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Child out of wedlock / illegitimate - does it still matter

329 replies

Bananabreadandstrawberries · 05/07/2023 13:30

Does it still matter in any way whether your child was born within a marriage or not? Is there any stigma to being an ‘unwed mother’ or ‘illegitimate child’ (apologies no offence intended). Do you view people differently before of this status? Are there any practical implications?

For those of you who feel it doesn’t matter, would you still prefer your own daughter were married before having children?

I ask as I feel despite most people not minding this about other people, the couples ‘doing better’ in life still tend to marry before having children. I am not sure

AIBU that legitimacy doesn’t matter anymore?
YES = Makes a difference (even though it’s not PC to say so)
NO = Makes no difference about being married before children.

OP posts:
Diedre44 · 08/07/2023 18:22

I was born "out of wedlock" in 1978. I am NC with all family. My great grandmother (females side) refused to to ever meet me or refer to me other than "the b@stard." She had no qualms with parents and would see them often while I was looked after by males sides mother). Parents did marry in 1980 went on to have a further 2 daughters whom the great grandmother welcomed with open arms and never refused to see. Parents would take other 2 to visit her and I was dumped at males side mother who lived the next street along until she passed in 1987. After that I was made to stand in the street outside the garden when they went to visit the great grandmother. 2 siblings would come out happy with arms full of gifts, clothes, sweets and money. Not so much as a creme egg at Easter from this woman. I was then forced to stand by her graveside and pretend to mourn her in 1991 when she finally died to "show face" as perfect little family.
Is it any wonder I'm NC?

clpsmum · 08/07/2023 18:51

@Blossomtoes no say in it and wouldn't try and put them off marriage in the slightest it's their decision to make

Longdarkcloud · 08/07/2023 19:08

@Diedre44 Deidre You were treated appallingly and I cannot understand your parents allowing it to happen when your situation resulted from their behaviour!
I date from a time when so called illegitimacy was considered shameful but thankfully have never felt that way and am so very happy that the people I associate with consider marriage to be virtually irrelevant, especially with regard to the status of children. The outdated thinking was for the benefit of the patriarchal society and had little relevance to the poorer classes with no estates or titles to pass on.
It is notable that the religions that place the most value on marriage before children are the most patriarchal.

CaffieJ · 08/07/2023 19:22

Don’t think it matters at all. Weirdly most of the married couples I did know with my kids are now divorced whilst the non married parents are still together 🤷‍♀️
((In general-from my area where my kids go to school))

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