to still book our DS (16) as a 15 year old at a Premier Inn?

[VioletOrange]

I’m probably going to get a flaming for this but here goes.

We only have DS, he can’t stay in a PI by himself until he’s 18. If we booked him in as an adult, as he’s classed as one now he’s 16, we’d have to pay for another room. So for now, while we can still just about get away with it, we book him in as a child stating he’s 15.

In one PI where we’ve stayed many times over the years, a couple of the regular staff are aware but they’re ok with this. He doesn’t get up for breakfast so doesn’t benefit from the ‘kids eat free’ deal.

AIBU to carry on doing this for as long as we can get away with it? Not that he’ll likely still want to come away with us in the next few years.

My personal opinion is that on the one hand they class 18+ as adults but want to charge a 16 year old adult prices.

Because as stated several times PI only allow 2 adults in a room

I'm not sure that is true? Has the OP phoned to ask about a family room? Online only lets you get a double or whatever with 2 adults - but Family rooms do exist, so a phone call might resolve the issue

And because PI are profiteering from people who want to share rooms with adult family members.

They’re greedy.

But it’s easy to work around.

OK - so I just googled it and see that 3 adults can't share one room. Apologies

You admitted you did this, I.e. lied and stole because you could so I don’t see how PPs are making ‘wild and ridiculous assumptions’ about you.

You are ridiculing posters who say it is dishonest and wrong. I hardly think people who don’t purposely lie and steal for their own gain ‘need to polish their halos’ as you put it.

You also say you wouldn’t do it to a small B and B owner. Why if you’re actions are perfectly acceptable? Or does it only count as stealing if the company’s profits are below a certain amount??

Yeah that pretty much sums it up, you’ve understood me totally. Bothered about a few hash browns from PI, no I’m not!

Same as if I was under charged in a small local gift shop, I’d tell them. If I was undercharged in Tesco, I would walk away.

Same here, @Bumpitybumper.

A depressing minority it seems, though.

My cousin works for the council, as did his dad. He was raised to think nothing of stealing bin liners, light bulbs and other supplies from the taxpayer, because "they won't miss it" or "they can afford it" and because of some "fuck those hoity toity managers" mentality.

Now after 20 years in the job, he boasts about thieving hundreds worth of paint, power tools, etc, and going home during his shift to work on DIY with council-purchased materials, and various other schemes. I have contempt for him.

There are honest people, and then there are those with the scammer mentality.

It's like that famous quote about prostitution, "Madam, we've established what you are; now we're just haggling about the price."

I am missing your point?

I’ve been told I lack integrity and a good moral compass.

I meant seriously?! 😂

Really? Completely unnecessary.
Stop being a bullying bitch.

That previous comment was to you, Missingpup, for that.
Uncalled for.

To be honest I think the same. I don't think your actions are massively serious in the grand scheme of things, but I think often relatively minor things can tell you a lot about someone's character and moral judgement. It's like when I hear people say vicious and unkind comments about their supposed friends or see someone blatantly take advantage of another person's generosity. I'm not going to call the police in or accuse them of committing the crime of the century but of course I will judge them negatively for what they have done.

Integrity is defined as 'the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles'. You are not only suggesting in the PI scenario that it's absolutely fine to lie but that you think it's ridiculous that you should be judged for lying. In this context I doubt this is the only scenario where you would be willing to play fast and loose with the truth for personal financial gain so unsurprisingly this does make me question your integrity.

I think Zelda has left herself wide open by calling a pp a Scab! Nice!

And was she the one who called us

grifting mingers

I bet her children have been taught to name call and I bet they’ve says far worse. It’s after all what they’re taught!

Not boasting the OP asked a question, that was my reply.

I don’t see it as ripping anyone off tbh. The room is the same size as when it was me, partner, child 1 was 15 and child 2 even younger, now one child is 18, it’s the same room, same size bed. So I don’t see the problem.

At least I’m not judgemental and critiquing of other parents, I’m more than happy with the examples I set my children.

I think we’ll still sleep easy knowing that we’ve helped PI along their way.

Exactly. What a charming person.

I’ve mentioned this a few times, as I said I think they’ve built into their business model a few extra mushrooms, hash browns and odd older teen or adult in a family room.

I lie about DC’s ages often, have done for holidays and travel lodge/premier inn, also for train and bus tickets……oh and national trust entry (both dc are down as under 16’s on our m membership card). I’m sure everyone does it? Or almost everyone? 😉. It annoys me that over 16 is classed as an adult when really it should be 18.

Do you generally think it's morally ok to steal from rich people? Does the fact that they have loads of money make it all ok? Such a weird way to justify your actions. If you're doing something that's morally ok then it's ok no matter who the victim is. If you wouldn't be happy to do it to someone worse off then on some level you know it isn't the right thing to do and therefore you shouldn't be doing it at all.

Sorry no I disagree with this, it’s been said the whole way through the thread.

Greedy shareholders, making ridiculous “rules” based on profiteering are far play to dodge their systems.

Is it really steeling? These places throw loads of food away each day from breakfast buffets. I have one dc that can eat loads for breakfast, the other (eldest)would just have a piece of toast or a piece of fruit, yet I would have to pay full price for both if I said they were both over 16. Premier inn make a fortune on rooms, we have stayed in some pretty awful holiday inns and premier inns and paid £100+ for one night.I wouldn’t feel guilty at all about a few free breakfast items.

This poster told me I lacked integrity and a good moral compass