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Would you park like this?

167 replies

Wertie · 15/07/2023 18:36

Second time I’ve had a disagreement at my local station. The spaces are narrow and the carpark is very very popular. Gold dust spaces, but Tbf there is a carpark 4 min walk away that’s bigger. The station one is pokey car park not really suitable for many modern cars.

On a number of occasions I’ve found very large 4x4 cars right up to the white lines. I have an old low car, thin doors. I’m slim. I can park between two of them and get out without touching their car with my doors. It’s a squeeze, but no contact at all.

Im guessing their thick doors and higher doors make this difficult, particularly if they aren’t petite. As it’s not a disabled space I’m restricting (there are wide separate spaces the other side for disabled drivers) I just park if I can park, and don’t concern myself with other cars. If I can fit, I’m in my own space I see it as fair play.

Twice I’ve come back to moody car owners of the huge cars.

My view is if their car is huge/ they struggle to get in then they should use the half empty nearby car park as it has wider spaces and you can park at the back without neighbours. I don’t see why I should walk it, if I have no needs for extra space.

Ive just had a really screamy outraged woman shouting I should consider the space taken if I’m blocking access.

I’m maybe an arsehole, as I laughed it off. But do others agree? Do this?

OP posts:
EmeraldFox · 16/07/2023 19:41

This will only work if everyone has the same sized car and every one parks facing the same way. A wide car is going to fill the space as both sides are already on both lines.
It would work if everyone was parked the same way and on the line on their passenger side. A wide car would just have the parking space minus the width of their own car to get out, but they chose the car!

okiedokie1 · 16/07/2023 19:41

grass321 · 16/07/2023 14:49

But I think you do care about the size of the car if you're saying it's our fault for driving a wider car?

Would I be pissed off if you parked second and I couldn't get into my car? Yes, I would (I'm also pretty slim and able to squeeze through gaps where possible).

As I've said, I'd usually be in an emptier part of the car park for that reason. But if that's not possible, I'd hope not to be blocked in by another driver.

When I'm in a smaller car, I extend the same courtesy to larger cars if they're already parked. If they couldn't physically get into their car, I'd park elsewhere.

But surely you can see that in busy narrow Soave car parks you are demanding that you have two spaces then as anything parked next to you will jam you up. If there is another CP nearby that is less busy and has rider spaces then it's on you. You can't go around demanding 2 spaces just because you can't shimmy into your car like the OP can

boboshmobo · 16/07/2023 19:41

Why don't they just climb in the back and climb over .
Disability aside I'd hate to be so restricted by weight and fitness that this isn't possible .

I work in a retail park and there was a similar hoo haa recently . I went out and climbed through the car for them . I couldn't understand why they couldn't do it themselves tbh . They didn't seem to consider the other doors and thought I was very clever 🙄..

GoodChat · 16/07/2023 19:43

EmeraldFox · 16/07/2023 19:41

This will only work if everyone has the same sized car and every one parks facing the same way. A wide car is going to fill the space as both sides are already on both lines.
It would work if everyone was parked the same way and on the line on their passenger side. A wide car would just have the parking space minus the width of their own car to get out, but they chose the car!

How does that work if you actually have passengers?

okiedokie1 · 16/07/2023 19:43

@Wertie is frothing a misogynistic term? I don't think it is

EmeraldFox · 16/07/2023 19:46

GoodChat · 16/07/2023 19:40

@EmeraldFox that's not the same as tight spaces in a station car park.

Most supermarkets have decently sized spaces (and trolleys with brakes)

Not enough space to risk squeezing a trolley through, and every trolley I've used does move on it's own enough that I wouldn't want to leave it.

okiedokie1 · 16/07/2023 19:47

@EmeraldFox There is a driver side if everyone drives into the spot

But as some people drive forward into a space and some reverse into it so it wouldn't work .

DownNative · 16/07/2023 19:47

EmeraldFox · 16/07/2023 19:30

The trouble with the middle of the space is that if I am dead in the middle of mine but the gas guzzler on my driver side is closer to the line than me, I have less than my fair share of space to get out. If we were all parked on the passenger side line (driving into the spot) then I'd always have the same amount of space to get out (in a standard sized space).

Correct!

This image of two SUVs parked on the left hand line shows how much space each vehicle will have equally.

But good luck getting enough people to do the same thing! As said before, car manufacturers do this with brand new off the line vehicles.

Indeed, some car parks have bays too small to make any real difference, so that's another problem. Perhaps Bay sizes should be standardised?

Would you park like this?
EmeraldFox · 16/07/2023 19:48

GoodChat · 16/07/2023 19:43

How does that work if you actually have passengers?

You have the space left by the car on your passenger side, if that is too tight you move out of the spot. Anyone in the back can enter through the driver side.

DownNative · 16/07/2023 19:51

EmeraldFox · 16/07/2023 19:48

You have the space left by the car on your passenger side, if that is too tight you move out of the spot. Anyone in the back can enter through the driver side.

Correct. Image above shows ample space for passengers on the other side.

okiedokie1 · 16/07/2023 19:56

boboshmobo · 16/07/2023 19:41

Why don't they just climb in the back and climb over .
Disability aside I'd hate to be so restricted by weight and fitness that this isn't possible .

I work in a retail park and there was a similar hoo haa recently . I went out and climbed through the car for them . I couldn't understand why they couldn't do it themselves tbh . They didn't seem to consider the other doors and thought I was very clever 🙄..

I'm not sure many 75 year olds could climb like that regardless of how healthy they are

Baldieheid · 16/07/2023 20:00

Parking bays are just too small now that so many family type cars are so big. They're too big, too high, too hard to see past....

I drive a small car, a Polo, and I dream of having a "small cars only" section in car parks so I am no longer forced to pull out completely blind from between two massive vehicle arses. I'm sick of it.

Plymsoul · 16/07/2023 20:01

grass321 · 16/07/2023 12:30

Yes, I’m not an arsehole. If there’s a few space that’s wider I’m going to use it. I don’t want to risk rain and getting soaked as I shimmy in!

Fair enough. I also think it's basic courtesy not to choose a space where the other cars parked can't open their doors.

Good news is that my stupidly-wide car is in the garage for the fifth time this year (two months and counting) so it's not terrorising other car park users. Lesson learnt for my next car.

@grass321 so, if @Wertie should not park in the middle one of 3 spaces where other cars can’t open their doors (even if she is completely within the white lines)- shouldn’t you look at at a set of three spaces where only one end one is taken and never park in the other end one because that means that the middle one is then unusable (by your standards)?

PureLife89 · 16/07/2023 20:09

Vehicles have got bigger, parking spaces haven't

This was always going to be an issue sooner or later

If certain people want to drive a large vehicle then they have to accept that this is going to be a problem for them sooner or later

I work in the motor trade and drive all manner of vehicles every day of the week. I often get in some and immediately think to myself that there's no way I'd want to drive this on a daily basis

You've done nothing wrong op

I saw a Range Rover parked poorly at a service station and then a car parked next to it. The Range Rover driver had to get in through their passenger door and climb across to the driver's seat. It was funny to watch

Clymene · 16/07/2023 20:20

DiscoDeborah · 16/07/2023 19:25

@Clymene I didn't mention their parking in my post.

You didn't. Smile

Perhaps you could be clear what you mean when you mention 'mindless frothing'?

DiscoDeborah · 16/07/2023 20:32

My post was very clear.

SinnerBoy · 17/07/2023 06:16

DownNative · Yesterday 19:47

That's in America, where the spaces are wider. They're also parked with the driver's side on the line.

The only pace near me, which has decent sized spaces is the new Lidl.

EmeraldFox · 17/07/2023 06:43

I don't understand why they would do it on the driver side line. Then the essential space for a driver to get in or out is dictated by the size of the car on the driver side not your own. No better than the situation with the OP where the gas guzzlers hardly left her any space.

SinnerBoy · 17/07/2023 07:12

Unless everyone conforms strictly, in which case, it'd work.

Badbudgeter · 17/07/2023 07:23

After this thread I went back to my car yesterday and someone had parked nearly on the white line. So I couldn’t get in my drivers side. I have a big car which is my choice so I went in rear passenger door and stepped over to drivers seat. It’s best to have a plan b so I wouldn’t reverse in to a parking space which is against a wall in case I need to shimmy through the boot.

somewhereovertherain · 17/07/2023 07:25

Wertie · 15/07/2023 18:36

Second time I’ve had a disagreement at my local station. The spaces are narrow and the carpark is very very popular. Gold dust spaces, but Tbf there is a carpark 4 min walk away that’s bigger. The station one is pokey car park not really suitable for many modern cars.

On a number of occasions I’ve found very large 4x4 cars right up to the white lines. I have an old low car, thin doors. I’m slim. I can park between two of them and get out without touching their car with my doors. It’s a squeeze, but no contact at all.

Im guessing their thick doors and higher doors make this difficult, particularly if they aren’t petite. As it’s not a disabled space I’m restricting (there are wide separate spaces the other side for disabled drivers) I just park if I can park, and don’t concern myself with other cars. If I can fit, I’m in my own space I see it as fair play.

Twice I’ve come back to moody car owners of the huge cars.

My view is if their car is huge/ they struggle to get in then they should use the half empty nearby car park as it has wider spaces and you can park at the back without neighbours. I don’t see why I should walk it, if I have no needs for extra space.

Ive just had a really screamy outraged woman shouting I should consider the space taken if I’m blocking access.

I’m maybe an arsehole, as I laughed it off. But do others agree? Do this?

I’d deliberately park in such a space to piss of the entitled large car driver. Selfish twats. Similar to those that park across two spaces.

EmeraldFox · 17/07/2023 07:31

SinnerBoy · 17/07/2023 07:12

Unless everyone conforms strictly, in which case, it'd work.

How? If you were to park on the driver side line then a gas guzzler was on your driver side, even if they were correctly on their line it may leave you with little space. Passenger side would work much better as passenger side is less important.

Conkersinautumn · 17/07/2023 07:34

It is of course entitled parking behaviour to assume noone should park next to your car in a car park.

SinnerBoy · 17/07/2023 07:48

EmeraldFox · Today 07:31

How? If you were to park on the driver side line then a gas guzzler was on your driver side, even if they were correctly on their line it may leave you with little space. Passenger side would work much better as passenger side is less important.

You can see how it does work, in the picture. They are all driver's side on the line, so the space on the passenger side give space to the adjacent car on their driver's side.

EmeraldFox · 17/07/2023 08:17

SinnerBoy · 17/07/2023 07:48

EmeraldFox · Today 07:31

How? If you were to park on the driver side line then a gas guzzler was on your driver side, even if they were correctly on their line it may leave you with little space. Passenger side would work much better as passenger side is less important.

You can see how it does work, in the picture. They are all driver's side on the line, so the space on the passenger side give space to the adjacent car on their driver's side.

I can see the picture. With our smaller parking spaces a large car may not leave me much room.

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