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People complaining about their 'bonus'

275 replies

extramoney · 26/06/2023 06:09

Reading a thread about the NHS bonus and everyone unhappy that it's not as much as they expected because of deductions

Made me think that actually people are a bit entitled. we all get taxed on bonus, we should just be grateful we've had some extra.

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Blanketpolicy · 28/06/2023 00:00

Efficaciou5 · 27/06/2023 23:32

You're absolutely right, yet here we have public sector employees suggesting that their bonus shouldn't be taxed so that they can take home even more of other peoples money !

Doesn't your salary comes from "other peoples money" too. Mine comes from people who buy vodka and whisky!

Livelovebehappy · 28/06/2023 00:15

Atethehalloweenchocs · 27/06/2023 21:57

Made me think that actually people are a bit entitled. we all get taxed on bonus, we should just be grateful we've had some extra.

No, you are not reasonable at all. The bonus was deliberately sold as being more than it ended up being. Last time I got a pay rise my pension contribution was put up and I ended up with less take home pay. So it is not entitled at all to be reflecting on how shit it is.

So you didn’t know your bonus would be taxed? Really?

noodlebugz · 28/06/2023 06:57

Efficaciou5 · 27/06/2023 22:26

I wonder how the public sector workers (including NHS) complaining on here about losing a few hundred pounds of their £1.5-2K bonus in tax would feel about taking home only about half of their £34.5K bonus because the remainder is taken off them to fund the public sector workers payrolls grossly over staffed and entitled cotton wool and marshmallows social club ?

Boo hoo. I’m sorry that you won’t have enough to spend on your foie gras this year.
Some of my colleagues are worried about eating - there’s a tiny food bank on our ward.
Let’s hope you never need treatment from the marshmallow club then. FYI there are some major procedures / dialysis etc that you can’t really get privately in the UK. Let’s hope you don’t encounter the marshmallow club then eh?
Half my husbands bonuses go in tax, it’s a bit annoying but I just remind him to look at the take home column of his salary. And to be fair I’ve done the same with my nhs pay this month.

Seymour5 · 28/06/2023 07:53

Efficaciou5 · 27/06/2023 23:04

If the number of vacancies increased to around half a million, I'd be satisfied that at least they'd be heading in the right direction to establishing some kind of efficiency in terms of Human Resources.

Do you really expect that they'd be delighted to lose a five figure sum from what they'd naively consider to be their money to spend freely, if they're so quick to complain about paying a few hundred quid in tax which contributes to their own self-loathing ?

If the reductions in the public sector were as the result of a properly managed restructure, fine. The whole of sector could certainly streamline at some levels. However, if as in the NHS, the vacancies are caused by conditions (have you seen how some of the public behave?), low pay in some roles, and too few staff, then even more clinical staff deciding to walk could be disastrous.

veryfluffyfluff · 28/06/2023 07:55

noodlebugz · 28/06/2023 06:57

Boo hoo. I’m sorry that you won’t have enough to spend on your foie gras this year.
Some of my colleagues are worried about eating - there’s a tiny food bank on our ward.
Let’s hope you never need treatment from the marshmallow club then. FYI there are some major procedures / dialysis etc that you can’t really get privately in the UK. Let’s hope you don’t encounter the marshmallow club then eh?
Half my husbands bonuses go in tax, it’s a bit annoying but I just remind him to look at the take home column of his salary. And to be fair I’ve done the same with my nhs pay this month.

No one eats foie gras any more surely? Its so cruel.

noodlebugz · 28/06/2023 08:05

@veryfluffyfluff I hope not. At the time I couldn’t think of anything else post and ridiculous off the top of my head! Whatever they say hunting is still a thing so who knows?

noodlebugz · 28/06/2023 08:05

*posh

LovelyLisa2 · 28/06/2023 08:38

Totally not unreasonable. It’s not rocket science to realise you will lose about 30% to tax, pension and NI. It’s extra income.

Beastieboys · 28/06/2023 09:14

It's NOT a bonus. It's back pay

DanceMonster · 28/06/2023 09:29

Beastieboys · 28/06/2023 09:14

It's NOT a bonus. It's back pay

And therefore is subject to tax and NI.

Beastieboys · 28/06/2023 09:32

Well performance related pay in the nhs wouldn't work would it ?
Can't rely on that when there's always a permanently clogged up part in the process !

Gingernaut · 28/06/2023 17:42

Many managers are denied pay point increments if their teams aren't up to date with training or who have received too many upheld complaints

Feraldogmum · 29/06/2023 21:36

Welcome to the real world folks, your pay goes up, you get a bonus, guess what it’s taxed like everyone else .Just wait until you lose your personal allowance and get taxed 62% on over 20k and have arseholes like Corbyn call you “tight fisted “when you work a 16 hour day without overtime,shift allowance or a bloody gold plated pension and your phone goes off at all hours of the day. Incidentally my late father was an nhs dr, so I’m not biased against nhs staff but know they often live outside the real world, no worry of redundancy, no worrying if the clowns in government will lose your pension, job for life unless you kill someone ,and then they just move you around.

ellyeth · 30/06/2023 00:00

Their pay is disgusting and the bonus is an insult.

I wonder how the consultants will fare with their industrial action. Nurses lost a lot of money they could ill afford but it won't be such an issue on consultants' salaries.

Katypp · 30/06/2023 19:27

I'm not sure a pay range of £28-50k (bands 5-7) could be described as 'disgusting' really. it's only a bit lower than junior doctors scale (£29-51k) but strangely the doctors don't seem to pull on the heartstrings like nurses apparently do.
Did you bother to look up the pay before you commented @ellyeth or did you just jump on the bandwagon? I can't imagine any other graduate profession with a starting rate of £28+ getting anywhere near such a sympathetic hearing.

Xenia · 30/06/2023 20:15

Today's news is double the number of doctors and I think nurses to be trained which may help particularly if we can force them to stay in the NHS for say 15 years full time rather than train them and let them escape to other things or other countries.

"Presumably you have no need to access the NHS then and have no interest in whether healthcare in this country is available?" I feel the luckiest erson in England actually as I have only needed a doctor twice in about 15 years - I call them my £100,000 7 minute appointments. I woudl rather be allowed to opt out of the NHS and not pay 20% of my annual tax bill (the part that goes to the NHS) as I work 20% of the year simply to pay for an NHS I don't use and on top of that 30% of the year to pay rest of income tax and then we move on to working to pay all the indirect taxes we all pay including in my case thousands on insurance premium tax alone. tax tax tax - huge state, bloated awful big brother state, high spending high tax. The highest tax burden in 70 years.

Tiredalwaystired · 30/06/2023 20:35

i pay income tax towards a fire service I dont use. And an ambulance service I’ve never used.

Im bloody glad I’ve never used them but I’m more than happy that my tax money is there to keep them going just in case, and also for those that do need them.

BaconChops · 15/07/2023 12:26

3BSHKATS · 27/06/2023 18:42

I think you need to work in the private sector to have any idea how valuable job security years to a person. I deal with private sector employees that have literally been with a company for one year and 51 weeks and been fired out of the blue for no other reason than they’ve been able to secure the services of another person for 10 grand cheaper. And that’s it bang gone no discussion, no reason required

Well if job security is more important than pay, maybe they should consider the civil service?!

DojaPhat · 15/07/2023 12:44

Threads like this are always a good reminder about why we are where we are and why the Tories absolutely love us!!!

Efficaciou5 · 16/07/2023 20:49

DojaPhat · 15/07/2023 12:44

Threads like this are always a good reminder about why we are where we are and why the Tories absolutely love us!!!

I'd say that the attitudes demonstrated by the majority of the posters who've replied here are perfect examples of why you are where you are.

Oh, and we don't love you !

Katypp · 18/07/2023 09:38

BaconChops · 15/07/2023 12:26

Well if job security is more important than pay, maybe they should consider the civil service?!

And if money is so important, why not join the private sector? Either way, it's a lazy and silly response that's trotted out time and time again on threads like this

BaconChops · 18/07/2023 10:10

Katypp · 18/07/2023 09:38

And if money is so important, why not join the private sector? Either way, it's a lazy and silly response that's trotted out time and time again on threads like this

😂

Katypp · 18/07/2023 10:13

BaconChops · 18/07/2023 10:10

😂

If that's your best response it kind of proves my point I think

BaconChops · 18/07/2023 13:17

Katypp · 18/07/2023 10:13

If that's your best response it kind of proves my point I think

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