To wonder if Labour actually will be any better?

[Baabaagreysheep]

I think like most people I am keen to see the back of the current bunch, but I am not confident that anything will massively change for the better. Maybe that’s a bit pessimistic, but I feel that while some things will improve some will get worse - and some sort of at the same time, so I’m expecting my salary to go up but also my workload to go up!

Thinking back to when Labour were last in power it was another world, really. Interested in views.

You are both right

"2003-2007
Interest rates were raised significantly in this period as an attempt to reign in what was perceived to be an over-inflating economy. Rates rose from 3.5 per cent in July 2003 to 5.75 per cent in July 2007.
2007-2017
Under the impact of the global financial crisis, the base interest rate fell to its lowest level for 300 years. Starting at 5.75 per cent in July 2007, rates had fallen to 0.5 per cent by March 2009, with a further fall to 0.25 per cent in August 2016. There was a very slight rise back to 0.5 per cent in November 2017."

On the Bank of England website

OK 😂

This

It doesn't seem a lot now but it hit hard then we worried it would keep going up and up like in the 80s

You said you just checked, it’s very churlish not to offer a link to back that up.

It took me a few minutes to sort it out and I'm not going to make something up that didn't happen😕

😂

And I've posted it

Fortunately that didn't happen as the Torys were voted out in 1997.

The 90s was a different global climate. The 70s is more comparable and Labour struggled anyway as you’d expect.

Winter of discontent and then Thatcher in power as a result

That’s a cop out. The foundations of our society rest on a democratically elected government. Declaring ‘they’re all shit’ is giving up on the system we have with no regard for anything that could replace it. It’s abdicating any responsibility for the benefits you personally get from the society you are part of.

Then why post a snippy reply? It’s a forum, theres no compulsion to post immediately.

Absolutely agree with this.

It was the early 90s when it went up and up - it reached 17% on Black Wednesday. Can you remember who was in power then? I’ll give you a clue - it wasn’t Labour.

Same. That time has passed. Labour in Wales is a more current indication

Great post

Starmer is essentially New Labour so not sure why you'd not vote for his party. His policies and approach are very centrist.

Anyway, if you won't vote Labour, who are you voting for?
If you are using Labour's current position as a fig leaf to justify your plan to vote conservative, then you need to explain why you think this current Cabinet will be better than anyone else. Otherwise it's a bit disingenuous. There are plenty of other parties available.

Tony Blair doesn’t think women can have a penis.

All of that is why people are politically homeless. The real rich have no idea what it’s like to struggle. Likewise at the other end. The benefits package does add up to a tidy sum in this country when you add everything in. It’s the people in the middle, literally paying for it all, who barely can’t anymore. No one wants to know. Which is why many will say Labour are just as shit.

@Terryer market crash? Like that one Liz Truss the Tory PM caused quite recently? That kind of crash? Or is it a different kind of crash if caused by one of Bozo's mates? How's your mortgage doing?