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Is this classed as a ‘high earner’?

512 replies

Earnerlesr · 17/07/2023 22:34

65k.

And if it’s not, what figure starts to be classed as a high earner?

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Saoirse82 · 17/07/2023 23:38

Qbish · 17/07/2023 22:37

Why the laugh face? £100,000 in London doesn't get you far, is certainly not a high earner. Same in the home counties.

Give over £100,000 doesn't get you far? I suppose you need to hit the food banks on that gawd awful wage 🙄

Swrigh1234 · 17/07/2023 23:39

Why do people find it so hard to believe that high earners exist. Not £60k. Those on 6 figures or better. Why is that so unfathomable.

Where do you all live? Do you not have high schools in your town, doctors surgeries, hospitals, large supermarkets, warehouses, other private businesses. How much do you think people running these businesses and services earn? A bag of sweets and a few buttons?

SamanthaCaine · 17/07/2023 23:40

Come on OP. This is MN, where high earners abound. £65k is chump change dear.

wehavelostsightofwhatanormalhoodiesizeis · 17/07/2023 23:40

Silentmama2 · 17/07/2023 23:34

I think that is one of the problems in the UK - people who are high earners do not view themselves as high earners.

65K - is high earner - the idea that to be 'well off' you need over 120K as a joint income - is ridiculous.

It's not ridiculous, define "well off".

When people compare how much money they are actually left with, once you have paid tax/ receive benefits and all sorts of help, it's surprising how little a so-called high earner has when you look at the bottom of the ladder.

It's not outrageous to think that if you are that "well off", you could afford a home and a couple of holidays a year. It's not that simple.

Belizenavidad · 17/07/2023 23:40

nettypie · 17/07/2023 23:28

Actually, loads of people in SW1X are on 100K+.

Well yes, that’s why they live there…. They can afford it. It’s Belgravia 🙄🙄Most people in London, there are other places like Lewisham, Hackney or Hounslow where a lot of people earn less that 35k A customer service job in central pays about 24k typically not including travel.

wehavelostsightofwhatanormalhoodiesizeis · 17/07/2023 23:42

Swrigh1234 · 17/07/2023 23:39

Why do people find it so hard to believe that high earners exist. Not £60k. Those on 6 figures or better. Why is that so unfathomable.

Where do you all live? Do you not have high schools in your town, doctors surgeries, hospitals, large supermarkets, warehouses, other private businesses. How much do you think people running these businesses and services earn? A bag of sweets and a few buttons?

just look at the price of bigger properties anywhere in the country. Apparently only someone who is given "family money" can afford them. Even if if was true, at some point, someone has earned that "family money" 🙄

No, everyone is working full time and earning less than £30k a year or they are fibbing.

cariadlet · 17/07/2023 23:43

I earn about 40k.

That's above the National average wage and I feel that I'm well off.

65k puts you into the higher tax bracket so I would consider someone with that salary to be a high earner.

I live in the South East but outside London.

Fizbosshoes · 17/07/2023 23:43

I'm pretty sure IRL earning 100k puts you in the top 7% of earners....but on MN its barely enough to get by

fuchiaknickers · 17/07/2023 23:43

User6424678852 · 17/07/2023 23:27

All those you have listed are public sector, which typically doesn’t pay as well as private sector. In your rural county you could easily have … a senior automotive engineer, a marketing director, a TV producer, a program manager, a cybersecurity consultant, a senior quality manager, a principal data scientist, a solution architect (just as a few examples)… all of whom would be on £100k plus.

I grant you that there will be roles I am bot familiar with, but I still doubt there are very many of them.
Most of those jobs you listed come in at under 100K average on glassdoors, no doubt they would get the upper end salary of 100k+ in London and the lower end salary in areas such as mine.

BluNomad · 17/07/2023 23:43

No way! How can anyone survive on that wage? The government might say it is but it really isn’t

Swrigh1234 · 17/07/2023 23:44

These threads always show how people’s expectations are so low about what high earnings mean. Low wage culture is so entrenched in this country now, that anyone earning enough to not qualify for benefits is now classed as a high earner. No wonder that productivity and the economy are shot to pieces.

PurpleWisteria1 · 17/07/2023 23:45

Husband earns 99,500 and I do not really consider him a ‘high earner’ I think his job pays well but he is only middle management - so many others in his job earning far more doing not a lot more than him it seems!
We are feeling the pinch (have 3 young kids and live in a fairly expensive area, commute into London is £££). Having to be far more careful with money now.

Ohhhhhhhhh · 17/07/2023 23:48

Oh goody, another salary competition thread.

Statistically, yes it's pretty high. On mumsnet it's peanuts.

cosmosy · 17/07/2023 23:48

Belizenavidad · 17/07/2023 23:40

Well yes, that’s why they live there…. They can afford it. It’s Belgravia 🙄🙄Most people in London, there are other places like Lewisham, Hackney or Hounslow where a lot of people earn less that 35k A customer service job in central pays about 24k typically not including travel.

The point is that 100k+ does get you far – even to the point of SW1X – in London. Many might still be paying off their mortgages, and aren't quite in Arab heir league (there are loads of those in SW1X too...), but it's silly to say 6figs doesn't get you far in London.

Switcher · 17/07/2023 23:51

No idea. Whole country is weird, a family earning 65k would be barely able to get a mortgage in the south and yet it counts as a high salary.

Thatladdo · 17/07/2023 23:52

I would say "High earner" was in the top band of income tax.
BUT it comparative, In London that would prbably get you by and not much more, in the more rural north you would be smoking big cigars 😆

Totaly · 17/07/2023 23:52

Those high earners rarely flash the cash so you won’t know who they are.

DH earns well and I shop on eBay, bargains in Tesco and shop round for quotes etc - we live in an average house similar to lower earring friends.

Belizenavidad · 17/07/2023 23:52

cosmosy · 17/07/2023 23:48

The point is that 100k+ does get you far – even to the point of SW1X – in London. Many might still be paying off their mortgages, and aren't quite in Arab heir league (there are loads of those in SW1X too...), but it's silly to say 6figs doesn't get you far in London.

I didn’t say it didn’t??? But you’d expect people living in Belgravia to earn over 100k. My point is that a lot of people living in London earn less than 35k

BluNomad · 17/07/2023 23:53

Switcher · 17/07/2023 23:51

No idea. Whole country is weird, a family earning 65k would be barely able to get a mortgage in the south and yet it counts as a high salary.

Definitely, we live in SE & 65k would get you a one bed flat if you’re lucky. Wish people would understand that

User6424678852 · 17/07/2023 23:54

fuchiaknickers · 17/07/2023 23:43

I grant you that there will be roles I am bot familiar with, but I still doubt there are very many of them.
Most of those jobs you listed come in at under 100K average on glassdoors, no doubt they would get the upper end salary of 100k+ in London and the lower end salary in areas such as mine.

Pretty much all of those jobs can be done remotely or with travel (rather than commuting), so would not be location dependent.

The list is from Monster. I just skimmed the ads that were £100k plus where I knew someone with that job.

Saoirse82 · 17/07/2023 23:55

BluNomad · 17/07/2023 23:43

No way! How can anyone survive on that wage? The government might say it is but it really isn’t

I hope you're being sarcastic.

bowzen · 17/07/2023 23:56

Yes, in my mind over 50k.

cosmosy · 17/07/2023 23:56

Belizenavidad · 17/07/2023 23:52

I didn’t say it didn’t??? But you’d expect people living in Belgravia to earn over 100k. My point is that a lot of people living in London earn less than 35k

I'm not sure what your point is, really.

Someone said 100K in London doesn't get you far.

The post you quoted then replied saying "actually, it gets you a golden postcode in a nice area". You then decided to repeat that exact point – that SW1 is an expensive area – with eyerolls aplenty.

BluNomad · 17/07/2023 23:57

Saoirse82 · 17/07/2023 23:55

I hope you're being sarcastic.

Not at all, I live in SE & that wage would not touch the sides.