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To think GB News isn't a real news channel?

137 replies

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/07/2023 02:26

Because it's mostly comedians and failed/ failing politicians chatting shit?

It's not news, it's something else.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 14/07/2023 04:16

SugarRaye · 14/07/2023 04:06

Surely if they're discussing current issues, and that can be anything that's in the news or is generally affecting the population, it is news related. If a bomb went off on Tower Bridge, they'd be discussing that. They discussed Philip Schofield. They discussed the banking issue of banks cancelling accounts, they discuss gender issues, sport, the Ukraine war... I don't even watch it, and I've seen this online.

So do Loose Women. Doesn't mean Loose Women is a news show.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 14/07/2023 04:19

Ah, you've never watched it @SugarRaye. That's probably why you don't get this thread about it.Smile

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user40643 · 14/07/2023 04:29

OP can start a thread about whatever she wishes to start a thread about.

You people give Mumsnet a bad name.

SugarRaye · 14/07/2023 04:37

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/07/2023 04:19

Ah, you've never watched it @SugarRaye. That's probably why you don't get this thread about it.Smile

Exactly. I can only answer your questions from your comments. A news show doesn't have to be about breaking news that happened that day. It can be about general news stories, something lie issues that effect society.
Loose women, as I remember it but haven't seen it for ages, seemed to be about attached women discussing their non existent sex lives while attempting to convince us and themselves that they were happy with their husbands followed months later by the inevitable announcement of divorce, flirting with guests and a news discussions of the calibre of whether the queen looked good in pink.

Is that the same as GB news?

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/07/2023 04:37

I'm not keen on the comedians...
... they only appear in the newspaper review item

They also do earlier, hour long shows. The bloke who used to do Balls of Steel has a nightly show.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 14/07/2023 04:40

SugarRaye · 14/07/2023 04:37

Exactly. I can only answer your questions from your comments. A news show doesn't have to be about breaking news that happened that day. It can be about general news stories, something lie issues that effect society.
Loose women, as I remember it but haven't seen it for ages, seemed to be about attached women discussing their non existent sex lives while attempting to convince us and themselves that they were happy with their husbands followed months later by the inevitable announcement of divorce, flirting with guests and a news discussions of the calibre of whether the queen looked good in pink.

Is that the same as GB news?

That's a bit of a misogynistic take on one of the few female dominated shows on TV.Shock

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LivingDeadGirlUK · 14/07/2023 04:41

Would a news channel just broadcast bulletins 24/7 OP? Thats not really a viable way for a TV channel to get viewers these days because so many more people consume their news bulletins digitally.

They need the 'opinion peice' stuff to get the engagement and discussion of current affairs has always gone hand in hand with news bulletins.

Amby1 · 14/07/2023 04:49

It's not news. I'm read before that that is why OFCOM let them off with so much that just wouldn't fly at another news channel. They've said GB News can get away with it because they aren't a news channel. Actually surprised that 30% of voters think it is a news channel, it goes some way to explaining the state the country is in.

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/07/2023 04:50

Nothing wrong with a range of opinions @LivingDeadGirlUK. However, a news channel should give more weight to news and investigative journalism, with a range of expert opinions on the side.

That's not GB News.

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SugarRaye · 14/07/2023 04:56

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/07/2023 04:40

That's a bit of a misogynistic take on one of the few female dominated shows on TV.Shock

It's not misogynistic to despise a crap programme just because women are involved. 😄 If this is what female dominated shows are like, I'm not interested in them. I've seen The Talk and The View and they stink equally.
As a woman, I deserve better and women can do better. However, it seems like being tedious is the qualifying factor for being a panellist. Or maybe just for daytime TV! I used to quite like Janet Street Porter. But now... 🙈 🙉

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/07/2023 04:58

Fortunately it's not compulsory @SugarRaye.Grin

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FlorenceOrTheMachine · 14/07/2023 05:00

WandaWonder · 14/07/2023 02:31

What is the definition of news?

From wikipedia:

"News is information about current events. This may be provided through many different media: word of mouth, printing, postal systems, broadcasting, electronic communication, or through the testimony of observers and witnesses to events. News is sometimes called "hard news" to differentiate it from soft media."

I mean, it's hardly rocket science to have a decent intuitive grasp of what is actual news and what is bollox.

GB News is news in the same sense that Fox News is. It's a media network owned by a congomerate of very wealthy individuals who want to access to UK business markets whilst paying as little tax as possible. To this end they push an (often extreme) rightwing agenda that supports their business aims and appeals to a portion of the UK electorate of a certain rosy pink complexion.

Media Bias Fact check report it as having a credibility rating of "Low Credibility". Full report here: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gb-news-uk-bias/

From this I infer that GB News profers bollox.

GB News UK - Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gb-news-uk-bias

LivingDeadGirlUK · 14/07/2023 05:03

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/07/2023 04:50

Nothing wrong with a range of opinions @LivingDeadGirlUK. However, a news channel should give more weight to news and investigative journalism, with a range of expert opinions on the side.

That's not GB News.

Well its not a GOOD news channel, but its there to fill the niche of people who still give a shit what Nigel Farage thinks.

Just look at all the lifting of mumsnet threads as 'news' by other news outlets and you can see they are all looking for filler that riles up opinion.

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/07/2023 05:05

LessonLearnedOrLearnt · 14/07/2023 03:02

They do allow gender critical feminists to speak so not all bad.

Toilets within the GB News set are Gender Neutral though. No single sex facilities for women there.Hmm

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SugarRaye · 14/07/2023 05:09

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/07/2023 04:58

Fortunately it's not compulsory @SugarRaye.Grin

😂😂 Touché. No indeed. Because unlike you and GB news, I loathe and despise LW.
Fortunately, I have no idea what it is like these days because I haven't seen it for years. Although occasionally a headline of their latest tripe comes up in my feed. Aghh. I was so happy when a headline appeared that Stacey Solomon was leaving the country. Hoo-bloody-ray. Turns out I was tricked and it was just a holiday and she came back. Noooo. 😭

CharlieRight · 14/07/2023 05:10

It’s padding I guess, all the news channels have to do it to some extent. There’s plenty of news out there, enough to not have to repeat a story. But going out and getting it is expensive so we get opinion shows and interviews instead it’s the same on bbc news and sky news etc but maybe less obvious and maybe people don’t care so much because they are not unacceptably “right wing”

cakeorwine · 14/07/2023 06:18

Having seen one "interview" recently, it reminded me of the chats Ministers used to have when the person who was interviewing them completely agreed with them, didn't challenge them and just let them carry on with their agenda.

The "news presenter" presenting the programme did seem a bit biased about the piece he was presenting. He might have used the word "woke" a lot.

VisionsOfSplendour · 14/07/2023 06:21

Why does it matter?

Are some viewers being duped into watching it then finding themselves unable to turn over?

Does news have a statutory meaning in TV land?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 14/07/2023 06:34

I think the problem with GB News is that it calls itself "News". This means that viewers who lack critical thinking skills might get confused and think it's actually news rather than right wing propaganda.

There should be some minimum standards with regard to balance and truth for channels to be able to describe themselves as news, imo. The "low credibility" channels should be described in some other way.

EsmeSusanOgg · 14/07/2023 06:42

There was something about Ofcom investigating this.

Serving politicians are not allowed to be news reporters/ anchors on broadcast channels. But they are allowed to be on current affairs and magazine programmes. Ofcom said it was reviewing rules as GB News was presenting some programming as 'news' when it was overtly political by claiming a loop hole.

So... Yes and no?

boobot1 · 14/07/2023 06:47

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/07/2023 04:40

That's a bit of a misogynistic take on one of the few female dominated shows on TV.Shock

And yet still true

Sunnysunbun · 14/07/2023 06:49

You only have to look at it to figure out it's highly dubious.

DdraigGoch · 14/07/2023 06:50

I don't think that it actually claims to be a news channel (despite the name). It's officially a talk channel which means that it's not subject to the same rules that apply to a news channel.

boobot1 · 14/07/2023 06:51

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 14/07/2023 06:34

I think the problem with GB News is that it calls itself "News". This means that viewers who lack critical thinking skills might get confused and think it's actually news rather than right wing propaganda.

There should be some minimum standards with regard to balance and truth for channels to be able to describe themselves as news, imo. The "low credibility" channels should be described in some other way.

You could say that about all the news channels. The standards now are absolutely shocking. Its more interesting what they dont report than what they do.

cakeorwine · 14/07/2023 06:51

DdraigGoch · 14/07/2023 06:50

I don't think that it actually claims to be a news channel (despite the name). It's officially a talk channel which means that it's not subject to the same rules that apply to a news channel.

Does it identify as a Talk channel?

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