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“Prejudiced and nasty” Nigel Farage…

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MangetoutsaysGetOutMan · 19/07/2023 17:53

… doesn’t understand irony.

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ThisTimeIts · 20/07/2023 07:16

This thread has made me now think that those who scouted that people who voted Brexit were thick, may have been not about the people who voted leave.🤔

StefanosHill · 20/07/2023 07:20

ThisTimeIts · 20/07/2023 05:05

But it still manages to find Farage guilty because his views 'do not align with our [Coutts'] values'.
Other than generalised pabulum about inclusivity and diversity plus an obsession with climate change, we are left in the dark about what these values are or what makes them so special.

Not a Farage sympathiser, I simply can't stand the woke religion and the way that the new Puritanism operates, if you break their interpretation of the four commandments (having a huge carbon footprint and excluding wrong think is ok though) DEI and sustainability = ESG score - hello!

The smug faces of the woke is a sign to behold, they are delighted with themselves that they have this religion and are it's correct thinkers, it's bizarre.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-12316921/This-new-form-McCarthyism-writes-ANDREW-NEIL-Coutts-decision-dreadful-sinister-deceitful-manner-taken-worse-Farage.html

What a shoddy and embarrassing rookie document

Coutts look worse here than with any NF banking, which no one knew about until now

ThisTimeIts · 20/07/2023 07:24

As someone on another thread pointed out, Coutts must have values aligned with Prince Andrew and Prince Harry who has a gigantic carbon footprint and made very racist comments over the years, worse than anything I heard Farage say.

Mirandathepandaisontheverandah · 20/07/2023 07:25

Notonthestairs · 19/07/2023 22:50

So Coutts haven't broken any existing legislation?

Maybe. It would be for a court to decide. Olivier vs DWP established that the Equality Act prevents discrimination on the basis of political belief. So it would depend on whether the court decides if the belief they discriminated against him for is "worthy of respect in a democratic society". Honestly could go either way. But as he was the leader of a well supported political party which embodied his views he could have a decent case.

There's a good chance Coutts broke FCA rules too.

maddening · 20/07/2023 07:26

AdamRyan · 19/07/2023 19:04

Read about the law and politically exposed people.

Banks get huge sanctions if they don't exercise due diligence on their customers. The law is there to protect society (us) from corruption, bribery and money laundering.

Certain jobs bring certain levels of scrutiny, NF has one of those jobs. What has happened to him is entirely irrelevant to a member of the general population.

I work in banking, in compliance and have specifically covered financial crime including oversight of PEPs - I have never sought closure for awkward political views - the main requirement is additional due diligence due to heightened risk of bribery and corruption - not political views.

lljkk · 20/07/2023 07:32

why does NF want a Coutts account if Coutts are shoddy, rookie, woke, partial, leaking confidential info ? Presumably NF has a bank with someone else, & has run country miles from idea of having another Coutts account.

TodayInahurry · 20/07/2023 07:37

Coutts is part of the NatWest Group that was bailed out with tax payers money for £45 Billion when it nearly went bust in the early 2000s. They still owe us some £37 Billion.

They are also closing bank accounts for less mortals because they don’t go along with the Trans lies. One was a vicar who objected to rainbow flags in his branch.

This could happen to anyone who speaks out and is wrong.

itsgettingweird · 20/07/2023 07:39

Putting aside the facts it's courts and NF. I thought that no business had to take your custom if they decided not to? And there doesn't even need to be a reason?

If they decline him an account and anyone an account that's surely their right full stop?

MandyMotherOfBrian · 20/07/2023 07:41

lljkk · 20/07/2023 07:32

why does NF want a Coutts account if Coutts are shoddy, rookie, woke, partial, leaking confidential info ? Presumably NF has a bank with someone else, & has run country miles from idea of having another Coutts account.

Why he wants an account there is irrelevant, the ‘other banks are available’ argument is less than convincing as NF says he has now been turned down by other institutions since the Coutts story broke. There is a principle here that we shapely be concerned about irregardless of how we personally feel about Nigel Farage

Kendodd · 20/07/2023 07:44

I agree with the dangerous precedent.

But, what I would really love would be if NF sued Couts (or anyone) for calling him a racist. We could have all his nasty racist comments repeated in court for the court to pass an opinion on. I'm sure all his equally nasty racist supporters would be outside court every day cheering him on.

StefanosHill · 20/07/2023 07:44

lljkk · 20/07/2023 07:32

why does NF want a Coutts account if Coutts are shoddy, rookie, woke, partial, leaking confidential info ? Presumably NF has a bank with someone else, & has run country miles from idea of having another Coutts account.

Not sure he wants to bank there now he wants to expose them

Which has worked. No one knew about their baseless presentations before

Swrigh1234 · 20/07/2023 07:46

Funny how the woke mob who usually froth hate towards the banks for being capitalist exploitative organizations are now defending the banks for being moralistic, independent bastions of ESG, free to punish people as they please.

Hypocrisy truly is a byword for woke.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 20/07/2023 07:46

itsgettingweird · 20/07/2023 07:39

Putting aside the facts it's courts and NF. I thought that no business had to take your custom if they decided not to? And there doesn't even need to be a reason?

If they decline him an account and anyone an account that's surely their right full stop?

Coutts are a bank not a baker - they are FCA regulated and there are guidelines for ‘fairness’ in how clients must be treated. Economic viability, fraud risk etc are some reasons why they may refuse a client - said client’s political or philosophical beliefs are not. Read the 40 page document. It’s quite clear what their decision is based on.

Badchild · 20/07/2023 07:47

TodayInahurry · 20/07/2023 07:37

Coutts is part of the NatWest Group that was bailed out with tax payers money for £45 Billion when it nearly went bust in the early 2000s. They still owe us some £37 Billion.

They are also closing bank accounts for less mortals because they don’t go along with the Trans lies. One was a vicar who objected to rainbow flags in his branch.

This could happen to anyone who speaks out and is wrong.

NW etc was bailed out in the late 2000's, 2008 to be more accurate.

Anyone offering a commercial service should be free to be able to choose who they offer that service too, thats part of a free society and a market economy, by doing so, they then open themselves up to the fallout from this... as Coutts & others are finding out.

To be fair, i thought Coutts description of NF was 100% accurate, i wouldn't want to be associated with a bank that had him as a customer but for others it may make them want to be and thats all good too.

Zebedee55 · 20/07/2023 07:47

I can't stand Farage but I don't think banks should be involving themselves with (legally held) political views or beliefs.

I mean, the royals bank with them - but I bet they haven't shut Andrew's accounts down.🙄

topnoddy · 20/07/2023 07:50

WaitingfortheTardis · 19/07/2023 18:53

I dont believe him. The man only knows how to lie.

Pretty much like every other politician then !

ThisTimeIts · 20/07/2023 07:52

TodayInahurry · 20/07/2023 07:37

Coutts is part of the NatWest Group that was bailed out with tax payers money for £45 Billion when it nearly went bust in the early 2000s. They still owe us some £37 Billion.

They are also closing bank accounts for less mortals because they don’t go along with the Trans lies. One was a vicar who objected to rainbow flags in his branch.

This could happen to anyone who speaks out and is wrong.

It is happening.

Claire Fox said she was ashamed, and only spoke up after Farage did.

How far back will racist comments made go, will Prince Harry types always be forgiven, who decides?

Will the Royal family be forgiven for their carbon footprint? Will all the helicopter taking celebs be forgiven for not being sustainable enough?

Will random people who bough flights and spent money abroad (remember banks are logging information) how far back will holiday carbon footprints be taken by the banks before they punish random members of the public like those who believe in biology are being punished?

Will their money be confiscated and redistributed as happened in Canada to wrong think truckers, again I don't agree with. Who decides who gets the money instead of carbon footprint rich people?

ThisTimeIts · 20/07/2023 07:54

Swrigh1234 · 20/07/2023 07:46

Funny how the woke mob who usually froth hate towards the banks for being capitalist exploitative organizations are now defending the banks for being moralistic, independent bastions of ESG, free to punish people as they please.

Hypocrisy truly is a byword for woke.

They are useful idiots, the banks will turn on them harder.

Watch hypernormalisation. The banks are using and playing them after occupy wall street.

lljkk · 20/07/2023 07:55

as NF says

I acknowledge that I have issues believing anything NF says.

he has now been turned down by other institutions

Do we have independent evidence that NF was turned down for similar reasons as to why Coutts closed NF's account? (not that we have clarity as to why Coutts closed the account, anyway)

SophiaElise · 20/07/2023 07:59

Repercussions for racism? Who knew!

Well done Coutts.

loislovesstewie · 20/07/2023 08:05

I would be interested to see a full list of their customers, just to see who they feel do have values that uphold the ethos of Coutts. I know it won't happen, but I think it would make interesting reading .

ThisTimeIts · 20/07/2023 08:11

Nigel Farage is patently not everyone’s cup of tea. Many – invariably the liberal elite – despise his strident opinions, on everything from Brexit through illegal immigration to trans ideology.
Yet nothing the former Ukip leader has ever said or done has been illegal or immoral. Indeed, his views are shared by a huge number of ordinary British voters.

Most voters agree with him on Brexit and trans ideology, his views on these matters are mainstream. The woke are a small loud empty vessel minority of likely not very bright, likely not well, likely unpopular, unliked by the majority - hypocrites like Prince Harry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12317635/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-Nigel-Farage-not-everyones-cup-tea-banks-attack-free-speech-end-now.html

DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Banks' attack on free speech must end now

DAILY MAIL COMMMENT: It is sinister that Coutts has closed Mr Farage's bank accounts over his political beliefs. People should not be afraid to speak their minds for fear of being financially ostracised

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12317635/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-Nigel-Farage-not-everyones-cup-tea-banks-attack-free-speech-end-now.html

BillaBongGirl · 20/07/2023 08:15

ThisTimeIts · 20/07/2023 07:52

It is happening.

Claire Fox said she was ashamed, and only spoke up after Farage did.

How far back will racist comments made go, will Prince Harry types always be forgiven, who decides?

Will the Royal family be forgiven for their carbon footprint? Will all the helicopter taking celebs be forgiven for not being sustainable enough?

Will random people who bough flights and spent money abroad (remember banks are logging information) how far back will holiday carbon footprints be taken by the banks before they punish random members of the public like those who believe in biology are being punished?

Will their money be confiscated and redistributed as happened in Canada to wrong think truckers, again I don't agree with. Who decides who gets the money instead of carbon footprint rich people?

What a froth of scaremongering nonsense.
Nigel Farage has pulled the wool over your eyes once again.

SwedishEdith · 20/07/2023 08:16

Worth watching Newsnight from last night where he had it calmly explained to him, by a banking expert who had read the paper in full, why Coutts may have let him go. He'd paid off his mortgage in full.

Newsnight, Farage Banking Row – Wider Questions?: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001nxw7 via @bbciplayer

Newsnight - Farage Banking Row – Wider Questions?

More details emerge about why the private bank Coutts cancelled Nigel Farage's account.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001nxw7

ThisTimeIts · 20/07/2023 08:23

These people don't seem very bright, they are full of assumptions, when you stated that you are not s fan of and don't support people? I think they are not the brightest, most well as they are protecting in their accusations like Prince Harry demonstrates.🙄

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