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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be a bit concerned about someone about someone calling my daughter this

298 replies

Fashionista22 · 08/07/2023 20:33

We were at a family party and someone that we don’t know very well (but seems was quite friendly and nice) called my daughter a ‘saucepot’. I didn’t think much of it at the time but I googled it later and found out it was a phrase to describe someone being sexy. He’ll be at another event in a couple of weeks..AIBU to find it a bit weird and want to keep more of a distance?

OP posts:
StopStartStop · 08/07/2023 20:59

A 'saucepot' is a cheeky child. It's affectionate. It is not sexual. It's not creepy.
I have never heard it used to refer to mixed heritage! That might have been a reference to 'melting pot' from someone who remembers the 1970s.
I'm significantly under 75.
'Sass' is an Americanism. I wouldn't expect older UKers to know it.

VioletCharlotte · 08/07/2023 21:00

My Grandma used to say this to me. Saucey can mean cheeky as well as sexy!

Rotormotor · 08/07/2023 21:01

Where I’m from it means cheeky. I think you’re reading too much into it

Echio · 08/07/2023 21:01

Fuss over nothing from my perspective!!

Tho it might be used to mean 'sexy' if used against a grownup, for a 2 year old it's clearly just used to mean 'what a little character!'. It's just an expression, quite common. In my family we've called all the little ones 'trouble' or 'little minx' or 'little saucepot' or 'little devil' or 'cheeky monkey' or 'toad' etc etc. All 100% light-hearted, no real meaning behind it at all, just means they're showing a bit of character.

Lovingitallnow · 08/07/2023 21:01

@YesLittleElephant have you really! I stand corrected

Growlybear83 · 08/07/2023 21:02

Tribblesarelovely · 08/07/2023 20:39

You are BU. It’s an expression that used to be common. Just means cheeky little thing. Bloody hell, you can’t say anything now without someone misinterpreting it.

I agree with this completely. I've never heard the word used to describe anything other than a young child being cheeky. I think you're being very unreasonable.

Brk · 08/07/2023 21:02

Trust your instincts OP. We can debate the precise meaning of “saucepot” all night but if you’re uncomfortable with the way someone is interacting with your child, that’s all you need to know.

Creepiness aside, it’s very common for confident girls to be criticised and undermined by sexist older men whenever the girl displays confidence. This starts young. Whether he’s a creep or merely old fashioned, if someone called my daughter a saucepot or any other put down, I would be demonstrating to her very clearly how to respond. Eg “What a very odd and impolite thing to say. Perhaps it’s best if we go talk to someone else now.”

BMW6 · 08/07/2023 21:03

It doesn't (to me) have sexual connotations, like Sexpot.

To me (65) it denotes a cheeky spirited person

bellac11 · 08/07/2023 21:03

OwlBasket · 08/07/2023 20:51

it totally depends on his age TBH. If he’s under about 75 there’s no excuse.

The older meaning of saucy / sauce pot was cheeky / sassy / forward, and nothing sexual. Let’s say it meant ‘pleasantly challenging’. It seemed to morph over to meaning forward / provocative / sexy in the 80s and 90s. So, another shade of ‘pleasantly challenging’. The first was fine with children, the latter very obviously not.

Its always meant both. Context is important.

FoodFann · 08/07/2023 21:03

@EscapeRoomToTheSun I completely agree - you wouldn’t say that to a boy. It’s blatant sexism at best, and sexualisation at worst. Either way, I would steer clear of the MAN who said it.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 08/07/2023 21:05

YesLittleElephant · 08/07/2023 20:54

When I was growing up saucepot was something our grandparents and aunts and uncles said. It just meant cheeky or sassy. My grandmother would also say "don't be saucy," if I was rude or cheeky. She would also call us "saucy Anna." No idea what the Anna bit meant.

I know saucy Nancy but no saucy Anna!

MustYou · 08/07/2023 21:05

The thing is, if you don’t know him very well and it made you feel uncomfortable, for whatever reason, then there’s no reason for you to give him the benefit of the doubt, you don’t owe him politeness or anything. Just keep your distance.

bellac11 · 08/07/2023 21:05

Duttercup · 08/07/2023 20:56

I've called my nephew a sauceboat about once a week since he was born...

Ive said it to boys, in particular boys because they are more often than not cheeky little saucepots.

Thosepeskyseagulls · 08/07/2023 21:06

Fashionista22 · 08/07/2023 20:37

She’s 2 x

Ew!

Phos · 08/07/2023 21:07

Given this is Mumsnet Land where all men are vile paedophiles, not surprised by the responses. Meanwhile back in the real world, the balance of probably swings heavily towards this guy, like many people on this thread, thought it meant a cheeky little thing, loads of character, that kind of thing.

cyncope · 08/07/2023 21:07

I've only ever heard it used to mean sexy, so interesting to know the older meaning was cheeky/sassy.

Midnightpony · 08/07/2023 21:09

My DM calls my son a blond bombshell.
She doesn't realize it's a ridiculous thing to say to a child, and especially a boy

She also used to call him another name that's too outing but along the lines of sauce pot til I told her eventually what it now means and that it's not a word used for boys anyway.

I'd put it down to not realizing language has changed

runwithme · 08/07/2023 21:10

Tribblesarelovely · 08/07/2023 20:39

You are BU. It’s an expression that used to be common. Just means cheeky little thing. Bloody hell, you can’t say anything now without someone misinterpreting it.

But she hasn't misinterpreted it. She googled it and found that as a definition. As it goes, I though it meant cheeky, but I can see why some think its the same as the OP.
And she isn't the only one, others think it inappropriate. I'd like to think that on this occasion, he meant cheeky. "saucy" can mean cheeky or it can mean sexy, one is appropriate, one is not

FictionalCharacter · 08/07/2023 21:10

Tribblesarelovely · 08/07/2023 20:39

You are BU. It’s an expression that used to be common. Just means cheeky little thing. Bloody hell, you can’t say anything now without someone misinterpreting it.

I agree. Was this an older person? It never used to mean sexy, it used to mean cheeky, and was used in an affectionate way. My family used to call kids this a lot when I was little. I haven’t heard it for decades.

bellac11 · 08/07/2023 21:10

Phos · 08/07/2023 21:07

Given this is Mumsnet Land where all men are vile paedophiles, not surprised by the responses. Meanwhile back in the real world, the balance of probably swings heavily towards this guy, like many people on this thread, thought it meant a cheeky little thing, loads of character, that kind of thing.

One thing this site has shown me is just how ill informed and unknowledgeable about a whole host of cultural, historical and colloquial information.

Not only do people not know of it in one of its most common forms, apparently it is also never said to boys!!!

dawngreen · 08/07/2023 21:10

A hot-pot of minxyness that proves near-irresistable to anyone who gets close. There's another word to describe but i forget :/
Holly balls mang, did you see that saucepot? whistle

Person1: We have go for missile launch
Person2: Roger that, launchin.... God damn, check out the saucepot over there!

If a old guyI think it was his way of saying she was a little minx - cheeky

Urban Dictionary: close

to knock boots with a member of the oposite sex, as in close the deal

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=close

Moonlightdust · 08/07/2023 21:12

Theraffarian · 08/07/2023 20:41

A term my grandmother would have used in her 80s to mean cheeky when being used to describe a toddler . Old fashioned term , was it an older person who said it ?

Oh definitely - I’ve heard this used by older generations before and it’s always been meant as in cheeky!

runwithme · 08/07/2023 21:12

Growlybear83 · 08/07/2023 21:02

I agree with this completely. I've never heard the word used to describe anything other than a young child being cheeky. I think you're being very unreasonable.

But the OP has never heard the word being used, so if she's then found out that it means 'sexy' then how is she going to feel comfortable with it? If she found the definition that you feel it to be (and for what its worth, I thought it mean the same as you), then she would have felt differently.
OP is entitled to feel the way she does, because she believed it to mean sexy. She is not unreasonable to feel that way

saraclara · 08/07/2023 21:14

Where I grew up it absolutely meant cheeky. I heard it a lot, so it wouldn't occur to me to think of it meaning sexy.

So yes, regional, and also more likely to be used by someone older. I wouldn't give it s thought, especially if it was said publicly at a family event. No-one is going to use a sexualised term about a two year old in front of her family members.

Cardifflost · 08/07/2023 21:14

It's an old fashioned term for cheeky some of my older relatives say it. There is nothing intended. But I find it creepy and have said I don't like it.

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