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Who owns a pound left in supermarket trolley?

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Zippyzoppy · 03/07/2023 21:15

My son has a part-time job at weekends with one of the major supermarkets. One of his tasks is to round up any stray trolleys and put them back in the trolley park.

Apparently, from time to time ( maybe one/twice per day) people can’t be arsed to put their own trolleys back and so leave the £1 coins in the trolley. If this happens, he keeps the pound and puts the trolley back as required. When he first told me about this, I was quite pleased for him and thought it was a nice way for him to make a few extra quid.

However, when I mentioned this to a friend, she was aghast as she thought that he was cheating /stealing from his employer as the money is rightfully theirs.

Who is right?

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Lacucuracha · 04/07/2023 13:52

Lenor · 04/07/2023 13:40

I worked in a supermarket whilst in college. I think it’s stealing. When working he is representing the supermarket. He found the money whilst acting on their behalf. It is their trolley, their property and he was doing a job on their behalf that he was being paid to do. It would be different if he found it in his own time.

Wowsers. It’s not stealing, they haven’t told him what to do with the coins.

Weird that you begrudge a kid a quid.

Ughbushybushy · 04/07/2023 13:59

You need new friends!

Frabbits · 04/07/2023 14:01

Konfetka · 04/07/2023 13:00

Totally agree with your attitude. Britain introduced the concepts of honesty and integrity to the world and yet here we are, moral compass missing.

Slightly OT, but wtf? You think Britain invented the concepts of honesty and integrity?

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

LozengeShaped · 04/07/2023 14:02

When I used to take the DC swimming after school, DS (aged about 5) would lift up the filthy grating, and collecting £1 people had dropped when trying to lock the lockers... Apparently he always found two or three pounds. Yuck!

ActDottie · 04/07/2023 14:04

Finders keepers

niceandspicynight · 04/07/2023 14:06

Legally it is theft as it would come under "Theft by finding"

If you find cash on the street and don’t attempt to return it to its owner, you could actually be guilty of theft.

If you find goods that appear to be lost, then you can keep the goods as long as:

  • You did not find the goods dishonestly or while trespassing.
  • You take care of the goods – you will be liable for any damage caused to the goods while they are in your care.
  • You did not find the goods on your employer’s property.
  • The goods are lost, and not uncollected or abandoned, stolen or treasure.
  • You have taken reasonable steps to find the owner of the goods.
  • The goods were found not attached to anything on premises or land where the occupier does not exercise much control, for example, an air terminal lounge, public part of a shop, or recreation ground.

But for a £1 does any one really care.

WasJuliaRight · 04/07/2023 14:09

Honesty is the best policy.

All it takes is for a customer to get home and remember that they forgot their £1 and to call the store because the trolley collector was getting all the trolleys together as they were leaving.

If so many think he’s ok to keep it why are they suggesting that he keeps quiet and doesn’t tell anyone?

Would losing your job over £1 worth it?

Iknowthis1 · 04/07/2023 14:10

"Britain introduced the concepts of honesty and integrity to the world"

Britain didn't bring much honesty and integrity in pillaging my home country.

Open a history book.

mswales · 04/07/2023 14:12

I feel sorry for your friend. Imagine living your life with that kind of mindset. I can't imagine she has a life full of joy.

niceandspicynight · 04/07/2023 14:13

Iknowthis1 · 04/07/2023 14:10

"Britain introduced the concepts of honesty and integrity to the world"

Britain didn't bring much honesty and integrity in pillaging my home country.

Open a history book.

So what is your home country so we can verify this fact in detail?

Moominsarelife · 04/07/2023 14:15

I work for one of the big supermarkets and when management found out about a colleague pocketing pounds from trolleys he collected, they brought disciplinary action against him as it is classed as theft. The only reason he survived being sacked was because it was his first disciplinary ever and he claimed to have absolutely no idea that he couldn't keep them.

Silenciospritz · 04/07/2023 14:15

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sunglassesonthetable · 04/07/2023 14:19

I work for one of the big supermarkets and when management found out about a colleague pocketing pounds from trolleys he collected, they brought disciplinary action against him as it is classed as theft. The only reason he survived being sacked was because it was his first disciplinary ever and he claimed to have absolutely no idea that he couldn't keep them.

I wonder which fine upstanding supermarket that was?

I bet the only reason they didn't sack him was because the press would have had an absolute field day.

wutheringkites · 04/07/2023 14:20

Moominsarelife · 04/07/2023 14:15

I work for one of the big supermarkets and when management found out about a colleague pocketing pounds from trolleys he collected, they brought disciplinary action against him as it is classed as theft. The only reason he survived being sacked was because it was his first disciplinary ever and he claimed to have absolutely no idea that he couldn't keep them.

What was he meant to do with them?

ScatteredShattered · 04/07/2023 14:21

I’d expect the supermarket to have a policy about this, so he should ask. He doesn’t want to lose the job over a few extra pounds.

Frabbits · 04/07/2023 14:22

Moominsarelife · 04/07/2023 14:15

I work for one of the big supermarkets and when management found out about a colleague pocketing pounds from trolleys he collected, they brought disciplinary action against him as it is classed as theft. The only reason he survived being sacked was because it was his first disciplinary ever and he claimed to have absolutely no idea that he couldn't keep them.

Theft from whom though?

It's not the supermarket's money so any employee pocketing the money is not stealing from them.

The customer has made a decision not to return the trolley to reclaim their £1 so whoever finds that £1 is not stealing from them either.

Additionally, theft by finding requires proportional efforts to return any items found. A proportional effort for £1 is what? Yelling out "is this anyone's pound" and that's it, really.

Long story short, anyone arguing that this is theft is on quite shaky ground and really, who gives a fuck over the odd pound coin anyway?

niceandspicynight · 04/07/2023 14:22

sunglassesonthetable · 04/07/2023 14:19

I work for one of the big supermarkets and when management found out about a colleague pocketing pounds from trolleys he collected, they brought disciplinary action against him as it is classed as theft. The only reason he survived being sacked was because it was his first disciplinary ever and he claimed to have absolutely no idea that he couldn't keep them.

I wonder which fine upstanding supermarket that was?

I bet the only reason they didn't sack him was because the press would have had an absolute field day.

Why would they? If the customer had genuinely forgotten to take their money back and then came back later to request if it was found or handed in and it was discovered an employee kept it without handing it in to their employer it would bring the company into disrepute.

It may seem trivial only £1, but in the eyes of the law its still theft if reasonable effort was not made to find the owner.

niceandspicynight · 04/07/2023 14:24

Frabbits · 04/07/2023 14:22

Theft from whom though?

It's not the supermarket's money so any employee pocketing the money is not stealing from them.

The customer has made a decision not to return the trolley to reclaim their £1 so whoever finds that £1 is not stealing from them either.

Additionally, theft by finding requires proportional efforts to return any items found. A proportional effort for £1 is what? Yelling out "is this anyone's pound" and that's it, really.

Long story short, anyone arguing that this is theft is on quite shaky ground and really, who gives a fuck over the odd pound coin anyway?

Theft is theft be it £20 or £1

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/woman-nicole-bailey-kept-ps20-note-one-stop-burton-stoke-on-trent-criminal-record-staff-poketed-a7603576.html

Woman who picked up £20 she found on the floor gets criminal record

Ms Bailey pleaded guilty to theft

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/woman-nicole-bailey-kept-ps20-note-one-stop-burton-stoke-on-trent-criminal-record-staff-poketed-a7603576.html

Frabbits · 04/07/2023 14:25

niceandspicynight · 04/07/2023 14:22

Why would they? If the customer had genuinely forgotten to take their money back and then came back later to request if it was found or handed in and it was discovered an employee kept it without handing it in to their employer it would bring the company into disrepute.

It may seem trivial only £1, but in the eyes of the law its still theft if reasonable effort was not made to find the owner.

Nobody, but nobody, is going to get in trouble with the law for finding a pound coin. Different matter if it's a rucksack full of cash but if you find a pound on the street, good luck finding a policeman who cares.

Frabbits · 04/07/2023 14:25

It's not a lost £1, it's a coin deliberately left in a trolley.

So who is being stolen from?

sunglassesonthetable · 04/07/2023 14:26

*Why would they? If the customer had genuinely forgotten to take their money back and then came back later to request if it was found or handed in and it was discovered an employee kept it without handing it in to their employer it would bring the company into disrepute.

It may seem trivial only £1, but in the eyes of the law its still theft if reasonable effort was not made to find the owner.*

Could we all get a sense of perspective here.

YouJustDoYou · 04/07/2023 14:27

Your friend is a moron.

niceandspicynight · 04/07/2023 14:28

Frabbits · 04/07/2023 14:25

Nobody, but nobody, is going to get in trouble with the law for finding a pound coin. Different matter if it's a rucksack full of cash but if you find a pound on the street, good luck finding a policeman who cares.

Wrong.

https://metro.co.uk/2016/10/02/teenager-facing-trial-for-theft-of-50p-carton-of-milk-from-school-6165849/

Teenager facing trial for theft of 50p carton of milk from school

The teen is due to stand trial just days after his 15th birthday.

https://metro.co.uk/2016/10/02/teenager-facing-trial-for-theft-of-50p-carton-of-milk-from-school-6165849

VWFF · 04/07/2023 14:29

If someone came back to say that they had left their £1 in the trolley they had abandoned without returning to trolley bay they are going to look like a right twit.

sunglassesonthetable · 04/07/2023 14:29

Why would they? If the customer had genuinely forgotten to take their money back and then came back later to request if it was found or handed in and it was discovered an employee kept it without handing it in to their employer it would bring the company into disrepute.

Have a quick google if you want to see supermarket companies brought into disrepute.