Who owns a pound left in supermarket trolley?

[Zippyzoppy]

My son has a part-time job at weekends with one of the major supermarkets. One of his tasks is to round up any stray trolleys and put them back in the trolley park.

Apparently, from time to time ( maybe one/twice per day) people can’t be arsed to put their own trolleys back and so leave the £1 coins in the trolley. If this happens, he keeps the pound and puts the trolley back as required. When he first told me about this, I was quite pleased for him and thought it was a nice way for him to make a few extra quid.

However, when I mentioned this to a friend, she was aghast as she thought that he was cheating /stealing from his employer as the money is rightfully theirs.

Who is right?

It's dishonest and he would likely undergo a disciplinary. It will most likely be set out in his handbook.

How do you know its been deliberately left unless you make an effort to trace the owner. Look it up "Theft by finding" I'm not doing it for you educate yourself its not my job.

You can argue the law all you like the the law is the law. Even if you want to minimise it and put your own unfounded incorrect uneducated spin on it.

@niceandspicynight

The story you linked to happened in the US and I would put money (let's say £1) on the kid not being white and the police/ court wanting to make 'an example' of him.

So if the £1 belongs to the customer, surely it can't go in the charity box either.

What's the process? Complete a form for each one found, detailing time/location, maybe add a photo and keep them all stored in a safe for a year in case someone comes back?

Look if you want to argue what the law states and even stretch this to a race issue your talking the the wrong person, I have no time for uneducated people.

How do you know it’s been deliberately left unless you make an effort to trace the owner.

Because they abandoned the trolley. If they hadn’t deliberately left it they’d have returned the trolley and retrieved the coin. They chose not to do so. Let’s call it a tax on laziness.

You can argue the law all you like the the law is the law. Even if you want to minimise it and put your own unfounded incorrect uneducated spin on it.

Actual real life is a bit more subtle than chapter and verse.

As most folk know.

I think it was Michael McIntyre making a joke about when certain people get rich they don't bother to take their trolley back as its only £1 out of laziness.

It was a joke I know.

I can't see many people coming back for their £1 then get staff to go and search for the trolley to see if the £1 is still there.

*So if the £1 belongs to the customer, surely it can't go in the charity box either.

What's the process? Complete a form for each one found, detailing time/location, maybe add a photo and keep them all stored in a safe for a year in case someone comes back?*

Technically yes I suppose.

To comply with the Law. @niceandspicynight

Luckily lots of people have common sense.

So you have an issue with people with Alzheimer's, legitimate medical reasons for forgetfulness or just being in a rush and not noticing?

So should people with early signs of Alzheimer's, general early dementia etc., be taxed on lazy ness?

As others have said it's 2 difothongs

It's not theft. No crime is committed

It may well go against retailer's policy that says any money you find in store premises, when doing your job, is to be handed in -be that £1 in car park,£5 on the floor or change in the self service machine.

Having such a blanket policy is usual for big retailers, staff should not have money on them at all, to avoid any accusations of theft from tills (a quick google brings up tescos 2014 staff handbook which says about not having cash on you)

What do people think the staff member who finds change in the self service machine do? Pocket it? Or follow store process and hand it to the manager.

Look if you want to argue what the law states and even stretch this to a race issue your talking the the wrong person, I have no time for uneducated people.

But US law has no relevance here does it? And if you are suggesting that race plays no part in the US legal system then I suggest you pay a bit more attention.

*So you have an issue with people with Alzheimer's, legitimate medical reasons for forgetfulness or just being in a rush and not noticing?

So should people with early signs of Alzheimer's, general early dementia etc., be taxed on lazy ness?*

Bit of a swerve.

Do you always assume people who don't agree with you are uneducated?

Nice attempt at deflection. Hasn’t worked. My very close relationship with someone with dementia over a long period leads me to believe they’d never have managed to get the coin in there in the first place.

Funny not in my experience, so what about all other medical conditions that may equate to them leaving a coin and forgetting it?

Your blanket stamen of they obviously left it on purpose is incorrect just admit it and we can move along 😂

What do people think the staff member who finds change in the self service machine do? Pocket it? Or follow store process and hand it to the manager.

For me it's definitely the amount. £1.

And the fact I sometimes find the odd £1 or indeed forget my £1 in the trolley.

I wouldn't walk back to the shop if I had found a £1. Especially not after a big shop.

Larger sums of money I take your point.

That's not even remotely the same thing.

🙄

It’s not over £1 and your scenario is highly unlikely and I’m not sure that the supermarket would launch an investigation for £1?

What other medical conditions? No, I’m not going to deny reality because it would be convenient for you.

Ironic you lecturing about "the law" when it's blindingly obvious you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

All have memory loss, take your pick 👊

Alzheimer disease
Vascular dementia
Lewy body dementia
Fronto-temporal dementia
Progressive supranuclear palsy
Normal pressure hydrocephalus
Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease
Alcohol or use of prescription or illegal drugs
Brain infections such as Lyme disease, syphilis, or HIV/AIDS
Overuse of medicines, such as barbiturates or (hypnotics)
ECT (electroconvulsive therapy) (most often short-term memory loss)
Epilepsy that is not well controlled
Illness that results in the loss of, or damage to brain tissue or nerve cells, such as Parkinson disease, Huntington disease, or multiple sclerosis
Low levels of important nutrients or vitamins, such as low vitamin B1 or B12

😴shoooo

Alzheimer disease
Vascular dementia
Lewy body dementia
Fronto-temporal dementia
Progressive supranuclear palsy
Normal pressure hydrocephalus
Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease
Alcohol or use of prescription or illegal drugs
Brain infections such as Lyme disease, syphilis, or HIV/AIDS
Overuse of medicines, such as barbiturates or (hypnotics)
ECT (electroconvulsive therapy) (most often short-term memory loss)
Epilepsy that is not well controlled
Illness that results in the loss of, or damage to brain tissue or nerve cells, such as Parkinson disease, Huntington disease, or multiple sclerosis
Low levels of important nutrients or vitamins, such as low vitamin B1 or B12

FGS

This isn't a contest to see who can google the quickest!

I think you're losing the plot here.

I answered their question, you obviously don't like the answer, maybe forums are not for you.