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To think that people who use parent and child spaces without children are selfish *****

535 replies

hotcheeto · 25/07/2023 08:19

Fill in the starred swear word as applicable.

I've only started truly noticing how many idiots do this since I had my baby 4 months ago. I can't believe how many people I've seen do it. And yes I always call them out and have had some pretty disturbing abuse thrown back.

I have also always reported to the shop staff to be told it isn't illegal and there's nothing they can do bar having a parking attendant out constantly which isn't possible (I know this isn't the shop staff's fault).

No disabled spaces? Fair enough, crack on. But this isn't the case 99% of the time. People use them because they are close to the entrance. I would rather the spaces be far away from the entrance with a small trolley park nearby with car seat/child seat trolleys.

Yesterday I purposefully parked straight down the middle of two normal spaces because I didn't want to risk having to reverse out just to get my baby's car seat back in. As I was walking in I witnessed 3 separate very able bodied people walk back to their cars without children.

Just really pees me off 😒

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WeetabixTowels · 25/07/2023 12:32

It may be a first world problem but when you’re a new mum, knackered, May still be bleeding/leaking and car seats are the size of arm chairs, to really need that extra space only to find someone lazy wanker has chosen to park in one, can be the cherry on top of a really shit day.

wingingit1987 · 25/07/2023 12:33

it drives me nuts. I have 5 children aged 9 years-6 months,so it can be a pain if we don’t have room to get in and out.

Hottoffeesauce · 25/07/2023 12:35

I have a disability but don't qualify for a blue badge. I don't park in disabled spaces but do drive around (and around sometimes!) in order to find/wait for an end space which gives me more space to get in and out of my car. You could do that too.

Againstmachine · 25/07/2023 12:36

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You are going a bit overboard here it's a space. You sound batshit.

I will be expecting you are giving the OP same crap about parking over two spaces, oh thought not.

wingingit1987 · 25/07/2023 12:37

YaWeeFurryBastard · 25/07/2023 10:19

Maybe I’m missing the point of the thread but I personally can’t understand why on Earth anyone would want to traipse their baby/small children round a supermarket. Why don’t you just shop online and avoid all the hassle? Ok, some people can’t afford it and need to shop at Aldi/Lidl but I honestly can’t understand why some people treat a supermarket trip like a fun/educational day out.

I’ve found whenever we do an online shop then things are missing/out of stock or they send unsuitable replacements (we have one with multiple allergies so her stuff is usually quite specific). So, I inevitably end up needing to go to the shops anyway.

Nosleepforthismum · 25/07/2023 12:42

SusanandMidge · 25/07/2023 12:07

Are you suggesting they should park in a disabled bay instead?

No, I’m suggesting they are not disabled (otherwise they would park in a disabled bay) and are parking in the P&C for because they are selfish/lazy.

AvengedQuince · 25/07/2023 12:48

You only need the baby, not the seat, just leave that in the car and use a sling or put the baby in a trolley with an infant seat. I only had a 0-4 seat that you used rearfacing then turned around later.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 25/07/2023 12:50

Nosleepforthismum · 25/07/2023 12:42

No, I’m suggesting they are not disabled (otherwise they would park in a disabled bay) and are parking in the P&C for because they are selfish/lazy.

But not everyone with a disability (temporary or permanent) qualify for a blue badge so can't park in a 'disabled bay'.

AvengedQuince · 25/07/2023 12:51

Nosleepforthismum · 25/07/2023 12:42

No, I’m suggesting they are not disabled (otherwise they would park in a disabled bay) and are parking in the P&C for because they are selfish/lazy.

My grandmother has a blue badge but sometimes another space is better for her. She doesn't need much extra space as she can get to her walker if it's at the back of the car, where the space is is more important.

TrueScrumptious · 25/07/2023 12:52

Disabled bays should be near the shop entrance. Parent and child bays should be far from the shop entrance.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 25/07/2023 12:53

AvengedQuince · 25/07/2023 12:48

You only need the baby, not the seat, just leave that in the car and use a sling or put the baby in a trolley with an infant seat. I only had a 0-4 seat that you used rearfacing then turned around later.

In all fairness, not many supermarkets (at least not around here) have those trolleys with the infant seats. There are none in my town at all (only 2 supermarkets) so I'd have to drive to a different town to find one.

When I lived in a city when DS was a baby, we had trolleys with a place to strap the car seat on (sort of where the trolley seat would be) but then it made the trolley too high for me to see over.

I gave up and slinged in the end. Was definitely the better way to do it for me.

FlowersInTheSky · 25/07/2023 12:53

Againstmachine · 25/07/2023 12:36

You are going a bit overboard here it's a space. You sound batshit.

I will be expecting you are giving the OP same crap about parking over two spaces, oh thought not.

I did 🙄 There are lots of dicks in this situation.

HerMammy · 25/07/2023 12:54

@SliceOfCakeCupOfTea
My DD29 has just had a hip replacement and also didn't qualify for a blue badge even though she could barely walk for the last 2 years. I have used P&C when I've had to give her a lift.
If not getting a P&C space is your biggest worry then what an easy life you have eh

Fartooold · 25/07/2023 12:55

Our local Morrisons has loads of parent and child spaces, but they are further away from the entrance.

Parents and children park in normal spaces near the doors and most of the designated P&C spaces are empty🙄

Seems they're not that important then...

I drive a campervan, so routinely park at the far end of any carpark, so no skin in this game.

AvengedQuince · 25/07/2023 12:56

I gave up and slinged in the end. Was definitely the better way to do it for me.

I always used a sling too. Infant car seats are heavy and awkward to lug about if you do have one. You need a sling to manage a baby and trolley if they need picking up anyway.

thaisweetchill · 25/07/2023 13:02

Heronwatcher · 25/07/2023 08:29

And yet you think it’s fine to park across 2 spaces meaning that others might not be able to find a space themselves…

TBH I’ve never understood parent and child spaces. Most if not all times it’s perfectly possible to get a child seat or a child out in a normal space. And it’s not like disabled spaces which are needed because if physical or mental health issues. I think the solution should be to put parent and child spaces a bit further away from the shops so they are less attractive to other shoppers.

But if you’re going to get enraged about this you’ve got a long road ahead- maybe just treat them as a nice if they’re available rather than an essential?

😂😂😂😂😂 clearly your spaces are extremely wide or your car is extremely small

takealettermsjones · 25/07/2023 13:07

MN has always been weird about P&C spaces. There are countless threads about "courtesy" - always bring wine to a dinner party, never play music in your back garden, heaven forbid you'd park across somebody's drive for half a second while you drop something off... But P&C spaces are "just a courtesy" and therefore a free for all. Never did make sense to me!

Stressedoutforever · 25/07/2023 13:08

It annoys me too as I had to carry 2 under 2 across a car park to get into the shop to get a trolley when there were several blokes in vans parked in the parent spaces

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 25/07/2023 13:14

ThisIsACoolUserName · 25/07/2023 12:23

My mum parks in them.
I don't - not because I think there's anything wrong with doing so, but I always just naturally shoot for the back of the carpark to avoid a log jam.
Mum doesn't understand the point of them and managed to raise us without.

Your mum sounds dreadful. My mum has heart failure, she can't walk far without getting breathless and is on a list of medication as long as your arm. She wouldn't dream of parking in a P&C space and despite bring 76 she embraces changes that make things a bit easier for parents these days.

Sirzy · 25/07/2023 13:16

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 25/07/2023 13:14

Your mum sounds dreadful. My mum has heart failure, she can't walk far without getting breathless and is on a list of medication as long as your arm. She wouldn't dream of parking in a P&C space and despite bring 76 she embraces changes that make things a bit easier for parents these days.

How sad that as a society we think someone struggling like that is something to be applauded rather than her using a closer space which would make life easier for her simply because a parent can’t possibly walk a bit further with there child.

ilovesooty · 25/07/2023 13:18

Nosleepforthismum · 25/07/2023 12:42

No, I’m suggesting they are not disabled (otherwise they would park in a disabled bay) and are parking in the P&C for because they are selfish/lazy.

So you've taken no note of the fact that not all disabilities qualify for a blue badge?

Butchyrestingface · 25/07/2023 13:19

Yesterday I purposefully parked straight down the middle of two normal spaces because I didn't want to risk having to reverse out just to get my baby's car seat back in. As I was walking in I witnessed 3 separate very able bodied people walk back to their cars without children.

Aye well, they witnessed YOU parking like a bam so it seems pretty Even Stevens. Grin.

Aliceinwonderland5 · 25/07/2023 13:19

Heronwatcher · 25/07/2023 08:29

And yet you think it’s fine to park across 2 spaces meaning that others might not be able to find a space themselves…

TBH I’ve never understood parent and child spaces. Most if not all times it’s perfectly possible to get a child seat or a child out in a normal space. And it’s not like disabled spaces which are needed because if physical or mental health issues. I think the solution should be to put parent and child spaces a bit further away from the shops so they are less attractive to other shoppers.

But if you’re going to get enraged about this you’ve got a long road ahead- maybe just treat them as a nice if they’re available rather than an essential?

It's really not always possible.
I have 4m old twins and I've literally had to drive off from my local supermarket because the parent child spaces were full and the normal spaces are too small to physically get both the babies out.

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 25/07/2023 13:19

Sirzy · 25/07/2023 13:16

How sad that as a society we think someone struggling like that is something to be applauded rather than her using a closer space which would make life easier for her simply because a parent can’t possibly walk a bit further with there child.

After reading this thread I'm actually going to tell her to use them. I've applied for a blue badge for her.

Sirzy · 25/07/2023 13:22

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 25/07/2023 13:19

After reading this thread I'm actually going to tell her to use them. I've applied for a blue badge for her.

Good. She shouldn’t be left struggling.

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