To think we have despicable, inhumane people running this country

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The Home Secretary, one of the most powerful people in the country, is found to have broken the law by withholding £3 a WEEK to desperate people, including pregnant women and small children. How anyone can consider voting these monsters in again is just beyond my understanding.

What are you referring to?

What was this about?

I clicked on this thinking it might be the send all asylum seekers to Rwanda bollox, that idea in itself shows you who these people are -

We know our current gov are probably the most corrupt and self serving we’ve had. That’s nothing new though, what’s this about?

YANBU. Hopefully they won't be running it much longer. I wonder what new lows Suella can sink to before then. To think I used to think nobody could be a worse home secretary than Priti Patel.

You’re not wrong, its
just new low after new low with Suella Braverman.

You are 100 per cent correct.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/24/suella-braverman-acted-unlawfully-over-asylum-seekers-judge-rules?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

You are absolutely not being unreasonable. They are the most vile right wing government we have ever had.
Their cruelty appears to have no bounds.

Yanbu I find them all sickening now

How these vulnerable people could have been denied nutritious food is beyond me.

YANBU

Also, who are they actually trying to appeal to with these policies? The sort of people who actually begrudge child refugees a few pounds a week are surely few and far between even amongst the anti-immigration brigade. A few hardcore Kipper votes aren't going to win them the next election.

I had to read the article twice as I honestly thought I must have misunderstood.
It really does seem that just when you think they’ve reached a new low, they go lower still.

Exactly. Perhaps it is just cruelty for its own sake ?

I wonder how you get this self serving and lacking in any compassion. Is it too much of a certain product you get from a certain American country, or are they just unhinged?

34% of voters on this thread (currently) seem to be delusional. Of course OP is not BU.

Well on other threads there are people salivating at the prospect of inheritance tax being reduced or removed.

Always make me laugh when the BBC etc go on about european country x might vote in a far right govt.... have they ever looked at say the VOX party in Spain and compared Manifesto's with the Tory party?

We have a Govt further to the right (in many respects, not all) of le Penn's RN or the freedom party in Austria.

Look at Israel? considered to have a extreme right wing govt in power, they ve just curtailed the Supreme courts ability to challenge their Govt, this is something the Tories wish to do here.....

WTF does America have to do with this? Own the homegrown nationalism and cruelty in the UK.

Well its easy to criticise when you are not doing the job. No doubt there is massive pressure to try and keep the costs of housing and feeding asylum seekers as low as possible. They aren't at the point of having their cases determined and haven't in the past contributed to the economy but they are extracting money from it and the books have to be balanced. I'm not arguing that money should not be spent on it, but I'm old enough to know that resources have to come from somewhere.

Also lets not forget that many Brexiteers were easily convinced to vote for what has since been called a collective act of self harm. Many of those voters were convinced by a poster from UKIP showing a queue of brown people waiting to enter the UK. That's how entrenched their antipathy towards migrants is. Those people are, like it or not, are voters with just as much say as anyone else. They would not be sympathetic to vast tranches of cash being spent on asylum seekers and their opinions do count. Their votes count and their votes have to be won.

I doubt Suella is currently sat at home rubbing her hands together, whilst cackling that she has snatched a bag of apples away from a migrant family today. Disagree with the policies by all means, but the hyperbole and use of words like evil just seem so childish. There will have been reasoning behind the decision made.

If I was a politician, I would like to see a very different cultural, economic and political landscape to what we currently have. However I am not a politician and could never be one, I am too thin skinned, too flawed and I would find some of decisions I would no doubt have to make deeply unpalatable. I could not dance to a specific tune to win specific votes. I'm not a people person, I could not glad hand and kiss babies. I could not and would not want to do Suella's job. So I may disagree with her, but I will acknowledge that I've never walked a mile in her shoes and she's probably a damn sight tougher than I am and has to make much tougher decisions than I do.

Internet forums are so binary, but politics is deeply nuanced. If you think you could dance between the raindrops and get to the front benches and hold down a cabinet job without an occasional dance with the devil (no matter what colour your flag is) you are naive indeed.

This is all whataboutery. Pregnant women and children. Living in hotels. £45 a week to live on. Often some horrendous stories about how they got here.

They were supposed to get £3 a week to ensure they had some nutritious food beyond pasta, rice, bread etc. Suella braverman decided they shouldn't.

I get what you're saying, there isn't endless money for everything, but even so this is despicable.

I too agree with your point about politics being nuanced and internet forums being binary. This is something I often feel when reading reactions to things on MN.
But I think, don’t we have to draw a line somewhere, know where that line is, and when it has been crossed? To me, this latest incident ( which has, after all, been ruled unlawful, so no need for nuance there) goes way beyond a politically expedient ‘dance with the devil’, and, in Braverman’s case, has been more than just ‘occasional’. Withholding (unlawfully) such tiny amounts of money for basic food is surely just wrong??

Yanbu. They talk a lot about "British Values" but seem to have no idea what they are other than "hating all foreigners".

The reference was to cocaine, not to America as such!