Is this the mother of all calling out - Katherine Birbalsingh

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Katherine Birbalsingh has done the mother of all calling out and I can't help but sit here with my jaw on the kitchen table in awe.

She has written a 4-page open letter to Sir Kerr Starmer calling out Jess Phillip's behaviour online. Whilst I don't always agree with KB's methods of the school she runs, I do think that Jess Phillips behaviour towards her is shocking and unbefitting of someone who could be running the country. JP should resign TBH.

https://news.sky.com/story/headteacher-katharine-birbalsingh-brands-labour-mp-jess-phillips-social-media-posts-racist-and-bullying-12913139

The trouble is that the letter was underpinned by falsehoods about the tweet, notably the allegation that it was JP who start the pile-one when manifestly it wasn't; to say nothing of the Aslan nonsense. So it's dubious whether you can really say the tweet prompted the letter.

The amount of interviews she has done about this is ridiculous

She is such an attention seeker.

Yeah speaking as someone originally from Birmingham I would say Phillips takes on a rather cartoonish persona for how she thinks someone from a disadvantaged background in Birmingham would act. I really can't stand her.

Kiwano
Yet again, you demonstrate that you can't give a straight answer, you can only try to deflect by referring to various irrelevant other cases involving other people.

What a hypocrite you are! I was quite happy posting about Jess Phillips and Katharine Birbalsingh when you deflected with a post (addressed to me) about Boris Johnson and Chris Pincher!

As for my observations being irrelevant - they are not irrelevant to your posts at all. I see that both Scottish Labour and the victim in the Ian Blackford/Patrick Grady case have spotted similarities with Johnson/Pincher (the revelations unfolded within the same few weeks (June/July 2022) and Grady was a former Chief Whip):

Ian Blackford should resign after the SNP sex-pest scandal says Scottish Labour, just like Boris Johnson after the Chris Pincher affair that sparked record resignations from the cabinet.
"... And why did Nicola Sturgeon do nothing when she knew about these allegations for years?"
Mr Grady's victim said even the Conservatives are doing a better job at protecting staff
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/ian-blackford-told-resign-over-27419136

And one of Chris Pincher's victims goes much, much further than me;

'Bring back Boris!' Theresa May should pay for the groping Deputy Chief Whip scandal not Johnson... says ALEX STORY, the victim who helped expose it.
It is Theresa May’s atrocious judgment that lies at the heart of this mess and, if there was any justice, it would be her reputation and not Boris’s that lies in ruins.
‘The ousting of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister by a minority of MPs is deeply anti-democratic,’ he said. ‘I am ashamed that this can happen in Britain, the birthplace of modern democracy.’

Mrs May appointed him, forgave him, reappointed him and promoted him.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11044363/Bring-Boris-Theresa-pay-Chris-Pincher-scandal-says-victim-groping-MP.html

As for my observations on Jess Phillips and Keir Starmer - both of them are mentioned in the op (or rather Kerr Starmer is - unlike Boris Johnson and Chris Pincher).

Jess Phillips should be speaking up about Starmer's poor record with recent sexual misconduct complaints and not bullying Katharine Birbalsingh:

How can Keir Starmer claim to have a 'zero tolerance' stance on sexual harassment, if a senior Labour aide (advising a Labour frontbencher) was allowed to continue working after a sexual harassment complaint was upheld against him? Why was the senior aide issued with a 'final warning' if Starmer has a 'zero tolerance' stance? A 'final warning' is a second chance;
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12071975/Pressure-piles-Keir-Starmer-sack-senior-Labour-aide-groped-woman-20s.html

Why wasn't Labour MP Christian Matheson suspended by Starmer pending investigation?
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-mp-christian-matheson-chester-suspended-serious-sexual-misconduct-b1034353.html

Further examples in my links above ( Labour MP Geraint Davies and the Labour Shadow Minister) - and no criticism of Starmer from Jess Phillips.

That's a very big post that must have taken you a long time and most people are going to ignore it as this is about KB and JP. @Clavinova

I see KB is still doing "interviews" on GB News recently.

I wonder if she is going to submit any kind of complaint that will be taken apart bit by bit

cakeorwine
That's a very big post that must have taken you a long time

Not really - I see you were posting after midnight and then again at breakfast.

I know - but my posts are relevant to the OP.
Your post was not that relevant. But long and full of links.

cakeorwine
Your post was not that relevant. But long and full of links

Don't read it then - it was addressed to Kiwano.

cakeorwine
I wonder if she is going to submit any kind of complaint

She has complained to Keir Starmer - I wonder if he will reply.

Maybe he has.
In private.
And maybe pointing out all the inaccuracies in her letter.

It's been interesting hearing the recent talk about libel and slander in the press at the moment. KB is still making allegations. I wonder if JP will take any action?

I simply pointed out an example of something that suggested your judgment was unreliable. That was not deflection. Your response has been to post absolutely nothing that justifies your opinion but, yet again, to try to deflect. Quite why you haven't realised that everyone sees through this tactic, goodness only knows.

You might like to have a look at the MN rules about personal attacks, also.

Kiwano
You might like to have a look at the MN rules about personal attacks, also

What a cheek! Yet again!

I was quite happy posting about Jess Phillips and Katharine Birbalsingh when you jumped on the thread with personal attacks directed towards me:

But then, you're the person who thinks...
I'm not sure your perceptions are reliable.
No amount of your characteristic attempts at deflection...

You quoted me from a totally unrelated thread and you've badgered me about Boris Johnson and Chris Pincher (with the same set formula) on at least three different threads now (you've had two different usernames). And now you are threatening me with MN rules. Some people might view your posting as bullying and harassment.

Your response has been to post absolutely nothing that justifies your opinion

My opinion (as you already know) is that Boris Johnson displayed poor judgment in appointing Chris Pincher. I don't see why I have to keep justifying that opinion to you on multiple threads.

I simply pointed out an example of something that suggested your judgment was unreliable. That was not deflection.

Perhaps you would like to post something about Jess Phillips and Katharine Birbalsingh then - because as far as I can see, you have posted reams about me, Boris Johnson and Chris Pincher on this thread, but absolutely nothing on Jess Phillips and Katharine Birbalsingh.

My opinion (as you already know) is that Boris Johnson displayed poor judgment in appointing Chris Pincher.

Precisely the point I made, so I'm really not sure what all these long diatribes are about.

As for Birbalsingh, I agree with the vast majority on this thread. Her attack on Phillips was unfounded and I'm glad to see that it has backfired somewhat spectacularly. The woman is not fit to run a school.

Interesting artlcle about Michaela's curriculum and their last Ofsted report - https://www.educationuncovered.co.uk/news/165136/ofsted-under-fire-for-praising-highprofile-free-schools-curriculum-as-broad-without-mentioning-absence-of-computing-single-sciences-and-design-and-technology.thtml

Summary from the article:

Michaela Community School, in Brent in North London, appears to be offering no computing/information technology at all as part of its normal daily lessons, despite the subject being on the national curriculum at key stages three and four.

Design and technology also does not appear on the school’s list of subjects on its website, despite being on the national curriculum at key stage three, while music is only listed as being taught until year eight. In addition, drama is not listed as being taught; only a single modern language was on offer for most pupils in terms of GCSE qualifications last year; and vocational qualifications were not listed among those taken in 2022.

The school also appears to have been the only mainstream secondary in its local authority last year which did not have a single student taking single science GCESs, which are usually seen as the most detailed foundation for science A-levels, with all Michaela pupils taking double science GCSE instead. Most of its students appeared to have chosen from only 11 GCSEs last year-the smallest range of qualifications among Brent’s secondary schools.
Despite all this, Ofsted, which visited the school in May to check if its previous “outstanding” rating should still be in place, stated in its report that Michaela’s curriculum was “broad and exceptionally rich”.

Remarkably, given that the inspectorate has been stressing the importance of the curriculum in recent years and emphasises it in reports, there was no mention at all of the various subject absences as described above, with parents who might read the report not told that the school, for example, appears not to be teaching computing or design and technology, at least during normal lesson time.

Kiwano
Precisely the point I made

No it wasn't!
You quite clearly posted that 'poor judgment' was not an acceptable answer for you;

Yet, for you, it was just "unwise" and "an error of judgment" or "poor judgment".

I'm really not sure what all these long diatribes are about

You need to check your own 'diatribes'.

As for Birbalsingh, I agree with the vast majority on this thread

Personally, I don't think 62% really qualifies as a 'vast' majority.

Given Starmer's background as an experienced lawyer, I suspect his reply is forensic and sharp, and KB definitely won't want to publish it.

I made the point that the reliability of your assessment of JP's communications had to be judged in the light of your mischaracterisation of serious misconduct in another context. You just confirmed that mischaracterisation.

I know what my own diatribes are about, thanks.

I said I agreed with the majority on the thread, not those who have clicked on voting buttons.