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To wonder if this is the average cost of wrap around care at school?

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Whokilledrogerrabit · 03/07/2023 12:16

My son is about to start school in September. We've had his parent information session where I found out that breakfast club is £3.30 per day and after school provision (until 6pm, which is what I would need) is an additional £11.20 per day. So I'd be spending £14 per day on childcare for my eldest and my second would also have to be put into nursery (he's only 6 weeks so I'm currently on may leave) so that would be another £64 per day. How does anyone account to work with £80 per day cc costs?!

AIBU that the schools wrap around car is pricey, or is this the going rate?

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Giltedged · 03/07/2023 13:22

apart from the obvious cost of living situation

Um. Yes. That!

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Whokilledrogerrabit · 03/07/2023 13:24

@MrsPetty, obviously I was. 🙄 We both have good jobs and are secure financially. There are plenty of people that have 3/4/5 children with no job or prospect of getting one and those children's childcare is entirely funded by the taxpayer. What I find maddening is that. I have a job, contribute to society and have internet strangers questioning my decisions to have children based on my finances.

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catsandkid · 03/07/2023 13:37

Yep sounds about right price wise.

We pay £4 breakfast club from 7:30, and then £10.15 (or something like that) for after school club up to 530pm. So similar to your cost at £14.10. Then I also pay £78/day for my 2yr old full day at nursery too!

GCSister · 03/07/2023 13:40

Whokilledrogerrabit · 03/07/2023 13:06

@GCSister, I don't think I had a price in mind. At the school I work in, our breakfast club is £2.20, we do school clubs until 4pm but no wrap around care beyond that. I suppose that's why I'm asking, to guage if this is average cost. 🤷🏻‍♀️

It's definitely average....if not on the low side.
And IME kids LOVE after school club so it's worth every penny

Bunnycat101 · 03/07/2023 13:49

Your wraparound is really cheap compared to mine. Breakfast is £5 and 3-6 would be £15. your nursery is cheaper than mine as well- base for me is £80 a day. It is expensive but it will feel much better when your youngest is in school.

At a basic level though, there isn’t going to be a lot of profit in the levels you’ve mentioned. They probably have to pay someone from 2.45-6.15 to cover clean up time, they have to provide food and that’s before any costs like insurance, overheads etc, any money they have to pay to the school. It isn’t going to be cheap to provide childcare.

Heatherbell1978 · 03/07/2023 13:56

2 DC in a few days of breakfast club and ASC each week and I budget £250 a month for it after the tax free money off. For us we had 2 DC in full time nursery at one point so it's cheaper than those days! DS is now nearly 9 and getting to the point he can walk home himself (we both wfh) so it will gradually get cheaper.

sundaymorningbliss · 03/07/2023 13:56

It was 20p for the breakfast club and £11 for 3hrs of afterschool here

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 03/07/2023 13:57

Ours is £7.50 for breakfast club and ASC is £16.50 but they are excellent!!

Thankfully I don't need them anymore.

Youcancallmeirrelevant · 03/07/2023 13:59

That seems expensive. Ours is £3.50 for 1.5hr breakfast club and £4 gor 1.5hr after school club

Knittingflapjack · 03/07/2023 14:01

Our school have a free breakfast club and after school club (only open until 4.15 though) is £2 a session!

Chikoletta · 03/07/2023 14:03

Never realised ours was so expensive, we are in SE, 2 hours from London and pay £10 for breakfast club and £20! For ASC until 6pm.

MrsPetty · 03/07/2023 14:05

@Whokilledrogerrabit If you post it on Mumsnet I think you can reasonably expect it to be questioned. I would. Why would someone who has no job, or prospect of getting one require childcare? Surely they’d just look after their own DCs…

Mutabiliss · 03/07/2023 14:11

Ours is £5 for breakfast club and £10 for after-school. It's cheaper than nursery, so we'll be better off (though of course it's for far less time).

Toffeebythesea · 03/07/2023 14:12

That's really reasonable.
Ours is £7.50 for breakfast club and £14 after school

nutbrownhare15 · 03/07/2023 14:13

You can use tax free childcare for wrap around care as it is childcare

SparklingMarkling · 03/07/2023 14:14

Ours is 2 pounds for breakfast club and 5 pounds for after school with a snack.

Tawstrong · 03/07/2023 14:14

Your wraparound is really cheap!

State school in South England - breakfast club £6. After school club 6pm £15.50

Due a price rise next year.

Our prices are reasonable compared to other local schools.

Ivyhedera · 03/07/2023 14:15

£5 breakfast club £15.20 after school

Moveoverdarlin · 03/07/2023 14:15

That wrap-around school care is reasonable, £14 a day to look after your child, give them breakfast and a light tea is a good deal.

And yeah, nursery is eye-wateringly expensive. You can’t have just realised that.

nutbrownhare15 · 03/07/2023 14:15

£4.00 for breakfast club and £4.40 per 1.25 hours of after school childcare here, up to 5.45pm (south west)

Glittertwins · 03/07/2023 14:16

Pretty much what I was paying 5 years ago for after school club. Unmade use of the tax free vouchers as much as possible.

froidIci · 03/07/2023 14:17

Whokilledrogerrabit · 03/07/2023 12:16

My son is about to start school in September. We've had his parent information session where I found out that breakfast club is £3.30 per day and after school provision (until 6pm, which is what I would need) is an additional £11.20 per day. So I'd be spending £14 per day on childcare for my eldest and my second would also have to be put into nursery (he's only 6 weeks so I'm currently on may leave) so that would be another £64 per day. How does anyone account to work with £80 per day cc costs?!

AIBU that the schools wrap around car is pricey, or is this the going rate?

School in the south-east.

Morning club at infant school: £4.25 per session
After school club: £14 per session.

Nursery for toddler: £1400 for full time 5 days.

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Whokilledrogerrabit · 03/07/2023 14:17

@MrsPetty, I don't expect you to question my decision to have children actually - what an absurd thing to say! Quite frankly, the number of children I have chosen to have is none of your business and wasn't at all relevant to my original question. No where did I state (or even imply) that I cannot afford childcare so think it's so buzzare that you'd even insinuate this and bring it up 🤦🏻‍♀️ Honestly, petty by name, petty by nature, it seems.

And, my point is exactly that. You should direct your attention towards the people who don't work and go on to have many children who are care for by working peoples taxes. In any case, those parents are entitled to free childcare at 2 (despite being home to look after them) and working parents don't get this until 3, despite being the ones to put into the societal pot.

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red78hot · 03/07/2023 14:19

After school at the nearest school is £7.50, holiday club £22 full day, my current Daycare for 1 year old is £43.50 a day, I'm intending or hoping that once he starts school I will finish at 3 and only need to pay childcare for the morning and probably use school holiday club for well the holidays.

Tawstrong · 03/07/2023 14:21

What I’m getting from this thread is the inequality across the country. Seems really unfair to me, why do some get free breakfast clubs while families struggling with COL pressures have to pay in other areas?

Plenty of parents where I live are really being squeezed with high childcare costs and housing in the south.