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Children running around restaurant WWYD?

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AutisticLegoLover · 07/08/2023 13:13

Please could you tell me what you'd do in this situation:

In a hotel restaurant at breakfast there were two young children about age 4 running around and screeching. It wasn't clear where the parents/adults were that they were with. They were eating while running in front of guests who were carrying hot drinks and food from the breakfast buffet and going up to other tables and carrying on their screeching.

What would you do in this situation?

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ilovesooty · 07/08/2023 17:31

No way should you have been identified as a complainant. The staff were well out of order there and I think I'd be escalating the issue.

Ghostjail · 07/08/2023 17:33

Yes. I think this has now escalated to a hotel problem rather than a guest problem. As a manager, I would have spoken to the parent and told them in no uncertain terms that if their children can not sit down in the busy restaurant then we would be happy to serve them their food in their room or another quiet area of the hotel. I would have told them that I could not risk their children, my staff or other guest being burned. They would have been given a minute to get their kids to the table and if they got up again I would have told them to leave.

If you can speak to the hotel and tell them that the waiting staff mishandled the situation and as a result you were threatened by another guest. As you have done nothing wrong you do not expect to be annexed but suggest that the misbehaving children and threatening adult are instead.

Purplebunnie · 07/08/2023 17:34

Ghostjail · 07/08/2023 17:33

Yes. I think this has now escalated to a hotel problem rather than a guest problem. As a manager, I would have spoken to the parent and told them in no uncertain terms that if their children can not sit down in the busy restaurant then we would be happy to serve them their food in their room or another quiet area of the hotel. I would have told them that I could not risk their children, my staff or other guest being burned. They would have been given a minute to get their kids to the table and if they got up again I would have told them to leave.

If you can speak to the hotel and tell them that the waiting staff mishandled the situation and as a result you were threatened by another guest. As you have done nothing wrong you do not expect to be annexed but suggest that the misbehaving children and threatening adult are instead.

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AutisticLegoLover · 07/08/2023 17:39

I don't expect children to be seen and not heard either. I expect children to make some noise and be children. What I don't expect is screeching and running around in a restaurant. All other families were sat quietly eating and chatting without screeching and running around.

I might contact customer services as it was the hotel manager I spoke to who said they could basically do nothing about it and that could be segregated or have breakfast in my room. Why should we be segregated due to the poor behaviour of others? I've never had an issue at other hotels full of families having breakfast.

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FarEast · 07/08/2023 17:39

Yes, what @Ghostjail says.

@AutisticLegoLover would it help if we all "workshopped" what you might say to the hotel manager? A version of what @Ghostjail writes:

the waiting staff mishandled the situation and as a result you were threatened by another guest. As you have done nothing wrong you do not expect to be annexed but suggest that the misbehaving children and threatening adult are instead.

AutisticLegoLover · 07/08/2023 17:43

I'm open to any suggestions, thank you.
I feel like my world is getting smaller since knowing I'm autistic and the offer to segregate me was upsetting. My children love the breakfast experience and consider it the best bit of staying in a hotel.

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Conkersinautumn · 07/08/2023 17:46

Grabbed my stuff and left. Children running around, threatening behaviour from parents. Possible meltdown territory One of the many reasons why for why to me as an autistic person NT spaces just don't feel safe or welcoming.

Bandyarsia · 07/08/2023 18:00

A bowl of fruit salad right over the noggin. Whoops are you ok you poor poppet, you bumped right into me. Go get Mommy to clean you up.

MrsR87 · 07/08/2023 18:03

AutisticLegoLover · 07/08/2023 17:39

I don't expect children to be seen and not heard either. I expect children to make some noise and be children. What I don't expect is screeching and running around in a restaurant. All other families were sat quietly eating and chatting without screeching and running around.

I might contact customer services as it was the hotel manager I spoke to who said they could basically do nothing about it and that could be segregated or have breakfast in my room. Why should we be segregated due to the poor behaviour of others? I've never had an issue at other hotels full of families having breakfast.

Totally agree with the children’s behaviour. Mine are almost three and almost one. I would not allow them to be running around and shrieking because; 1 - it’s dangerous and 2 - it’s very annoying to other patrons! I of course am not going to keep them absolutely silent either…the three year old loves to chat about his food with is and waiting staff and does get excited when his food arrives but that’s not dangerous or inconsiderate in my opinion.

I would be complaining about the manager as it’s wholly inappropriate to say which guests have made a complaint. They don’t even need to say there have been complaints, just that the behaviour is dangerous and out of order!

Holidaystress11 · 07/08/2023 18:05

I would tell them off. Hopefully that qould embarass them and they will skulk back to mum/dad

FarmGirl78 · 07/08/2023 18:06

Go over and tell the parents that there's a well known paedophile known to use the restaurant and they'd be better to keep their kids safely seated at the table in their immediate sight at all times.

LookItsMeAgain · 07/08/2023 18:11

@AutisticLegoLover "I might contact customer services as it was the hotel manager I spoke to who said they could basically do nothing about it and that could be segregated or have breakfast in my room. Why should we be segregated due to the poor behaviour of others? I've never had an issue at other hotels full of families having breakfast"

That's bad that the General Manager said that to you.

At this point what I would do is find the hotel on Tripadvisor and write your feedback there.

Twyford · 07/08/2023 18:31

FourTeaFallOut · 07/08/2023 14:45

Threatened by four year olds?

Threatened by the parent, obviously. Try reading OP's posts fully.

Twyford · 07/08/2023 18:32

Fiddlerdragon · 07/08/2023 13:19

My dd’s dad did this to a kid last week 🤦🏼‍♀️ he took her to see the barbie movie for her birthday and there were two kids being absolute terrors for the entire film. The mum shouted at them to shut up and sit down but they ignored her and she didn’t really do anything else about it. He stuck his leg out into the aisle they were tearing up and down in and one of the kids went flying over it

Oh, what happened next, do tell.

Twyford · 07/08/2023 18:36

LookItsMeAgain · 07/08/2023 16:01

@AutisticLegoLover When you said you spoke with the manager, was that the restaurant manager or the hotel general manager?

I'd be having words with the General Manager saying that you raised an issue with the restaurant manager as there were children running around the restaurant and they were making a lot of noise. The restaurant manager pointed you out to other guests as someone who complained about the noise their kids were making, instead of saying "Guests are complaining that your children are making a lot of noise. Please remember, this is a restaurant and not a playground. It's a safety issue and a hazard if your children are running around our waiting staff who could be carrying hot food and drinks, so please tell them to stay sitting down until breakfast is over".
If they didn't sit down, room service breakfast should have been offered as an alternative for the noisy family.

That's my take on it.

I agree with this. It could be worth suggesting to the manager that if they won't take action to provide a safe environment they are in breach of H&S requirements, and if they won't take action to provide a reasonably quiet environment they are in breach of their duty to make reasonable adjustments for your disability.

Cherrysoup · 07/08/2023 18:39

I’d totally expect the staff to get the kids sat down and if the parents kicked up a fuss, they should be asked to leave. It’s absolutely disgraceful behaviour when it impacts on other paying customers.

Enfys1982 · 07/08/2023 18:40

There was an incident near me some years ago where staff at a pub politely asked a family to control their kids who were running and riot and they kicked off, assaulted one of the bar men and smashed the place to bits. It went to court and everything. Might explain why some people are scared to intervene.

SleepingStandingUp · 07/08/2023 18:40

Fiddlerdragon · 07/08/2023 13:19

My dd’s dad did this to a kid last week 🤦🏼‍♀️ he took her to see the barbie movie for her birthday and there were two kids being absolute terrors for the entire film. The mum shouted at them to shut up and sit down but they ignored her and she didn’t really do anything else about it. He stuck his leg out into the aisle they were tearing up and down in and one of the kids went flying over it

Assuming he's an ex?

LemonPeonies · 07/08/2023 18:50

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Amispringy · 07/08/2023 18:50

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Stay classy.

WunWun · 07/08/2023 18:55

Amispringy · 07/08/2023 18:50

Stay classy.

Just out of interest, what would you do if an adult purposefully hurt your child in front of you?

LemonPeonies · 07/08/2023 18:55

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Blubbafish · 07/08/2023 18:59

Fiddlerdragon · 07/08/2023 13:19

My dd’s dad did this to a kid last week 🤦🏼‍♀️ he took her to see the barbie movie for her birthday and there were two kids being absolute terrors for the entire film. The mum shouted at them to shut up and sit down but they ignored her and she didn’t really do anything else about it. He stuck his leg out into the aisle they were tearing up and down in and one of the kids went flying over it

That's horrible. It's not the kids fault their parent wasn't doing their job.

Amispringy · 07/08/2023 19:00

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Excuse me.

I have children. I've never had to chase them round a restaurant though because I'm a good mother.

But you do you

Incidentally, I realise you're having trouble with comprehension, but I merely asked what you would do.

Your hysterical responses tell me all I need to know

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