AIBU to think that downloading hundreds of sexual and abusive images of children should mean jail?

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YABU - there should not be jail time for some who download hundreds of images of child abuse

YANBU - downloading hundreds of images of sexual abuse of children should mean jail

The individual could have been put into segregation.

Woman.

No jail.

they should hang. Why in the world do people think jail will rehabilitate them. They need eradication.

Commit fraud? Jail time for you! (anyone else remember what happened to the many innocent post office workers?)

Spend your spare time watching children being raped? Oh well, you were in a dark space, and unfortunately there are just too many men who like watching children being raped to fit in prison, so a few months probation will have to do.

Behind each one of those images is a young victim and I cannot imagine how they face life after what they go through.

Prison does nothing for them except put them with other like minded individuals and hone their craft. I do not believe pedophiles can be rehabilitated. Chemical castration may help.

Being trans has nothing to do with it.

People are correct it's sentencing guidelines that are the real issue here. Even if trans status does get taken into consideration there a raft of other factors that also get looked at.

I worked with someone found guilty of possessing hundreds of CSA images. They rank them in severity (imagine the poor police officers who have to do that 🙁) and he had most in the 'mid' range and only a 'few' at the worst. And it was his first offence. So that all counted.

He was also a white, middle aged, middle class senior professional with a nice house in some little Home Counties village. I'm sure that helped. He got a suspended sentence, 5 years on the sex offenders register and some sort of court ordered counselling. So nothing much really.

Apparently and unbelievably his wife stayed with him but I heard his children cut him off from seeing the grandkids.

They may still have the urge if castrated.

But they can't do much without their hands.

Got to protect the men, however they identify.

Who are the scummy pedo sympathisers who voted Yabu? 🤮
Child sex offenders, including those who download these vile images are the lowest of the low - they ALL repeat offend. Anyone who thinks they don’t are being ridiculously naive.

Tougher jail time & chemical castration.

It was a magistrates court and the remarks were made in mitigation by the defence.

A very dark place is not a mental health diagnosis as far as I'm aware.

There is no acceptable mitigation for watching children being raped as far as I'm concerned and our sentencing should be geared towards making it near enough impossible for them to reoffend. I quite like the idea of penal colonies.

@Babdoc one of my friends works in this field and I agree, there's so many people who fall into this category they can't even keep up with the numbers, the huge amount of digital data and then put them all in prison, there's no room. Horrific but just unmanageable.

Whoever the remarks were made by, the fact remains that a good support network helps stop reoffending.

"A very dark place" is not a diagnosis but it tells us there was clearly discussion of his mental state in court, which I would have thought was obvious.

There will always be mitigation no matter how heinous the crime. That's the defence's job and they'd be doing a poor job if they didn't.

Of course they can

Some of you are incredibly dim

The OP is "deranged"? That's an unusual way to describe someone upset that a paedophile wasn't sent to prison.

@Failingjuggler

Don't be so fucking rude.

Rude?

Nah there are plenty of idiots outing themselves on this thread

Of course it’s deranged

To think this is a trans issue is laughable

Thanks Florissante

I'm sure I'll be accused of transphobia by at least one poster here but this is wrong. Apart from the fact that crime is horrific crime stats are being skewed because apparently this piece of male bodied scum believes he is a woman and the system seems happy to take his word for it.

Damn right the impact on womens offending stats is a trans issue

No I don't think downloading should mean jail. I think producing should mean jail, sharing should mean jail but not downloading.
I know someone who downloaded by accident through file sharing large amounts of files and since then I take a different view, I think it's too grey with the internet as unregulated as it is.

I agree. It's frustrating when crimes - particularly when they are sex crimes - committed by transwomen are noted as being committed by women.

Could you explain what you consider deranged? Because the defence of a paedophile seems like a weird thing to prioritize here, and you do seem to be feeling very defensive of them. From reading the OP, it sounds like being transgender was a factor given during sentencing in not giving a custodial sentence. But I guess you can prioritize the gendering of a paedophile if that's your thing.

Who is defending a pedophile?

The OP is wrongly stating the only reason this person didn’t receive a jail sentence is due to being trans

its not