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Is this classed as a ‘high earner’?

512 replies

Earnerlesr · 17/07/2023 22:34

65k.

And if it’s not, what figure starts to be classed as a high earner?

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Indigotree · 17/07/2023 23:59

Very high indeed (lifelong Londoner and no one here I know earns that much). Look on the IFS earnings scale calculator and you'll see anyone earning that much is very high up indeed

TuesdayWonder · 17/07/2023 23:59

West of Scotland here and that would be a very high earner here! Around £45k here would be seen as really really good!

Copasetic · 18/07/2023 00:02

I'd class £100k + as high

Fanlover1122 · 18/07/2023 00:03

nettypie · 17/07/2023 23:28

Actually, loads of people in SW1X are on 100K+.

Yes....100k PLUS - no way you can afford to live round here on 100 k and live comfortably.

UsingChangeofName · 18/07/2023 00:05

Of course it is.
Anyone saying not is either on a wind up, or lives in such a privileged bubble that they have absolutely no concept of how the overwhelming majority of people live.

If you want to compare by tax - then yes, it is in the higher tax bracket, which ought to be a big clue.
If you want to look at the stats for what % of people earn £65K or more, from memory it is only around 10% of people.
Either way, of course £65K is a high income compared with the population as a whole.

If you wanted to narrow it down to ask if it is a high income for Magic circle lawyers, or for senior Medical consultants or for London City Bankers, then potentially not, but if you are talking about most of us, then of course it is.

Belizenavidad · 18/07/2023 00:05

cosmosy · 17/07/2023 23:56

I'm not sure what your point is, really.

Someone said 100K in London doesn't get you far.

The post you quoted then replied saying "actually, it gets you a golden postcode in a nice area". You then decided to repeat that exact point – that SW1 is an expensive area – with eyerolls aplenty.

Because it’s not a realistic postcode….. 100k can get you a nice house in London for sure I’m not arguing that, but not in that area, hence why I said i would expect people living in that area would be earning more. I agree with you 100k is a high salary!

YeaGads · 18/07/2023 00:06

Top 10% of earners 63k plus.
Top 5% of earners 80k plus
Top 1% of earners 160k plus
Top 0.5% of earners 263k plus
Top 0.1% of earners 650k

Taken from This is money and the chart is a DWP one.

Regardless of outgoings which is irrelevant for the purposes of knowing what a high income is, this is all about income distribution. My household is in top 10% bracket, that’s it no debate on if I’m well off or if I’m worried because I have huge outgoings. It is where my household is in the grand scheme of things. Almost all threads about money become too personal. There is your genuine answer op. It just depends if you think it’s top 1%, 5%, 10%.

Is this classed as a ‘high earner’?
Fanlover1122 · 18/07/2023 00:07

Belizenavidad · 17/07/2023 23:40

Well yes, that’s why they live there…. They can afford it. It’s Belgravia 🙄🙄Most people in London, there are other places like Lewisham, Hackney or Hounslow where a lot of people earn less that 35k A customer service job in central pays about 24k typically not including travel.

No way can you afford to live on Belgravia on 100 k.....only if accommodation is free. We have household income of just over 200 k in SW1X.....but a tiny mortgage. Could not afford to rent/ buy now.

Belizenavidad · 18/07/2023 00:10

Belizenavidad · 18/07/2023 00:05

Because it’s not a realistic postcode….. 100k can get you a nice house in London for sure I’m not arguing that, but not in that area, hence why I said i would expect people living in that area would be earning more. I agree with you 100k is a high salary!

Tired Over It GIF by VH1

Apologies I think I got her post mixed up with who she was replying to! I thought she meant lots of people earn 100k plus then quoted the Belgravia postcode - so thats why i said of course they do its Belgravia - my bad! Wanted to highlight not all people in London earn a high wage - who ever said they do

Nowearenotmakingitup · 18/07/2023 00:10

@Totaly do you mind me asking how old you are and what you do with the money? I’m just wondering whether you’re in your 30’s and the goal is to pay off your mortgage or retire early?

For the record I don’t think £65k very high at all. It would be for me personally, but my exH and DH earn(ed) a great deal more than that and they shared the benefits of earning well. So my view is now skewed. I still don’t waste money though. Been skint too many times to waste it. I do try to “share” in my own way, with others - am not tight.

Fanlover1122 · 18/07/2023 00:11

Belizenavidad · 17/07/2023 23:52

I didn’t say it didn’t??? But you’d expect people living in Belgravia to earn over 100k. My point is that a lot of people living in London earn less than 35k

You can only afford to live in Belgravia on 100 k if you are not paying accommodation costs. Family owned or bought 30/40 plus years ago.

YeaGads · 18/07/2023 00:11

Approx 32 million pay income tax
Approx 6.5 million pay higher rate income tax.

feenac · 18/07/2023 00:12

wehavelostsightofwhatanormalhoodiesizeis · 17/07/2023 23:17

Too much to qualify for any help, not enough not to care.

It's easy to laugh at the "high earners, I am super rich me, I earn a lot less" when you conveniently forget all the state handouts you are getting.

And what handouts do you think I'm getting as a childless 40 year old on 28k?

BluNomad · 18/07/2023 00:13

YeaGads · 18/07/2023 00:11

Approx 32 million pay income tax
Approx 6.5 million pay higher rate income tax.

About 5 million claim benefits & have never paid bugger all…

kiwivick87 · 18/07/2023 00:14

cariadlet · 17/07/2023 23:43

I earn about 40k.

That's above the National average wage and I feel that I'm well off.

65k puts you into the higher tax bracket so I would consider someone with that salary to be a high earner.

I live in the South East but outside London.

Your reply is normal…unfortunately MN will have the extremes replying!

Belizenavidad · 18/07/2023 00:14

Fanlover1122 · 18/07/2023 00:11

You can only afford to live in Belgravia on 100 k if you are not paying accommodation costs. Family owned or bought 30/40 plus years ago.

That’s why I said over, and I agree they probably earn way more! (And good for them if they do!)

Fanlover1122 · 18/07/2023 00:15

Belizenavidad · 18/07/2023 00:10

Apologies I think I got her post mixed up with who she was replying to! I thought she meant lots of people earn 100k plus then quoted the Belgravia postcode - so thats why i said of course they do its Belgravia - my bad! Wanted to highlight not all people in London earn a high wage - who ever said they do

yip, it’s not a realistic postcode. Not possible to live on 100 k in Belgravia, while we don’t struggle on a combined income of just over 200 k we are the poorest people we know 🤦🏼‍♀️

Tryingtokeepgoing · 18/07/2023 00:15

fuchiaknickers · 17/07/2023 23:43

I grant you that there will be roles I am bot familiar with, but I still doubt there are very many of them.
Most of those jobs you listed come in at under 100K average on glassdoors, no doubt they would get the upper end salary of 100k+ in London and the lower end salary in areas such as mine.

In the private sector many SMEs will have multiple people on 6 figure salaries, and most large towns in the country will have a multiple SMEs. Somerset is the most rural county in England, defined by population density, but it still has almost 60,000 SMEs. Even if only 5% have one person earning a 6 figure salary, that’s 3,000 people in the most rural county in England on £100k plus. And there’s almost a million people in the country who say they earn more than £100k, and 48 counties, so that sounds about right to me.

Mopbucketmoo · 18/07/2023 00:18
Help Me Im Poor Kristen Wiig GIF

That's like millionaire status compared to my 9k a year 🤣

waterst · 18/07/2023 00:19

Qbish · 17/07/2023 22:35

No. That is not a high earner.

I would say - £300,000 plus? In the South.

Oh come on, 300K is hardly high earnings. If you live in London and have more than one child in private education and a nanny, there would barely be enough left for the annual skiing trip. I think anything less than 750K is pretty average and equates to the squeezed middle tbh

Mademetoxic · 18/07/2023 00:26

Witsend101 · 17/07/2023 23:36

Only on mumsnet is 65,000 not a high earner. I saw a thread earlier where someone was earning 28,000 and was basically called a slacker and advised to get a better paying job to pay their way ! The mind boggles.

Bloody hell. Which thread was this??

This place is seriously bonkers!

noapologies · 18/07/2023 00:27

I'd say a high earner in Londoner is someone earning £125k+.

I'm not sure what the equivalent would be elsewhere, but I suspect significantly less.

Higher earner is relative to the localised general cost of living.

Deathbyfluffy · 18/07/2023 00:30

oreo2020 · 17/07/2023 22:46

The government takes away child benefit once you start earning over 50k so for the government purposes, 50k is a high earner. You can tell I am unhappy - 50k is not that much especially in London and I have to repay my child benefit because this is what they define high earner. Not fair!!!

It is really - child benefit is for those who truly need it.
It’s not fair to expect the taxpayer to subsidise you because you choose to live in an expensive area.

Thatladdo · 18/07/2023 00:43

Deathbyfluffy · 18/07/2023 00:30

It is really - child benefit is for those who truly need it.
It’s not fair to expect the taxpayer to subsidise you because you choose to live in an expensive area.

Child benefit should be stopped and all children given free school dinners and breakfast club also.
All kids would see the benfit of it then

Hardtime · 18/07/2023 01:12

Thatladdo · 18/07/2023 00:43

Child benefit should be stopped and all children given free school dinners and breakfast club also.
All kids would see the benfit of it then

Withholding cash elements of benefits and pensions and giving credits/free provision of utilities, childcare, school meals etc would greatly help those in poverty or who are being financially abused.
If only there was a political party set up exclusively to represent wage slaves, no idea what they might call it - might even be electable. Still we can dream.