Splitsavers always taking my reserved seat!!

[Chatandtea]

Is it just me but seems majority of time I get on a train, a person with a split saver ticket has taken my seat not realising that their ticket has only reserved a seat for 1 leg of their journey. Frustrated that people don’t check their reservations more thoroughly but also that the trains companies/sellers are allowing this confusion to roll on and on. Often spoils journey trying to sort the issue out

Chatandtea · Today 12:37

Yes I do but they say it’s their seat until I mention the whole split saver thing and they check and find actually it isn’t their seat for that part of the journey.

At least they move, which is the main thing. Last month, I did Aberdeen to Newcastle on a split seat ticket and there were announcements at every stop, telling people to move, if they only had a reservation to whatever stop.

As it happened, nobody came for mine, I'd stood up and watched and waited until well after we'd left.

No, I'll stay in a seat until a reservation holder shows up, unless there's a nearby unreserved or unclaimed seat I can move to, in which case I will do that to avoid ending up seatless. I won't let my anxious feelings, or those of any other potential person I haven't even encountered yet, control my life.

How is it self centred to want the seat you have specifically reserved to be ideally unoccupied or at the veryleast someone to vacate it without you having to ask them when it looks clear they are sitting in your seat

Sitting in reserved seats is common with or without a split ticket. Open tickets often mean people reserve a seat on a specific train but can take any, and so the reserved seat likely as not doesn't get used. People aren't going to leave a seat open on a busy train just in case the person with the reservation turns up. It's perfectly normal that if you have a reservation you may have to ask somebody to clear the seat so you can use it.
If saying 'excuse me, I have that seat reserved from this station' ruins your entire trip, then it sounds like the problem is you have some personal issues to work on, not an issue with people using split tickets or sitting in seats that aren't currently being used.

I guess that's a no then, @Chatandtea

Wow some of these responses 🙄 I don't think the OP needs councelling because she finds it annoying to have to get a conductor involved because people either can't or won't accept it's not their seat for the entire journey.

As I said if it becomes clear is unlikely it will be used then I haven’t got a problem with that, just give the person with the reservation chance to get on the train ans to their seat first. Why would I go to the effort to try and become desensitised to rude people, just highlights the arrogance of such people that they think people should ‘adapt’ or ‘get treatment’ to put up with them

And you implication? That I shouldn’t be able to occupy my reserved seat without having to rectify a faulty system?

She doesn't even want to politely approach and ask. She wants them to move if they see her coming, which I think is an unreasonable expectation.

But a lot of us don’t think it’s rude to sit in the seat so long as we are prepared to move if the person with the reservation shows up.

It’s not a matter of ‘becoming desensitised to rude people’ (dramatic much), it’s a matter of accepting you are not the sole arbiter of what amounts to being rude and a lot of people don’t agree with you that people doing this are rude.

Not moving when the person who’s seat it is shows up is rude in my view.

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Sitting there isn’t

If I vacate a seat before being approached by the reservation holder then someone else is just as likely to sit there instead.

Don’t think it’s unreasonable if your likely to be sitting in someone else’s reserved seat and they are looking at your seat number as if it’s theirs, that you profusely apologise and get up and move before they have to ask you

The thought of if your not selfish enough to sit in someone else’s reserved seat before it’s even left the station, someone else will be even more selfish? Great justification

No, they’re just normal and can handle a simple request to move.
Its really not a big deal.

So you still speak to each other? Why is the asking such a big deal? Are you approaching in a confrontational manner? We will have to agree to disagree it seems.

And how do I know it’s yours unless you tell me? There will be lots of people looking for seats. Most of them won’t have reserved the seat I’m in.

It might make a difference that I’m usually ‘returning’ on an off peak London train. I’d say the majority of the reservations are not taken up - lots of business people (like me) guessing at when their meetings will be finished and often getting it wrong.

Same as before, you don’t get to decide what’s ‘selfish’ any more than you get to decide what’s ‘rude’. You’ve created these arbitrary rules of behaviour in your head and you think anyone who doesn’t comply with them is at fault.

As this thread shows, many people don’t agree with you.

I don't consider it selfish to sit somewhere until someone with a reservation lets me know the seat is theirs.

Did you know that research by LNER showed that 56% of people would rather stand or try and find another seat than have to ask someone to move. So the person whose seat your sitting in has gone to the effort to book their seat (which you yourself can do almost up to departure online) and while your sitting there thinking they haven’t turned up, good chance they are actually standing or not sitting where they had arranged or otherwise probably a bit annoyed at having to have had to ask you to move. That’s the reality

only 74% of people plus most of the people I know, just glad mix in your circles. Don’t tell me you stand in door ways chatting too?

I have to say my polite approach requesting another passenger move from my reserved seat was met with the advice I need to fuck off because they got there first.

The conductor was not terribly helpful , when the passenger in my seat also refused his request to move he shrugged and said to me that he couldn’t make them move therefore I would have to stand until someone got off.

That should read ‘don’t’ personally find life much more pleasant surrounded by considerate people

Yes you are right OP. If it was made clear when they bought the ticket then this issue wouldn't arise.

That is awful and no doubt puts a lot of people off even daring to ask :(