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Is this the mother of all calling out - Katherine Birbalsingh

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DramaFatigue · 02/07/2023 08:06

Katherine Birbalsingh has done the mother of all calling out and I can't help but sit here with my jaw on the kitchen table in awe.

She has written a 4-page open letter to Sir Kerr Starmer calling out Jess Phillip's behaviour online. Whilst I don't always agree with KB's methods of the school she runs, I do think that Jess Phillips behaviour towards her is shocking and unbefitting of someone who could be running the country. JP should resign TBH.

https://news.sky.com/story/headteacher-katharine-birbalsingh-brands-labour-mp-jess-phillips-social-media-posts-racist-and-bullying-12913139

Headteacher Katharine Birbalsingh brands Labour MP Jess Phillips' social media posts 'racist and bullying'

Katharine Birbalsingh addressed the open letter to Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer. Labour has not commented on the matter and Sky News has contacted Ms Phillips for her response.

https://news.sky.com/story/headteacher-katharine-birbalsingh-brands-labour-mp-jess-phillips-social-media-posts-racist-and-bullying-12913139

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Abbimae · 02/07/2023 19:52

KBS can talk she is a vile vitreous human. She thinks her word is gospel

cakeorwine · 02/07/2023 20:02

She is talking about the National Conservatism conference and is claiming that people "on the Left" are saying that she shouldn't have attended and the reason that she shouldn't have attended is that she is black.

She is also claiming that the BBC are saying she shouldn't have attended - based on this article.

Jess Phillips is not racist, Labour's Bridget Phillipson says after online row - BBC News

"Ms Birbalsingh - dubbed Britain's strictest head teacher - attracted controversy during her time as the chair of the Social Mobility Commission between November 2021 and January 2023.
She came under fire last April for saying girls are less likely to choose physics A-level because it involves "hard maths" - later admitting her remarks had been "clunky".
She resigned as the government's top social mobility adviser in January saying that she was doing "more harm than good" in the role.
More recently, Ms Birbalsingh - who describes herself as a "floating voter" - spoke at the National Conservatism conference."

The conference:

"The National Conservatism Conference brings together public figures, journalists, scholars, and students who understand that the past and future of conservatism are inextricably tied to the idea of the nation, to the principle of national independence, and to the revival of the unique national traditions that alone have the power to bind a people together and bring about their flourishing.
We see national conservatism as the best path forward for a democratic world confronted by a rising China abroad and a powerful new Marxism at home. We see the rich tradition of national conservative thought as an intellectually serious alternative to the excesses of purist libertarianism, and in stark opposition to political theories grounded in race.
The United Kingdom is forging its own independent path outside the European Union. National Conservatism offers a guide which honours Britain’s history, seizes the opportunities of the moment and fits us for the future."

Confirmed Speakers - National Conservatism Conference, UK 2023

Jess Phillips

Jess Phillips is not racist, Labour's Bridget Phillipson says after online row

A senior headteacher accused Ms Phillips of racism and bullying following a Twitter row.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66081242

Quiverer · 02/07/2023 20:27

nopuppiesallowed · 02/07/2023 18:19

Reading the Ofsted report is interesting - especially for those questioning Michaela's attitude to SEN pupils...'Leaders and teachers ensure that outcomes for eligible pupils, including disadvantaged pupils and those who have special educational needs and / or disabilities, are outstanding.' Also 'Support tailored to pupils' needs ensure that pupils who struggle with Reading, writing and mathematics when they join the school, catch up quickly'. (So not all pupils joining the school are already unqualified geniuses...)
In fact, every aspect of Michaela was rated outstanding.

What Ofsted doesn't have sight of, of course, is the number of children with SEN and EHCPs they manage to deflect or manage out.

Quiverer · 02/07/2023 20:30

EffortlessDesmond · 02/07/2023 19:04

You may have been miserable at school @onegroupcard, but your academic attainment probably underpins your ability to post a literate comment here. I am not really sure that schools should be expected to fill in for every parental or family deficit.

Are you seriously suggesting that being miserable at school is due to parental or family deficit? You don't think that it could have anything to do with school deficit for which the school certainly carries responsibility?

Sunnyespania · 02/07/2023 20:33

I’m not a mad Jess Philips fan - I find her quite grating and coarse - but she’s worth a billion of the truly vile Ms Birbalsingh so this complaint can get in the sea.

Birbalsingh is one of those people with truly abhorrent views (think Priti Patel, Suella Braverman) who the Daily telegraph and daily mail like to make out are mainstream and acceptable. They are neither. We’re better than that

nopuppiesallowed · 02/07/2023 20:38

@Quiverer Do you have those figures? If so, that would save an awful lot of worries.....

Exasperatednow · 02/07/2023 20:39

I'd be pretty cheesed off if I was Birbalsingh's governors.

DojaPhat · 02/07/2023 21:31

Jess Phillips' treatment of minority women is definitely something that needs looking into, preferably with whatever process they have for sacking MPs but that headteacher espouses very damaging and dangerous rhetoric particularly where minority children are concerned. 6 of one... half a dozen...

Iwasafool · 02/07/2023 21:41

DojaPhat · 02/07/2023 21:31

Jess Phillips' treatment of minority women is definitely something that needs looking into, preferably with whatever process they have for sacking MPs but that headteacher espouses very damaging and dangerous rhetoric particularly where minority children are concerned. 6 of one... half a dozen...

How has Jess Phillips treated minority women?

Blossomtoes · 02/07/2023 21:50

Iwasafool · 02/07/2023 21:41

How has Jess Phillips treated minority women?

I imagine it’s about the untrue story about her bullying Diane Abbott. Abbott herself has confirmed that it never happened.

Teentaxidriver · 02/07/2023 21:56

JP is a righteous bully. KS is a wet blanket.

Violetparis · 02/07/2023 21:58

I don't think JP is a racist and I don't think KBS supports domestic violence. I think they both behave in a ridiculous and cringey way on Twitter.

Exasperatednow · 02/07/2023 22:01

DojaPhat · 02/07/2023 21:31

Jess Phillips' treatment of minority women is definitely something that needs looking into, preferably with whatever process they have for sacking MPs but that headteacher espouses very damaging and dangerous rhetoric particularly where minority children are concerned. 6 of one... half a dozen...

What treatment specifically?

Boomboom22 · 02/07/2023 22:01

Many sen pupils eg with asd or adhd do thrive at her school due to the very very consistent routines, expectations and teaching styles. Others would not, if they stim a lot or dislike eye contact or really struggle to regulate I don't think quiet corridors would work for some children.
She is not super mean though, that's unfair, she is trying to help and the kids know why she has her rules and buy into it. It's not about punishment it is about building value consensus and a school culture.
I wouldn't send my kids there but personal development through oratory skills etc seems good so I doubt they stifle debate. You can't achieve 9s or a stars with rite learning, you need to understand logical chains and apply knowledge very well to unseen scenarios to achieve those grades so I think that criticism shows a lack of understanding.
It is very true that black people are judged harshly if they are not left wing which is unfair. Another labour mp called a tory mp a coconut which means white on the inside because of their politics and she wasn't sacked I don't think which shows the Labour Party expect support from minorities just because.

DojaPhat · 02/07/2023 22:10

Exasperatednow · 02/07/2023 22:01

What treatment specifically?

Google is free and available. The most terrifying thing about JP is that women like her are a lot more damaging than the card carrying EDF types.

cakeorwine · 02/07/2023 22:17

It looks like she has unblocked Alex Sturdy to contradict his explanation.

He mentioned the time of the tweets - but she claims they were the times of the screenshots.

Except people are saying they were the actual time of the tweets - which would mean she has made another mistake in that letter - as the time of the tweets is important to the timing of the pile on.

She has been very busy on Twitter today

minou123 · 02/07/2023 22:21

DojaPhat · 02/07/2023 22:10

Google is free and available. The most terrifying thing about JP is that women like her are a lot more damaging than the card carrying EDF types.

Who are "card carrying EDF types"?

wonderstuff · 02/07/2023 22:22

The tweet with Ike in it was up for a long time and it wasn't just Jess Phillips that commented, lots of edutwitter commentators were surprised/shocked, it was a really strange thing for KB to have put up and I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually her intention. I have no idea how she is able to spend so much time on twitter and run a school tbh, she must have a great leadership team around her.

JP has responsibility for DV policy and KB put up a picture of Ike and Tina and captioned it 'remembering the good times' or something similar, which was a bizarre thing to do. JP completely justified in calling her out. I think KB deliberately put it up to goad a lot of reaction, why else would she?

HRTQueen · 02/07/2023 22:23

Diane Abbott denied Jess Phillips version of events but she wasn’t claiming that Jess Phillips was innocent of bullying. Jess Phillips claimed they had a heated debate and she told Diane Abbott to fuck off again playing to a crowd and a bit of sel publicity 🙄

Diane Abbott said she didn’t understand why Jess Phillips would make such a statement

and neither do I unless she felt other needed to know she put Diane Abbott in her place

cakeorwine · 02/07/2023 22:23

Apparently it's pedantic to bring up errors in her letter and to tell her that some of her "facts" in her evidence are wrong.

gotthearse · 02/07/2023 22:36

DramaFatigue · 02/07/2023 08:06

Katherine Birbalsingh has done the mother of all calling out and I can't help but sit here with my jaw on the kitchen table in awe.

She has written a 4-page open letter to Sir Kerr Starmer calling out Jess Phillip's behaviour online. Whilst I don't always agree with KB's methods of the school she runs, I do think that Jess Phillips behaviour towards her is shocking and unbefitting of someone who could be running the country. JP should resign TBH.

https://news.sky.com/story/headteacher-katharine-birbalsingh-brands-labour-mp-jess-phillips-social-media-posts-racist-and-bullying-12913139

twitter.com/sturdyAlex/status/1675448863958913025?t=wGQ3JXcux7Y-tQ4N6v3l-w&s=19

Somewhat different POV here

RafaistheKingofClay · 02/07/2023 23:19

cakeorwine · 02/07/2023 22:23

Apparently it's pedantic to bring up errors in her letter and to tell her that some of her "facts" in her evidence are wrong.

Presumably in the same way it was pedantic to point out that the quote on the school wall wasn’t by Churchill.

Againstmachine · 03/07/2023 06:45

minou123 · 02/07/2023 22:21

Who are "card carrying EDF types"?

Salespeople trying to get you switch to EDF energy😉

minou123 · 03/07/2023 07:05

Againstmachine · 03/07/2023 06:45

Salespeople trying to get you switch to EDF energy😉

😁

Just wanted to check.
I thought maybe it was a new white supremacy group.
You know, men booted out of the English Defence League, who created thier own group - English Defenxe Fuckups - or something.

cakeorwine · 03/07/2023 07:50

Oh dear.

"These people just lie and lie"? Really - oh - and the screenshots show the time of the tweet. Being screenshots.

Does she understand that the internet remembers and lies can easily be checked?

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