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To be terrified of driving abroad?

98 replies

FranceCalling · 02/08/2023 19:29

Name changed as I am so embarrassed Blush
My 2 DD and I are due to go on holiday soon to France, and in a moment of bravery or madness, I decided to drive as due to multiple disabilities in our family theoretically it should be easier and a lot less stressful.

Except I have never driven abroad before and I am absolutely terrified. I am the only driver, and even the thought of driving off the ferry is making me so anxious. To be honest, even driving on to the ferry isnt much better, I am anxious over everything - getting in the right lane, parking with enough room for my chair and so on.

Then driving in France - the tolls. The motorways. The junctions. I keep telling myself to woman up, that thousands of other people do it every day, but I keep telling myself to just book Eurostar instead!

Does anyone have any tips at all please? I have watched hundreds of youtube vidoes, practiced going round the park roundabouts in my wheelchair the opposite way (must have looked a right twat!) and I still just cant see it happening Sad

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TropicalTrama · 03/08/2023 17:12

AntiStuff · 03/08/2023 14:46

Wow! No idea what part of France you drive in, but we've just driven down to Occitanie & back (ten hours each way from Belgium) and the service stations were nothing like that! Toilets immaculate in each one, loo roll plentiful, only encountered one long queue, some good food options (at the very least you can almost always get a baguette and packets of ham/cheese to diy it).

Agree that having a tag is a bonus for the tolls, you can order one here https://www.emovis-tag.co.uk/ but it takes a while to come. The cost can add up on a long drive, our total tolls for this trip were £138, but the roads are a dream so I don't begrudge it.

Don't worry about the roundabouts, usually it will feel counter intuitive to go around them clockwise because of the way the approach will be angled.

When I first started driving in Europe the danger points for me would be immediately after coming off of the ferry, or after I'd taken a short break to get food or petrol.

Honestly though, it's a far nicer experience than driving over here, and will feel completely natural after a couple of days. Hope you have a lovely holiday.

Calais to Cannes is our typical journey. So pretty much the whole length of France. Do it several times a year and also to go skiing to the Alps as have a French DH who dislikes flying but has a very large family with elderly parents. He actually always comments on how nice English service stations are- clean toilets, waitrose, no flies!! I even peed in the toddler toilet once this weekend to save time as was in the baby change with DS and didn’t fancy going back to a huge snaking queue and wasting another 15 minutes afterwards (in reference to the other thread no I don’t normally lock it but yes I did that time) 🤣

enchantedsquirrelwood · 03/08/2023 17:35

I wouldn't do it; I drove in Australia because it was on the left hand side; and I drove once, in Finland, up in the north where there were no other cars.

I have cycled around European countries ok, I can cope with being on the right hand side (your wheelchair practice round parks sounds much like my cycling around a roundabout in the Netherlands :) ) but I wouldn't do the long trips in France that people seem to enjoy so much!

I can see lots by rail and bus and that is fine for me :)

Ferries can be awkward but I think the cross-channel ones are fine as you drive on and off in a straight line - avoid the ones to, or via, the Channel Islands as they have you manoeuvring into the smallest of gaps to fill up the boat efficiently.

However, as you say there are disabilities, it does sound like it would be much easier than faffing around trying to get to St Pancras and get Eurostar - also what do you want to do when you get there - do you want to drive to places?

Sorry but that's terrible advice. The OP is just nervous. If you don't do things because you're nervous you never do anything yes but if there's a safer and less stressful alternative? The question here though is whether it actually would be less stress.

Love the advice of "bum in gutter" :)

enchantedsquirrelwood · 03/08/2023 17:37

thenightsky · 02/08/2023 22:15

The worst part of driving in France is coming back to Southern England's horrible motorways after you've got used to lovely French roads.

Maybe the answer to this is to go from Newhaven instead ;)

HundredMilesAnHour · 03/08/2023 17:44

Ferries can be awkward

Sorry, I read that as Ferraris can be awkward and thought "chance would be a fine thing!" 😂

iolaus · 03/08/2023 17:45

How old are your daughters?

Are they old enough that one would be in the front seat (and deal with the tolls)

DH doesn't drive so when we've driven to France it's been me driving - but him navigating, doing tolls etc and he will check when getting on from slip roads etc

Dutch1e · 03/08/2023 17:45

I found the trickiest bit was when coming into a T-Junction and turning into the wrong lane. BUT... that was only when there were no other cars around (so not a danger to anyone). When there are other cars on the road you immediately feel oriented and naturally head into the correct place. You'll be fine, truly.

Dbank · 03/08/2023 18:47

It's good to be concerned, but honestly you'll be fine. my top tips are...

  1. Set your destination on the sat nav before you leave the UK, as you drive straight off on the French side.
  2. Get a toll transponder. https://www.bipandgo.com/en/. Saves the panic at the toll booths, and makes you feel smug!
  3. Some petrol stations you have to pre-authorise on a credit / debit card. before the juice will flow, which is a bit weird.
  4. Driving on the right is easier than you might think, just follow everyone else.
  5. Due to being an ex-biker, I always turn my head and look behind before changing lanes, this is especially important when driving a RHD car on LHD roads.
  6. But, be careful when turning onto a road to look the right way,(check both) especially after doing U- turns.
  7. Avoid driving at night.
  8. Work out the number of miles a day you feel comfortable doing, and try to stick to it.
  9. French roads are better than the UK, and I think drivers are generally better than the UK, although they do love to tail gate.
  10. Get hi-vis jackets for all occupants, and road hazard lights (The changes are very slim that you'll need them, but having been involved in a motorway prank in the dark I wouldn't drive without them)
  11. Speed cameras are often concealed.
  12. Relax! It will be fun and your confidence will grow, it's good that you take it seriously and I'm sure you'll have fun, please let us know!

Bip&Go electronic toll payment: your Liber-t pass delivered anywhere in France in 48 hrs when you subscribe online to our plans

https://www.bipandgo.com/en/

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 03/08/2023 18:51

MintJulia · 02/08/2023 19:44

There is one easy rule that applies everywhere so shouldn't confuse you.

If you always drive a local car, then you, the driver, & the steering wheel should always be close to the middle of the road.

In the UK we drive right hand drive cars, and we drive on the left, which means the driver is always close to the centre line of the road.

In France etc, if you are driving a French car, will be a left hand drive car, and they drive on the right, so the driver is again close to the centre line of the road.

I stick with that to make sure I'm always in the right place.

Totally agree with this although I was told the rule was to ensure the passenger side is always nearest to the kerb, has the same effect though and has made driving abroad much easier.

FranceCalling · 01/09/2023 20:52

I did it!!!!! I am in no hurry to do it again, but I did it! The hardest part was actually driving on to the ferry at Dover as it was very early, very dark and the number of lanes was overwhelming Blush

Went pretty much straight on to the motorway, had to stop at the services so practiced a bit in the car park, then off we went. Four hours and two tolls later we arrived, DDs a lot less stressed than when we travel on Eurostar which I had also booked as a backup.

The advice to just go the wrong way if needed and follow sat nav to get back on the correct route worked a treat thank you, and I also adapted my route to avoid a scary looking 4th turn at a roundabout although I did manage smaller roundabouts.

Definitely not as scary as I was thinking, but definitely thank you to all pps for all your tips as they were very helpful Flowers

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Florabelle · 01/09/2023 21:20

Great update!! Go you, next time will be easier again, promise xx

YesitsBess · 01/09/2023 21:23

Look at you go! You did it!

Doodar · 01/09/2023 21:27

Make sure your speedometer is set to kph. I find in a uk car there’s a millisecond blind spot on eu roads , get one of those side mirror extenders.
I mark my left hand to remind me of roundabouts. Good luck op x

CurlyTop1980 · 01/09/2023 21:34

Driving in France is way more easier then the UK. Their "motorways" are like A roads. The 'slower' drivers stay in the left hand land and get over taken. Then that car moves back to the left. You get used to it. Honestly driving in rhe UK is so complicated

supersop60 · 01/09/2023 23:33

Brava!

Dbank · 02/09/2023 08:00

Thanks for the update, glad to hear you did so well. We were all rooting for you! (or should that be routing for you?).

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 02/09/2023 08:12

YANBU. I'm a very confident driver but the thought of going abroad and driving on the other side of the road terrifies me. I wouldn't do it as I think I'd be dangerous. Luckily DH is fine with it and does all the driving if we hire a car on holiday. I'm very grateful for that!

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 02/09/2023 08:14

Just seen your update. Good on you!

enchantedsquirrelwood · 02/09/2023 21:16

Well done OP - I am in awe of you and anyone else who drives in France!

Begonne · 03/09/2023 09:34

Well done op. You rock!

BitOutOfPractice · 03/09/2023 09:42

MrsJBaptiste · 02/08/2023 22:10

Yeah, beautiful empty roads until the French come up behind you desperate to overtake at 1000km per hour... hideous.

I love driving but abroad and in my own car? No thanks. The French only have to see that GB sticker and they go off!!!

That’s just not the case op. The French are, in my experience much calmer motorway drivers than the brits. And I have driven many thousands of miles on them! As a bonus the toll motorways are quiet and beautifully designed. Once you get going you’ll be fine. The fact that everyone else is driving on the right makes it all just obvious.

BitOutOfPractice · 03/09/2023 09:44

Oh I’ve just seen your update. Bloody well done op!

zingally · 03/09/2023 10:57

Roads in France are much nicer/easier than roads in the UK!

Saying that though, you couldn't pay me enough to drive in Paris! From a pedestrians pov, it looks absolute chaos!

BellaJuno · 03/09/2023 11:24

Great update OP!

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