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Is it possible to put up with MIL you hate for childcare?

98 replies

Needsomeadvice33 · 07/07/2023 17:50

Hear me out. I know the title will be considered selfish and it partly is but I have no care for this woman at all.
I am pregnant with first, inlaws don't know yet. I have a very poor relationship with them spanning over 5 years. They treated me very badly (many lies and manipulations) and now I have a delibrately very superficial relationship with them. See them about 3 times per year and grey rock them, i have no discussions with them via phone, text, etc. This works well for me.
I know their expectations will change now first grandchild and MIL is baby obsessed. This is also likely the only grandchild they will have. As I will only have 1 and BIL has a load of health problems and it's very unlikely he will have kids.
I consider myself a very reasonable person and she's not an unsafe women and would make a satisfactory grandmother so ive no worries regarding contact with a child. I am trying to decide if I should work hard during my pregnancy to learn to accept and tolerate her (though she absolutely does not deserve this) for my own wellbeing and that of the child (though I honestly don't think a relationship with her will bring much to their lives). I will not need childcare, I work part time and opposite to my husband, so logistically i will never actually need her. Though I like my time to myself and know she will want to be heavily involved - so i can see how i could benefit from her intrest. Ill be honest im not a typical maternal type and was no kids/ on the fence for years. My family are close by and we are very close to them but there's loads of grandkids on my side and the novelty has worn off in my family of new babies.
I'm curious to hear from people who had poor inlaw relationships pre kids and how it panned out for them? I read loads of threads of people upset that grandparents and disinterested then think if I keep her at arms length am I cutting my nose off to spite my face. But I genuinely don't know if it's even possible to tollerate and have regular contact with a woman you have despised for years - can anyone actually do this? It's worth mentioning my husband has had a poor relationship with them long before he met me and sees them very minimally ( though a little more than me). He thinks both his parents have treated me badly and would be happy for me to never see them again. I see them about 3 times per year for him. They live a 10 min drive from us.I belive they are both just so badly damaged by abandonment from their own parents, they have not managed to maintain any family relationships or friendships with anyone and are now living a very lonely existence in their 60s and literally the only interactions they have are with eachother, BIL and hospital appointments. My BIL was always the golden child and my scapegoat husband now keeps as little contact with them as possible and feels hes owes them nothing, of course they are completely unable to to have any accountability and are just victims.

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Florissante · 07/07/2023 18:21

Needsomeadvice33 · 07/07/2023 18:10

I think I've said the wrong word saying childcare, probably should have said babysitting. I don't mean it as a regular, scheduled thing. More meant me facilitating contact without me there and having to see her myself.

Childcare = babysitting. You detest your mother-in-law but want her to look after your child for free. YABVVVU.

Sheranovermytoes · 07/07/2023 18:25

Its two faced and shallow to use someone you hate for free childcare. Just pay someone, no matter what you think you shouldn't be having a goodnbutch about her then saying here look after my kid.

Sheranovermytoes · 07/07/2023 18:25

Sorry bitch not butch.

Florissante · 07/07/2023 18:26

It will be interesting to see how the OP's child's partner feels about the OP when the time comes...

Needsomeadvice33 · 07/07/2023 18:27

@Sheranovermytoes so does my baby only see her 3 times per year as I don't want to see her anymore than that?

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Needsomeadvice33 · 07/07/2023 18:30

People saying I'm expecting free childcare I'm not. I don't need it. I know my MIL will want regular contact without me there and I will prefer that as I hate seeing her. I'm just wondering how possible that will actually be to tollerate such an arrangement.

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CatsSnore · 07/07/2023 18:31

Honestly some rubbish mothers can be excellent grandmothers. The emotional block has gone. Kids also need as many loving people around them as possible and if she is that, I'd encourage the relationship.

She will be just as transactional in her dealings with you as you are thinking about free childcare.

So I'd do it. As long as it's a 3 way win (you, baby, her) and everyone is happy and gains from it then there really isn't an issue.

Needsomeadvice33 · 07/07/2023 18:33

@CatsSnore yes I think your right. It is a 3 way transaction, she will want contact without me there as much as I won't want to see her myself. It will very likely be mutually beneficial.

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Inkpotlover · 07/07/2023 18:35

Florissante · 07/07/2023 18:21

Childcare = babysitting. You detest your mother-in-law but want her to look after your child for free. YABVVVU.

^ This. You accuse her in your OP of manipulative behaviour but what you're doing is the same. And your poor child will be stuck in the middle of it, like some kind of pawn.

SiennaSienna · 07/07/2023 18:35

I wouldn't. I get on ok with mine and she still kept undermining me at every turn. "mummy won't let granny give you a treat' etc and many more statements along those lines. (Happily we now live on another continent) Maybe once a month for an hour would be ok but I'd try to avoid a regular set up.

Inkpotlover · 07/07/2023 18:37

Also, where is your DP/DH in all this? Does he know how much you despise her?

Needsomeadvice33 · 07/07/2023 18:40

@Inkpotlover How is facilitating contact with her grandchild (which I know she will want) manipulative? I don't need to use language to pretend I like a women that I despise. I owe her nothing and I don't care about her. I'm not going to manipulate her into free childcare this women lives for babies! She's obsessed, she never achieved anything and thinks kids are the centre of the universe, you really think she would rather I "use" her for babysitting or sees her grandkid 3 times per year. What do you really think a woman like that will want.

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L1342 · 07/07/2023 18:40

Littlemissprosecco · 07/07/2023 18:01

I have a batshit mil, but hand in heart if anybody asks, I truly tried my best and gave her every opportunity.

Same here but it was never enough and I was always the bad person!

Inkpotlover · 07/07/2023 18:41

Needsomeadvice33 · 07/07/2023 18:40

@Inkpotlover How is facilitating contact with her grandchild (which I know she will want) manipulative? I don't need to use language to pretend I like a women that I despise. I owe her nothing and I don't care about her. I'm not going to manipulate her into free childcare this women lives for babies! She's obsessed, she never achieved anything and thinks kids are the centre of the universe, you really think she would rather I "use" her for babysitting or sees her grandkid 3 times per year. What do you really think a woman like that will want.

I meant by facilitating contact to use her for babysitting. If she's that vile, I'd want her around my child as little as possible.

Needsomeadvice33 · 07/07/2023 18:43

@Inkpotlover he's fully aware I despise her. He's 100% on my side and seen the crap they have pulled over the years. Fortunately they are not clever and left many receipts. He has disliked her for years before he met me and actually he tollerates her waay less than I do. Like he blows up at her sending a text about the weather becuase he cant stand any interactions with her. He has deep rooted dislike for her now.

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FofB · 07/07/2023 18:46

Can you trust her to not bad-mouth you/OH when you aren't around?

Needsomeadvice33 · 07/07/2023 18:48

@Inkpotlover but other women with poor inlaw relationships have facilitated contact in teh same way I was planning and it has been been beneficial for all 3 parties, dil/mil/grandchild. I will never get on with this woman but I was looking for experiences of a set up like this working or not working. And the contact has to be mainly without me there as i hate this wpman more the more often i see her. This was the point of my thread. Looking for others experience of something I have no experience of.

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Inkpotlover · 07/07/2023 18:49

Needsomeadvice33 · 07/07/2023 18:43

@Inkpotlover he's fully aware I despise her. He's 100% on my side and seen the crap they have pulled over the years. Fortunately they are not clever and left many receipts. He has disliked her for years before he met me and actually he tollerates her waay less than I do. Like he blows up at her sending a text about the weather becuase he cant stand any interactions with her. He has deep rooted dislike for her now.

Crikey! In that case why on earth do either of you have ANY contact with her and why on earth are you considering exposing your child to her? Isn't there a really good chance she'll repeat those patterns with your child? I'd be NC.

Needsomeadvice33 · 07/07/2023 18:49

@FofB I honestly think if she was getting regular contact she would be on best behaviour type thing as she would be getting what she wants.

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Florissante · 07/07/2023 18:50

FofB · 07/07/2023 18:46

Can you trust her to not bad-mouth you/OH when you aren't around?

Why should she? This is exactly what the OP is doing so she would have no grounds for complaint.

Needsomeadvice33 · 07/07/2023 18:52

@Inkpotlover yes I do get that. We have been very low contact for 2 years now and they have been best behaviour since. I didn't speak to them for a full year once after lies after my wedding and my husband cuts her off for months if she tries anything. We see them so little now that conflict is pretty impossible and they know we will just stop seeing them. How can you go no contact when there is currently no conflict. The relationship is so superficial, surface level, nothing to it. Its like talking to strangers, there is no depth whatsoever.

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CatsSnore · 07/07/2023 18:55

You will have to develop an attitude of what she does with your lovely new addition is up to her.

My Grandparents and my mother have both fed my dc so much crap over the years, cakes, biscuits, my bloody grandad started giving my 6 month old baby white chocolate (organic tho so all good..) they bought them so much plastic tat and at times there were dangerous things going on when I wasn't there (roller skating in my dnans kitchen).

Apart from the actual dangerous stuff like roller skating in the kitchen, I let it all go. I let them treat them and do things their way. If I had got into a power battle with them over petty minor shit that really didn't matter in the long term, then it wouldn't have been worth it. I would have been wound up and uptight about it all. Instead I took it as a win that my dc had so much fun and were loved so much. I also loved the free time and the fact I could have a week away and know my dc were 100% happy to be with my mum or my grandparents. It really will depend on your personality type though!

5128gap · 07/07/2023 18:55

No. Its one or the other OP. This woman cannot be both as bad as you say and a 'satisfactory grandparent'. If your hatred of her is justified you shouldn't want her around your child. Not to mention that no fractious in law relationship was ever improved by throwing shared care of a child into the mix.

Milkand2sugarsplease · 07/07/2023 18:55

I'd be keeping it as it is and not going all out to facilitate a relationship with baby unless she can change her ways.

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