Would you report no MOT

[thethreemuskateers]

My ex has been driving around with an expired mot since April, according to friends he’s aware it’s expired but can’t afford to get it sorted.

He’s just returned from a golfing weekend, has gym memberships, golf and season tickets. Pays 100 maintenance a month for 2 child due to working cash in hand.

He picks up our son from school a few nights a week. I’m I being unreasonable to think I should report him?

It won't make any difference if you report to Police - they take zero interest.

Wrong

I’ve reported him, just checked and tax is due in the next few weeks so hopefully this will push him into getting the car sorted.

Ah yes, I had forgotten about ANPR cameras. I was thinking of CCTV. But surely every car that goes past an ANPR camera isn't automatically checked? I thought the data was just used if there was a reason to suspect something was wrong with a vehicle (no tax, no insurance, stolen etc). If every single vehicle was checked, surely there would be no issue at all with people driving without insurance, for example?

Which bit is wrong @Pix56?

How is the car unsafe. Is it damaged?

An entry into an electronic database is nothing to do with the safety of a vehicle.

An out of date MOT does not invalidate your insurance. Your insurance company might not pay out in the event of a claim that YOU make, but they WILL pay out to third parties.

In that case yes, especially if the brake pads haven't been replaced

Do you know if he got them replaced since then?

Nowhere in my area do they clamp for non MOT just road tax & a fine for no insurance, I assume that’s countrywide

How is the car unsafe. Is it damaged?

It had a brake pad advisory well over a year ok. If that hasn't been dealt with, it's unsafe

@onefinemess www.theaa.com/mot/advice/driving-without-an-mot

Most insurers require you to have a valid MOT and your car needs a valid MOT to be taxed.

I wouldn't, partly because I have nothing to gain from it (although I don't have kids with my ex to be fair) and I don't want any of my time going toward him.
Partly because MOTs don't pick up some major faults, they only check certain parts/functions of the car. It could pass its MOT and still have a serious fault, which has happened to me, after my freshly MOTd car decided to stall repeatedly on an A road. Thankfully the engine didn't give out before it limped the shortish distance home (although it was buggered and the car was scrapped, the joy).

No he hasn’t had them replaced

Could you not approach him before
You report him? They can impound his car and he may have no way of collecting your son if that happens. Explain the reasons behind why you want him to get an MOT, safety of you son. Of course he shouldn't need telling. I'd take that approach before reporting

Fortunately we are a way away from CCTV having this capability at the sort of volume that would be required.

And yes, the data is only used if there is something wrong with the vehicle, but to decide that, every vehicle is checked. The reason why there is still an issue with people driving without insurance etc is that the DVLA can only issue the penalty to the registered keeper. If the registered keeper has sold the vehicle, they would just receive a fine for not notifying the DVLA of the new keeper. And if they haven't sold it, they get a penalty for driving uninsured. It doesn't actually force the purchase of insurance, and sadly the scroats who don't bother with insurance aren't really worried about fines either. An alert does get put on the vehicle though and the police will impound and crush it once they find it, so over the course of time this problem will reduce. It already has massively over the last 20 years or so.

I would report him in a heartbeat.

MOTs exist for a reason. He’s driving children around in the car and you have no way of knowing whether it is safe / roadworthy.

I speak from two decades of experience in the emergency services. Don’t take the chance with the little one’s safety. It’s something he could sort out very quickly.

If you know his registration you can check online with DVLA if it has tax and MOT. You can literally type in any vehicle reg. Check before you assume.

Reporting isn't easy. Untaxed is untaxed, easy problem for them. No MOT is fine as long as it isn't been driven to places other than a garage. They'd have to see him actually driving it to do anything about it. A non-MOT car sat outside a house isn't a problem.

I think this make the point very well...

Yes it does

Report it but don't expect anything to happen.....
my next door neighbour was driving around with no tax, MoT or insurance for 8 months and nothing happened despite multiple people reporting it.

Exactly

No MOT. no kid going in the car. Without a valid MOT his insurance (assuming he has it?) will be invalid. You would have no come back in the awful event of an accident.

For those who are not snitches/don't grass GROW UP FFS!

Reugny · Today 10:44

If your MOT had expired and you had to drive your car, your car is still insured if it is roadworthy.

I'm afraid that you are dangerously mistaken:

https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot#:~:text=You%20cannot%20drive%20or%20park,from%20somewhere%20to%20be%20repaired

You cannot drive or park your vehicle on the road if the MOT has run out. You can be prosecuted if caught.
The only exceptions are to drive it:

• to or from somewhere to be repaired
• to a pre-arranged MOT test

Any insurance company would invalidate his insurance, because it's not legally allowed to be on the road.

Any insurance company would invalidate his insurance, because it's not legally allowed to be on the road.

Nope. Some insurance companies stipulate in the fine print that an MOT is required. Don’t mistake MOT status for roadworthiness.