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“Prejudiced and nasty” Nigel Farage…

635 replies

MangetoutsaysGetOutMan · 19/07/2023 17:53

… doesn’t understand irony.

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WrigglyDonCat · 20/07/2023 22:10

Barbadossunset · 20/07/2023 21:58

This screw up by them, no matter that i think they have the right to decide who they have as a customer, is going to be costly for them.

Badchild would you say that if say Greta Thunberg had had her bank account closed on the grounds the bank didn’t approve of her views?

Or a much less of a controversial figure for the vast majority of people, let's say it was J K Rowling who had her accounts closed for certain of her views...

I'm guessing most of the Coutts apologists on here would probably not approve of that, but Nasty Nige is fair game.

AgathaSpencerGregson · 20/07/2023 22:10

Qbish · 20/07/2023 19:56

Andrew Neil tweeting, once again - it's going to get messy

Facebook group of close to 10,000 former customers who say their NatWest accounts were closed down are sharing templates and instructions on how to lodge Subject Access Requests with the bank demanding any dossiers on them. As I wrote this morning, Nat West/Coutts now entering a world of pain

Goodness. If there is substance to this they have really stuffed up.
this will be fun to watch.

lljkk · 20/07/2023 22:13

If he wasn’t their sort then why did they allow him the account in the first place?

Coz it's never too late to fix a mistake?

aRen't these the sorts of banks that look at you askance from far end of a very long nose before allowing your money to rest on their ledgers? They exude snooty standards, right?

Since they are snooty AF, will any other Snooty bank let Farage bank with them, instead? Is Farage literally making it impossible for himself to get an account with any of the other snooty banks, too?

maddening · 20/07/2023 22:14

Badchild · 20/07/2023 07:47

NW etc was bailed out in the late 2000's, 2008 to be more accurate.

Anyone offering a commercial service should be free to be able to choose who they offer that service too, thats part of a free society and a market economy, by doing so, they then open themselves up to the fallout from this... as Coutts & others are finding out.

To be fair, i thought Coutts description of NF was 100% accurate, i wouldn't want to be associated with a bank that had him as a customer but for others it may make them want to be and thats all good too.

So the Christian couple who refused to allow a gay couple to stay at their bnb were right and the court the was wrong to find they had discriminated?

Qbish · 20/07/2023 22:17

Here's the letter:

“Prejudiced and nasty” Nigel Farage…
Qbish · 20/07/2023 22:19

She says "sector wide change is required". Interesting. At the moment the banks hold all the power, because there is no legal requirement for them to have to explain to a customer why they have closed their account.

AgathaSpencerGregson · 20/07/2023 22:22

Qbish · 20/07/2023 22:17

Here's the letter:

I think that’s a good letter. They clearly got this wrong and she admits it. Some muppets have decided that PEP DD is an excuse for policing whether their clients are likely to upset guardian readers and she recognises that’s not on. Not mealy mouthed as these “apologies” so often are.

Mirandathepandaisontheverandah · 20/07/2023 22:22

Qbish · 20/07/2023 22:19

She says "sector wide change is required". Interesting. At the moment the banks hold all the power, because there is no legal requirement for them to have to explain to a customer why they have closed their account.

It's a very strange line in the apology. The implication seems to be that because they can't act in a reasonable and fair manner unless they are specifically legally compelled to.

AgathaSpencerGregson · 20/07/2023 22:23

Mirandathepandaisontheverandah · 20/07/2023 22:22

It's a very strange line in the apology. The implication seems to be that because they can't act in a reasonable and fair manner unless they are specifically legally compelled to.

Given she acknowledges that a review of their own processes is needed, I don’t think that’s what she’s saying.

ClareBlue · 20/07/2023 22:24

There have been numerous times when the banking system has been shown to be corrupt and disfunctionál and has only survived because public money has bailled them out, for them to do it all again, and again and screw the very people who kept them afloat. Fuelled by greed and an elevated sense of importance. For any part of the banking system to pass moral judgement on anything, never mind a customer, is aborhent. But they have no concept of irony or shame.
It's wrong, but that won't stop them. It never has before.

Barbadossunset · 20/07/2023 22:27

Since they are snooty AF, will any other Snooty bank let Farage bank with them, instead? Is Farage literally making it impossible for himself to get an account with any of the other snooty banks, too?

Hmmm…..I don’t know the answer to that. Which snooty banks did you have in mind?

Mirandathepandaisontheverandah · 20/07/2023 22:29

AgathaSpencerGregson · 20/07/2023 22:23

Given she acknowledges that a review of their own processes is needed, I don’t think that’s what she’s saying.

There's certainly scope for interpretation and the letter is appallingly drafted but my own reading is that the review of internal processes is an acknowledgement of the fact that they aren't compliant with the legal duties set out in paragraph two rather than suggesting they aren't merely "good enough".

StefanosHill · 20/07/2023 22:29

Qbish · 20/07/2023 22:17

Here's the letter:

So is the letter still just saying you get a NatWest account not a Coutts one?

Even though they’ve admitted they’re in the wrong

Why is that good news, that wasn’t wanted anyway

AgathaSpencerGregson · 20/07/2023 22:35

Mirandathepandaisontheverandah · 20/07/2023 22:29

There's certainly scope for interpretation and the letter is appallingly drafted but my own reading is that the review of internal processes is an acknowledgement of the fact that they aren't compliant with the legal duties set out in paragraph two rather than suggesting they aren't merely "good enough".

Yes I think that’s right. As far as I can tell they seem to be confusing review of financial crime risk with a review of whether the client’s opinions would please an Islington dinner party. That’s not a problem with the law, it’s a problem with fuckwits applying it.

Kendodd · 20/07/2023 22:45

Led By Donkeys were quick.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=mfyiSk8Rjc8

CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 20/07/2023 22:56

StefanosHill · 20/07/2023 22:29

So is the letter still just saying you get a NatWest account not a Coutts one?

Even though they’ve admitted they’re in the wrong

Why is that good news, that wasn’t wanted anyway

Yes - the account isn’t being reinstated…
the apology is limited to the comments about NF and the lack of transparency.

Qbish · 20/07/2023 23:00

Kendodd · 20/07/2023 22:45

Led By Donkeys were quick.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=mfyiSk8Rjc8

Not really sure what their point is there. As I said earlier, a lot of cognitive dissonance is going on.

Bankers = eeeevil!
Ohbutwait, bankers have been mean to a person we don't like - bankers = wonderful!
And also, the law that protects the person we don't like is from the EU, so the law protecting the person we don't like = wonderful!

It's hilarious.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 20/07/2023 23:55

loislovesstewie · 20/07/2023 14:06

I'm wodering if I might be de-banked for donating to the Donkey Sanctuary or Four Paws. I know I'm being facetious, but it does seem very 1984, doesn't it?

1984?
Make Orwell Fiction Again…

AnSolas · 21/07/2023 01:37

BillaBongGirl · 20/07/2023 15:37

I thought that was a joke as a morality department does not exist.

Hint: NF passed the banking client economic test and senior staff said "Yes BUT...we have this set of moral values....

AnSolas · 21/07/2023 01:37

BillaBongGirl · 20/07/2023 15:41

How is these questions even remotely relevant?

You’re whinging about one rich man feeling hard done by because he can’t have a bank account with an elite bank that requires you to be a multimillionaire and has to get a regular commoner bank account with Nat West while literally dismissing the dire straits of tens of thousands of legal U.K. residents who not only cannot get any bank account but cannot access healthcare, rent and home or get/keep their jobs due to Home Office incompetence.

That’s white privilege in action.

Oh dear!
A personal attack rather than answers

How is these questions even remotely relevant?

You posted about the real tragedy, banking staff complying with the law and goverment employees and government policy.

I asked some questions about what you posted.
You have a little melt down.

You’re whinging about one rich man feeling hard done by because he can’t have a bank account with an elite bank that requires you to be a multimillionaire and has to get a regular commoner bank account with Nat West while literally dismissing the dire straits of tens of thousands of legal U.K. residents who not only cannot get any bank account but cannot access healthcare, rent and home or get/keep their jobs due to Home Office incompetence.

Will you be providing some direct quotes to support your little rant?

That’s white privilege in action.
Oops ... Your little racist race baiting rant has a little racist problem

Sweetie, do catch up, he already had a bank account with Nat West.

Coyoacan · 21/07/2023 01:47

*How is these questions even remotely relevant?

You’re whinging about one rich man feeling hard done by because he can’t have a bank account with an elite bank that requires you to be a multimillionaire and has to get a regular commoner bank account with Nat West while literally dismissing the dire straits of tens of thousands of legal U.K. residents who not only cannot get any bank account but cannot access healthcare, rent and home or get/keep their jobs due to Home Office incompetence.*

That’s white privilege in action.

@BillaBongGirl

You are off in another world. AnSolas, like most of the rest of us are using Farage as an example of what can happen when banks have too much power. At no point did AnSolas or anyone else express indifference to the fate of immigrants. That is all in your head. And you don't even know who is black, brown or white here.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 21/07/2023 01:52

Qbish · 20/07/2023 22:17

Here's the letter:

What absolutely appalling English!

If the rest of her work is of a similar standard, I’m not surprised that they made the ridiculous decision to ‘exit’ Nigel Farage and they totally deserve the shit storm that follows.

AnSolas · 21/07/2023 01:57

loislovesstewie · 20/07/2023 15:56

No, it's dangerous because a bank can decide that if any customer has an opinion that an individual/team working at the bank don't like then the account can be closed. The views held could be totally normal, lawful views , but if some person at a bank doesn't like them, then you are out.
Most people want a bank to perform a specific function, namely to look after money, to offer financial advice as required and pay bills, direct debits etc as instructed. I don't need or want a moral lecture, I don't want to have to explain my opinions on any topic when I contact them. I wouldn't expect my bank to ask me' Well Lois, what do you think about the situation in Ukraine, or the Middle East?'. It's not their job to police my thoughts or opinions and once we go down road, where will it stop? What about people on here who give their opinions on men in women's sports etc, is that next?

Most people want a bank to perform a specific function, namely to look after money,

Guess who is second last in line, just above shareholders, to be repaid money in the event of a bank crashing?

Customers with cash in the bank.

When a person opens up any type of "retail" bank account they are making an investment decision.
the bank use the money to prove that they should be allowed to borrow money from other professional investors and use both cashflows to gamble in the various "Markets"
The retail customer becomes a unsecured lender

Which section of the application has the mandatory warning that in the event of a bank crash your bank account being at risk of being used to pay off professional investors because they are a secured lender?

And the staff think they should also spend customer money to set up a quango court

QueenBitch666 · 21/07/2023 02:07

I see they've not ditched the royal nonce...

AnSolas · 21/07/2023 02:07

GasPanic · 20/07/2023 18:15

Yeah made me laugh too.

Bankers are given privileged access to the money supply. They can literally make money off that privilege. Not off their own ideas or hard work, but off the fact they are given a banking licence.

So why does the government give them licences ? Because it needs organisations to handle the distribution and channeling of money through society.

IMO when bankers who have that power, are given that privilege start engaging in politics as well, it's time to start asking some serious questions.

So why does the government give them licences ? Because it needs organisations to handle the distribution and channeling of money through society.

This ^ is why governments the poorest tax payer who would not be given a loan will be forced to bail out the next bank that is "Too Big To Fail" when the bankers go for the big bonus gamble

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