Is the UK beyond repair?

[Brrrrrrrrrrrr]

I’m sure plenty will come along to say I’m BU but for the past few weeks I’ve really started to question where this country and our society is heading and whether or not things are ever going to get better and when that might be.

We have economic chaos driven by high inflation, increasing interest rates and a total lack of urgency by anyone in charge to seemingly do anything about it. We have a government in power that seem to have nothing but contempt for anyone that doesn’t resemble their backers, ministers openly mocking critics on social media and a PM who can not remember if he may or may not have had something to do with benefiting from £5 million of Russian money. What on Earth have we become?

Our Health service is being systematically picked apart and left to decay away much to the detriment of those who rely on it or who cannot afford Private healthcare. We have Medical professionals striking because they are underpaid again to the detriment of those who rely on said services, wait lists are through the roof and the levels of care being received are understandably inadequate.

The education sector is a ticking time bomb because teachers are seeing the demands of their roles increase, funding cuts, the behaviour of the pupils start to become impossible to manage and the prospect of an easier life switching to another career too hard to resist.

Food bank usage is at an all time high, not just by those in charge who don’t know poverty but working professionals who can not afford to feed their families because the cost of living has zapped every last penny from them. The reality on the streets of real life Is so far detached from that seen on social media that it’s like looking at a different planet.

It just feels bleak and I don’t see how things are going to change, I’m often an optimist but this is stretching any semblance of light in the tunnel. Anyone else? Is this the type of world you want your children to live in? Surely they deserve better? How can this be fixed?

If you are unhappy with the consocialists, who could blame you. If you think Labour are the answer, your bar is below the level of the seabed.

Our economy is broken, our public spending is out of control, productivity is through the floor, the number of economically inactive people is too high, our infrastructure has more cracks than a Roman vase, healthcare is in crisis, we don’t have enough housing, and the list goes on.

Consocialists have given up anyway so they are irrelevant. But what answers have Labour presented? None, zilch, nada.

There’s a very good way to find out. They sure as hell couldn’t do any worse. Anyone who describes Yvette Cooper, Rachel Reeves, Wes Streeting or Thangam Debbonaire as “numpties” clearly hasn’t cast a look at the benches opposite. I give you Rees Mogg, Dowden, the amusingly named Cleverly and Braverman.

Mass migration is happening now. 600k net migration last year and at current run rate under consocialists would be 1 million in a couple of years.

I hear what you are saying about Labour but consocialists have really done a number on conservative voters. A gift to this woeful labour party.

The Tories have debased Britain to the point where we are seen as a weak, unstable, uninvestable basket case on the international stage. Because that's what we are now. That's what 13 years of Tory government has done to us.

A change of government gives hope for change and the chance to build trust.

I don’t just mean work visas I mean people risking their lives to cross the Med or channel in huge numbers because of climate emergency in their own countries.

Europe will find that tough, they already are a bit. If it happens it’ll get dicey.

Too true. Angela ‘oi scum’ Rayner, Rachel ‘nobody else wants to be chancellor’ Reeves, David ‘Corbynista’ Lammy and the remaining bunch of less than mediocre wet lettuces. Only the current crop of consocialists could let these morons get into power. How did it get this bad. The mind boggles.

Really ?

https://www.thenational.scot/news/23605813.labour-only-10-mps-capable-ministers-insider-says/

Well I'm glad at least one person has hope that it will make any difference at all, but I can't see it and judging by most of the comments on the thread here, neither can anyone else. The system is the problem and until that changes, nothing else will (in any meaningful way).

I don’t think the mass illegal migration is an accident. This govt is corrupt and incompetent as well as liars. Given that successive govts have destroyed our economy, they rely on mass migration and cheap labour to massage the GDP figures. Combined with a declining birth rate, this is the laziest way to make it look like we have economic growth. Even though GDP per capita keeps dropping and everyone gets poorer in reality. The cheapest labour you can bring in on illegal migrants.

What does your link have to do with the fact the Tories have wrecked the country and we need to get them out before we can change and get better?

OP the UK is not beyond repair. We just need competent and committed people in power.
We know how to build economies for example, the current government has not been interested in building our economy instead using gimmicks like Freeport's that we already know do not work.
Building the economy, building a good NHS and education system takes boring graft. It is not about cheap headlines and soundbites. Which is why it never appeals to careerists and those who want to grab the headlines.

I think they’d love to stop illegal migration, they’ll lose loads of votes if not.

The HoL is putting a stopper on that though, rather ironically since Labour want to get rid of it

I do agree with your summary of Labour current crop on the incoming. Mind boggling indeed.

And migrants and asylum seekers still come to britain because some countries are way worse. But one of the issues in britain is the setting of a low bar. We have to be ambitious and want things to be better.

Well that’s balanced journalism, isn’t it? That source is clearly made up. No member of an opposition aspiring to win an election would trot out that disloyal, career destroying bile to a journalist. It looks like an SNP propaganda product to me.

The migration is not illegal. It is not illegal to cross the channel on a small boat and claim asylum.
But this just demonstrates some of the issues in this country. Lies circulate as if they are facts and the level of public awareness around basic facts is very low. It is why the government can get away with being totally incompetent over issues like the economy.

I don’t mind if people use mass migration by boat, just something that separates from working visas

I don’t know about beyond repair, but I think Brexit will make us poorer for at least 15 years.

According to one of its greatest proponents, Rees Mogg, it will take 50 years to see its benefits. I haven’t got 50 years.

Asylum-seekers are supposed to claim asylum in the first safe country they get to - otherwise they are not "escaping" an unsafe place. They've probably crossed several, or least 1, before they get on a small boat to cross the English Channel to get to the UK.

And those who can afford it should pay more in taxes - always the solution of the left. We (the professional middle classes) already pay vast amounts of tax. Perhaps the government should cut its cloth better: less waste and inefficiency.

It’s not totally beyond repair but the damage is so substantial that the UK, and England especially, will not be as good as it once was for a generation or more.

Neither has he! (Fingers crossed.)

It seems to be the solution of the right at the moment. We’re the most heavily taxed we’ve been for 70 years - to pay the ever increasing interest on its profligate borrowing.

@FedUpWithEverything123 that is not true. That is what our government want, but it is not the law.

Brexit has damaged the economy. But a renegotiated Brexit agreement of the kind Theresa May negotiated would repair most of the damage. This is fixable.