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To wonder if this is the average cost of wrap around care at school?

101 replies

Whokilledrogerrabit · 03/07/2023 12:16

My son is about to start school in September. We've had his parent information session where I found out that breakfast club is £3.30 per day and after school provision (until 6pm, which is what I would need) is an additional £11.20 per day. So I'd be spending £14 per day on childcare for my eldest and my second would also have to be put into nursery (he's only 6 weeks so I'm currently on may leave) so that would be another £64 per day. How does anyone account to work with £80 per day cc costs?!

AIBU that the schools wrap around car is pricey, or is this the going rate?

OP posts:
froidIci · 03/07/2023 14:21

Whokilledrogerrabit · 03/07/2023 13:10

@moleeye, it's funny but my son starting school will actually be more expensive for us compared to his nursery costs! 🙈 With his free hours, we spend around £80 a month for nursery Monday-Wednesday 8-6pm. When he starts school it will be double that. I think that's why I questioned the cost. I know it's fairly average now though, thanks to everyone who took the time to respond - thanks all! 😊

This is IT. If there's one piece of advice I could give working parents it is this: "Do not assume that the end of eye watering nursery fees, and the start of "free" education (state schools) - is the end of eye watering costs". Becuase the end of nursery fees also usually means for working parents -

  1. Morning club costs
  2. After school club costs
  3. 3 half terms, 6 weeks of summer, 2 weeks of Easter childcare costs - depending on how much you can manage with annual leave
  4. Costs for school meals
  5. Costs for uniform/supplies/trips
  6. Costs for progressively more expensive toys/clothes as they grow older
  7. And often various activities and clubs they do/parents wish them to do - including life skills such as swimming, but not solely so.

I reckon, if you total up the costs of a school child, in primary school - the costs are not uncomparable to the costs of nursery.

Mummypigisalwaysright · 03/07/2023 14:22

Our breakfast club is 4.50 for an hour in the morning and £5 per hour after school. We pay 9.50 per day if my son does both. It's frustrating because I am a sahm but my youngest has special needs so goes to a school across town. He won't use the transport so I take him each day. My husband takes my oldest into school on his way to work.

Ilovemypyjamas2021 · 03/07/2023 14:23

We’re in the South East, £9.50 for breakfast club every morning & £19.50 for after school club per day…..

ToriesAgainstHumanity · 03/07/2023 14:24

£5 from 8am with breakfast included.

£7.50 until 5.30pm with a snack.

It adds up for two kids.

I'm in the North West.

Tawstrong · 03/07/2023 14:32

@Ilovemypyjamas2021 woah that’s expensive! Is it a state school or private?

So you pay £29 a day while others pay £2. I thought schools had to provide affordable wraparound care for families to support parents to work.

How is that disparity fair? Nurses, teachers etc are paid the same salary outside London. So why are we paying radically different wraparound care costs across the regions? There should be a national tariff.

Overrunwithlego · 03/07/2023 14:34

£4.75 from 8am to school start
£9.50 from school end to 5pm
£4.75 from 5-6pm
£19 total

Cambridgeshire

Ilovemypyjamas2021 · 03/07/2023 14:45

@Tawstrong I know it’s absolutely crazy 😩we’ve managed to reduce the days we need now (thanks to WFH) but it still adds up…not a private school just a primary but the wraparound provider has the ‘monopoly’ in a way for wraparound care for many schools in the area

Bunnycat101 · 03/07/2023 14:46

“I reckon, if you total up the costs of a school child, in primary school - the costs are not uncomparable to the costs of nursery.”

For me this is absolutely not the case but I suspect that if others have had something closer to a school pre-school with free hours it might be.

Even with ‘subsidised’ hours we spend around £1200 a month on nursery for my 4yo. I don’t need breakfast for my eldest but do need after school which is around £240 a month. 6 weeks of summer club is around £1200 so we’ll have a massive saving when my youngest starts school.

HomeSeck · 03/07/2023 14:50

£6.20 an hour here - Staffordshire. And no snacks/meal provided after school, you have to send in your own.

Plus fee increases twice a year!!

Although it's still WAY cheaper than nursery at least then you could look around to find one that matched your budget, it's a totally captive market with schools.

Nevermind31 · 03/07/2023 15:06

£20 afterschool Club. Breakfast club (no breakfast provided) £20 per week, regardless of how often you attend.

Ashleigh42 · 03/07/2023 15:33

We paid £10.50 a day for breakfast club and after school club till 5 for one child. In the south west.

JustMarriedBecca · 03/07/2023 15:47

Cheshire
£5.50 for 7.30-9am
£9 for 3.30-6pm

Mornings are more expensive because less people use it.

I personally thought it was good value.

We use tax free childcare so works out 20% less or whatever.

Boomboom22 · 03/07/2023 19:23

£2.50 breakfast and £7 after school to 5.30, used to be £8 to 6pm but guess no ta wanted to stay that long. It is run and staffed by the school so that's why it is cheap. It's brilliant. Also often run clubs for an hr after school for say £10 for 10 sessions which is then only £1. As a teacher I can leave shortly after the kids, get mine the mark later. South East but rural. I can be at the charing cross or Holborn office for my other job within 1hr 15mins of leaving home though so not bad.

Boomboom22 · 03/07/2023 19:24

Also it used to have say 25 spaces.now it's 15 in the pm but if you ask they take extra and an extra ta stays assume paid ad hoc.

SoAndSoSaidSo · 03/07/2023 19:27

For both breakfast club and after school club, we're £15 a day and holiday club is £25 a day.
Luckily still able to use childcare vouchers between 2 of us.

PeachesOnTheBeaches · 03/07/2023 19:34

Why is it that people think they should be able to get childcare on the cheap? You wouldn’t expect it in any other profession Confused

strawberryjeans · 03/07/2023 19:48

This is why I’m fairly sure we will stick at one. We haven’t TTC yet and I always dreamed of a big family but also wanna be able to afford food, holidays, days out. It’s crippling! I don’t know how working people have more than 2 comfortably unless you’re mega earners and even 2 must be hard

DrCoconut · 03/07/2023 19:50

Breakfast club is £1. There is no after school club but my childminder charged £5/hour. So £15 up until 6pm.

UndercoverCop · 03/07/2023 19:52

This is cheaper than where we are, wrap around is £6 breakfast club from 8, £10 from 7:30 and after school is £13.50 until 5:45 latest.
Nursery alone is £75 9-5 more if you need longer days and no stretched funding.

UndercoverCop · 03/07/2023 19:52

We've also stuck with one DC

UndercoverCop · 03/07/2023 19:54

Holiday club here for reception age up is £42 9-3:30 £53 for 9-5 and there's nothing any later than that

Caspianberg · 03/07/2023 19:54

I think for school age child, if you only need to be at the work school until 3.30pm, definitely consider at least 1-2 afternoons just him going until 4.30pm if it’s only £5. Then take home and you can finish up marking etc another hour whilst he watches tv and has A snack, before baby is collected from nursery.

Emeraldrings · 03/07/2023 19:56

Breakfast club is £2 plus whatever you have for breakfast at local school. After school club is £10 until 6.
Nursery is more expensive in our area at least £74 a day.

Careerdilemma · 03/07/2023 20:00

Wow your nursery is cheap. Is that current prices?

Boomboom22 · 03/07/2023 20:02

I use a nursery that's 45 a day and it's miles better than the ones that are 80. That's in Canterbury. It's always been much much better, but there are a lot of snobs. It's cheaper because it is run as a charity not a business although it is an actual nursery not a pre school.