about it all (and it's annoying for other people)

KarmaStar · 11/08/2023 11:45

I voted Yabu purely for your reaction and post!
That woman would be paying for her assault on my dog.👿👿
Your dog was nbu how he responded.
But why ask for validation when your dog was innocent ?

Neonyellowfish · 11/08/2023 11:47

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In front of your children, while holding on to a big dog who's just been kicked?

Neonyellowfish · 11/08/2023 11:51

GoodChat · 11/08/2023 11:48

In front of your children, while holding on to a big dog who's just been kicked?

So letting someone attack your dog in front of your children is better?

Yes, I would of dropped the lead and hit her.

Anyone kicks my dog is getting a smack back. Il teach my kids you don’t let people attack you or your pets and just walk off.

GoodChat · 11/08/2023 11:53

@Neonyellowfish no, it's not better. It should never have happened, but I don't think what you're claiming you would do is sensible either.

ActDottie · 11/08/2023 11:55

The woman, I have a dog who can bark at other dogs so when I take her out to cafes etc. I either choose a table that hidden away or if that’s not available I am on high alert because people and dogs can trigger her so I make sure I’m ready to distract her when needed. You were definitely not in the wrong.

Bonbon21 · 11/08/2023 11:57

You are obviiusly a nicer calmer person than me cos I would have pinned her against the wall and force fed her her bloody dog!!
Bitch from hell.
People are so ignorant with animals.

Neonyellowfish · 11/08/2023 11:58

GoodChat · 11/08/2023 11:53

@Neonyellowfish no, it's not better. It should never have happened, but I don't think what you're claiming you would do is sensible either.

Sensible doesn’t matter if someone hits my dog. They are having it.

jannier · 11/08/2023 11:59

Her dog was out of control

magicstar1 · 11/08/2023 13:00

I'd have smacked the crap out of that bitch! I have a dog reactive German Shepherd who we've been working on for the past three years. She's brilliant with people and can be in crowds with no issues. I'd have lost my mind if someone kicked her like that. Her dog was out of control, not yours.

Cherrysoup · 11/08/2023 13:09

What did you say to the horrible cow? I’d have gone ballistic! My lot are equally friendly so I would have been screaming at her.

OnTheRunWithMannyMontana · 11/08/2023 13:10

I would have kicked her.

Work2live · 11/08/2023 13:27

So sorry this happened to your dog @Cocomelon2023 it’s horrendous.

Something needs to be done about off-lead dogs, especially in public places. I completely relate as we also have a “big scary dog” (staffy/boxer cross who is normally very placid) but I totally get what you say about assuming blame in these situations because of the breed of your dog.

We’ve experienced some vile behaviour while walking ours (always on-lead) from other off-lead dog owners because theirs has approached ours aggressively and growled/bitten, causing him to react in turn. I’m actually surprised we’ve never experienced something similar to you. It’s like we’re automatically at fault, even when ours is on-lead and the other dog isn’t.

Hope your lovely dog is ok.

littleripper · 11/08/2023 13:32

She attacked your dog for no reason, obviously she's a lunatic and utterly unreasonable

FOJN · 11/08/2023 13:35

You did nothing wrong. I'd have been furious.

It's no wonder the woman's dog reacted to yours if the owner is that highly strung.

I'm not convinced she really believed your dog was a threat either, I sure as hell would not provoke a large dog by kicking it if I thought it was dangerous.

She's a terrible dog owner. I hope your poor dog is OK.

Rivermedway · 11/08/2023 13:39

I thought you were going to say you had a ‘scary’ breed such as Rottweiler, Alsatian or Bull breed, not a fluffy husky.

Her dog was off lead, your dog didn’t interact with it and was on lead, she was so in the wrong. She could easily be prosecuted for what she did.

Hope you and your pooch are okay.

Fraaahnces · 11/08/2023 13:54

I hate dog owners like that. I have a giant breed (Shiloh Shepherd.) She’s big for a female of this breed at 65kg. They’re an assistance breed. Normally bomb-proof temperaments, however she was attacked by two off-leash American Pitt Bulls (with matching feral owners) and was badly hurt. She now has PTSD and is afraid of dogs. She’s perfect with adults and my kids (late teens now, but always was) I don’t believe in off-leash dog walking - ever. (Many reasons). Where we live, every latte carrying, Birkenstock-wearing knob has some kind of “oodle” off leash. They are not bad dogs, but they are very friendly. They bounce in her face and she tries so hard not to react. I pat her and soothe her and yell out to get the knob owner’s attention. “Come and get your dog please, my dog is scared and she will snap.” They laugh and say “Don’t worry he’s friendly.” , “She doesn’t know that. Get your dog!” By this time, my dog has started yelping and pulling away and baring her teeth and every time THEY tell me she’s vicious. (She never bites them, btw…) I have to walk her at antisocial times to avoid them.

Cocomelon2023 · 11/08/2023 13:59

I know looking back I should of said more. But was aware 1. I had the bigger dog 2. That we were on the middle of the pavement with a dog and 2 kids so didn’t want to cause a scene. She is ok to those who asked.

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Leonberger · 11/08/2023 14:08

I would have gone nuts too. Your poor dog.

I always have mine on leads because of the size. Lots of dogs are aggressive to those bigger than them, unfortunately for mine they are bigger than almost everything so most dogs have a go. I don’t want them blamed for an incident because of their type or breed so choose not to let them interact with others.

I probably get bothered at least twice a walk by some yappy little poodle type. Yesterday I got called a fucking bitch and told to stand bloody still because I turned and walked away taking said yappy little dog with me as it would not recall and I was sick of waiting while my dogs dog agitated by it. He’s lucky my dogs who are about 10 times the size didn’t retaliate and squash it.

The world is full of idiots forcing their horrible untrained dogs on us and there’s nothing at all we can do about it.

TheWomanTheyCallJayne · 11/08/2023 14:15

I’m glad she’s okay.
My younger dog is friendly, well behaved but slightly nervous. I was out walking last week and the route took us through a busy seaside town. She behaved impeccably walking next to me and not reacting to anything.
Until we passed an off lead colliewallydooddlepoo (can you tell I have no time for these stupid ‘breed’ names that most of the time end up untrained?!) that I hadn’t seen and jumped out barking at her. She skittered across in front of me and I stood on her paw and jolted my hip trying not to fall on her.
We had to get collected as she started limping and couldn’t go out the next day.

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